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Hey Chris
Not sure if you remember me - I spoke to you briefly about potentially borrowing the lighting rig for our school
party April 4th. I sent an email to gchouse, but didn't hear back as of yet. Any word on whether it might be
possible?
Kind regards
Luke
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Luke E. Smith
School of Architecture
Princeton University
NJ 08544
Cell: 609-751-6244
Dear GCHC,
However, I wasn't sure whether the dBar needed the lights on Thursday
April 2, which would prevent our lending fixtures before Friday April
3. The GCHC, and especially Christian Bienia who has greatest
familiarity with the lights, will be busy April 3--4 preparing for the
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Formal April 4.
Thanks,
David Liao
Chair
Graduate College House Committee
===PROPOSED LETTER===
I am sorry for the late response. The GCHC has been discussing how
best to make the lights available for student events. We are happy to
tell you that we chose not to charge rental fees from borrowing users.
The GCHC and GSG contributed funds in 2008 to purchase this lighting
system. The GCHC is testing a program to lend the lights. We are
excited about the opportunity to share these lights with events open
to graduate students in general and making these lights available to
events in future years. If you are interested in borrowing the
lights, please fill in the form below.
Christian Bienia
Senior Special Events Chair
Graduate College House Committee
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===[Exchanges, payments, and duties]===
[EQUIPMENT]: List the model names, model numbers, and serial numbers
of all equipment to be lent:
* Item 1
* Item 2
*...
[NO RENTAL FEE]: The GCHC charges *no* rental fee for the light fixtures.
[USER MUST SUBMIT DAMAGE DEPOSIT]: The user must submit to the
Special Events Chair a damage deposit check as the Special Events
chair hands over the lights. The Special Events chair shall
immediately destroy or return the check if the user returns the lights
in a condition to the satisfaction of the Special Events Chair. The
user agrees to return borrowed lights by the Return date. The user
agrees that the Special Events Chair can determine that any lights
returned are not in satisfactory condition and thus Lost.
[USER MUST REMEDY DAMAGED AND LOST EQUIPMENT]: The user agrees to
remedy Lost equipment within 45 days of the Return date by (a)
purchasing and delivering to the GCHC identical replacements or
similar products no less than equal in function and quality, as
determined by written vendor advice or (b) paying by cash, check, or
University internal account transfer the replacement cost as
determined by the GCHC or the maximum replacement fee below, whichever
is less. The Special Events Chair agrees to quote the GCHC's
replacement cost within 5 days of damage reports. The user agrees to
notify the GCHC in writing within 10 days of the Return date whether
the user chooses to remedy damages by method (a) or method (b). If
the user chooses a replacement method that costs less than the damage
deposit, the Special Events Chair shall reimburse the user for unused
safety deposit funds by check within 10 days of replacement delivery
to the GCHC.
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The GCHC declines to lend the lights to any user who does not (a)
state familiarity with legal safety regulations, University safety
policies, and the manufacturer's recommended procedures and thus (b)
accept legal responsibility for the safe operation of the borrowed
lights. The user may request the Special Events Chair to email a
manifest of the light fixtures with model numbers and short
descriptions to help find further manufacturer and safety concerns.
===[Agreement]===
[JURISDICTION]: This agreement will be interpreted under the laws of
the State of New Jersey.
[AGREEMENT]: Please feel free to change the entries in this form and
exchange revisions. This form requires the agreement of three
parties, the Graduate College House Committee Chair David Liao, the
Special Events Chair Christian Bienia, and the prospective user. When
satisfied with a draft, a party may sign this form electronically by
quoting it in an email, along with a declaration of agreement, to both
of the other parties. DO NOT SIGN THIS AGREEMENT IF YOU ARE NOT
SATISFIED WITH ITS TERMS.
--
PhD Candidate
Department of Physics
Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544
A few comments:
1) Regarding contacts.... lets dispense with the seniority in Special Events Chairs, and just make both SECs
contacts.
2) Eligibility: why do we require the event to be free? I'm happy with everything else.
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3) $400 deposit seems steep. How about $200?
4) Remedy for lost equipment - increase payment due date to 90 days.
I would also include a comment somewhere that GCHC and GSG events trump other events, and that priority of
access will be given to these organisations.
Question: I can see the value in having this contract, but are we serious about enforcing this? The contract calls
for an individual student to be liable for up to $4,000. Even if there are damages, I would hope we never seek to
recover money from students, or if we do, that we don't do much more than confiscate the deposit. Certainly, I
hope there is no suggestion that we would seek recourse to the law if the student refused to pay.
With those comments, I note my satisfaction with sharing our facilities with the graduate student body.
Giri
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"This form requires the agreement of three parties, the Chair of the Graduate College House Committee, one of
the Special Events Chairs, and the prospective user."
Clearly when it is signed, the relevant officer will sign their name. Similar changes should be made throughout,
with the only exception being to provide contact details for the relevant people.
2) Consider broadening the group of people who have authority to sign out the lights. Currently if either the chair
or the senior SEC are absent, groups will be unable to borrow the lights. Instead consider something like the
following: 2 GCHC officers must sign; one of the signatories must be a SEC (either one); the other signatory
must be either the Chair or the Assistant Chair. (Possibly broaden the group further to include Secretary and
Treasurer).
3) You might want to consider what authority the GSG has to loan out the equipment. The GSG technically owns
roughly half the equipment......
Giri
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Hi Dave,
Thanks for working out the contract. Here are a few comments:
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* I initially chose $400 as the deposit amount because this is about the cost to replace one of the
more expensive lights.
Cases 1-2 are mostly harmless, but case #3 can get very ugly. Are we going to take legal steps to
get the money in the worst case?
* As an absolute minimum somebody will have to plug in and check every light to make sure that they
all still work. This is easy to do but will take about 20 min.
An intermediate step would be to buy insurance for the lights. If they all break (or some of them) we’ll
be able to replace the damage easily. Moreover, we might be able to get an insurance contract that
allows us to pay a premium for each event we use the lights for. Ideally it’ll work as follows:
If we can’t get such a framework agreement we can still buy an ordinary property insurance and
simply pay the annual cost. Shouldn’t be too much.
- Chris
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David Liao <dliao@princeton.edu> Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 12:11
To: Christian Bienia <cbienia@princeton.edu>
Cc: gchc@princeton.edu
Hi everyone,
Thanks for the comments so far. They are all very thoughtful and
helpful. I am very interested in Chris's discussion of requiring
borrowers to provide proof of insurance.
I would like to tell Luke from the School of Architecture that we are
still working out the details of a contract and that the GCHC is very
busy during the weekend of his request, so we cannot lend the lights
to him. I'll email Luke in a day if no one proposes otherwise.
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