Discussion in 'Contrails and Chemtrails' started by Strawman, Dec 9, 2013.
David Keith was on he Colbert !e"ort last ni#ht, "romotin# his new boo$. %t was interestin# in that Keith was ma$in# clear that he wants to incite debate on o"tions, even i& they are u#ly, li$e s"rayin# sul&uric acid into the atmos"here. !i#ht at the end, Colbert mentioned contrails and as$ed whether this was already ha""enin# without anyone bein# told about it. Keith considered it unli$ely. he whole bit too$ maybe ten seconds. 'aturally, Colbert had the better on him, he always does, since he is ama(in# at interviews. here was no debate, Keith didn't #et to e)"lain the visual di*erence between contrails and sul&uric acid, nor the di*erence in hei#ht o& a""lication. he word +chemtrails+ wasn't mentioned, but Colbert obviously "ic$ed u" on "o"ular culture and cons"iracy and he #ot a #ood lau#h out o& it. Seein# how Colbert is basically "layin# a role, and he's not really choosy with what he throws at "eo"le in interviews, as lon# as it ma$es &or a &unny interview, it was all in #ood s"irit. htt",--www.colbertnation.com-the.colbert.re"ort. videos-/31003-december.09.2013-david.$eith 1)tracted &rom the Closed Ca"tions, 2Cheers and a""lause3 44 Ste"hen, welcome to the re"ort, everybody. 5y #uest toni#ht is a 6arvard Scientist with a new boo$ called 7 Case 8or Climate 1n#ineerin#. hat is how you end u" with a Shar$nado. 9lease welcome David Keith. 5r. Keith, Dr. Keith what you have #ot. :hat you callin# yoursel&; 44 David Keith, %'m #ood with 5r. 44 Ste"hen, 5r. Keith, o$ay, all ri#ht. <ou've #ot a little boo$ here called a Case &or Climate 1n#ineerin#. 6ow will we save the "lanet. =ecause all the "eo"le, all the chic$en littles out there are sayin# the "lanet is warmin# u". <ou don't believe that do you. 44 David Keith, % totally believe it. %t is warmin# u" and % have been thin$in# about, alon# with many other "eo"le, ways to sto" it. 44 Ste"hen, o$ay, does it involve me usin# one o& those little "i#.tail li#ht bulbs; 44 David Keith, hat is a use&ul thin# to do. 7nd % have those in my house. =ut %'m thin$in# about somethin# else. 1 David Keith on Colbert discussing Geoengineering Discussion in 'Contrails and Chemtrails' started by Strawman, Dec 9, 2013. 44 Ste"hen, o$ay, #ood what is the other thin# because % would li$e to do anythin# other than that. 44 David Keith, 1)actly. 44 Ste"hen, so what do we do; 44 David Keith, he other thin# is horri&yin#. %t is that you could actually s"ray sul&uric acid in the stratos"here 20 $ilometers over our head and use that to sto" the "lanet warmin# u". 7nd it's an u#ly tech >). 44 Ste"hen, you can s"ray somethin# into the atmos"here to chan#e.. o$ay. 44 David Keith, s"ray "ollution into the atmos"here to sto" it warmin#. 44 Ste"hen, so in the end "ollution saves them all. :e owe "ollution, we owe acid rain an a"olo#y is what are you sayin#. 44 David Keith, %t would be a totally im"er&ect technical >), it would have ris$s, it wouldn't #et us out o& the lon# run need to sto" "ollutin#, but it mi#ht actually save "eo"le and be use&ul. 44 Ste"hen, o$ay, a#ain, % interru"ted you sli#htly there. 6ow does it wor$, you how many "lanes are we tal$in# about here, how do you do this. 44David Keith, let's say you wanted to sto" it warmin# in 2020. <ou start with a ?eet o& @ust 2 or 3 $ind o& modi>ed business @ets. 44 Ste"hen, li$e a AB. 44 David Keith, that's it. 44 Ste"hen, li$e a AB. 44 David Keith, and you "ut say 20,000 tons o& sul&uric acid into the stratos"here every year and each year you have to "ut a little more and this doesn't in the lon# run mean that you can &or#et about cuttin# emissions. :e will need to rei#n it. 44 Ste"hen, no, we'll #et to it eventually. %n the meantime we're shroudin# the earth in sul&uric acid. 2 David Keith on Colbert discussing Geoengineering Discussion in 'Contrails and Chemtrails' started by Strawman, Dec 9, 2013. 44 David Keith, So "eo"le are terri>ed about tal$in# about this because they're scared that it will "revent us cuttin# emissions. 44 Ste"hen, ri#ht, and also that it is sul&uric acid. 44 David Keith, %t is. 44 Ste"hen, is there any "ossible way this could come bac$ to bite us in the ass; =lan$etin# the earth in sul&uric acid because %'m all &or it. his is the all chocolate dinner. % still #et to have my CC2 and % @ust have to s"ray sul&uric acid, ri#ht. 7ll over the earth. 44 David Keith, !i#ht Duestion but we "ut E0 million tons o& sul&uric acid in the air now as "ollution. %t $ills a million "eo"le a year worldwide. 44 Ste"hen, that's #ood or bad; 44 David Keith, %t's terrible 44 Ste"hen, but it will be better i& we "ut more in. 44 David Keith, we're tal$in# about 1F o& that. 7 tiny &raction o& that. So we should reduce that sul"huric acid emission 44 Ste"hen, but i& it $ills a million "eo"le .. 44 David Keith, %t's bad 44 Ste"hen, we only do 1F more we're @ust $illin# 10,000 more "eo"le. 44 David Keith, you can do math, o$ay. =ut that's.. so $illin# "eo"le is not the ob@ective here. 44 Ste"hen, $illin# "eo"le is not the ob@ective. % @ust wanted to be clear. 44 David Keith, actually, slowin# climate chan#e, actually sto""in# climate chan#e in a way that could hel" "eo"le this #eneration, "eo"le livin# now, in a way there's no other easy alternative. 44 Ste"hen, can you @ust do it &or "art o& the "lanet. 44 David Keith, "retty much the whole "lanet. 3 David Keith on Colbert discussing Geoengineering Discussion in 'Contrails and Chemtrails' started by Strawman, Dec 9, 2013. 44 Ste"hen, could you, @ust say li$e ma$e thin#s better &or the Gnited States; 44 David Keith, Hery hard to do. %t seems that this is mostly #lobal but the bi# &ear is that one country will want it one way and one the other, li$e two &rat boys ar#ue over the thermostat and in many ways the bi##est &ear here, we have no idea how to actually a#ree about how to control the "lanet's thermostat. 44 Ste"hen, let's say the Gnited States and China say yeah, let's do it but !ussia and %ndia say yeah, not do it. 44 David Keith, this is the $ind o& stu* i wa$e u" sweatin# about. e)actly. 44 Ste"hen, :ell it's your #oddamn idea. 44 David Keith, 'o, it actually turns out to be an old idea. his is $nown since 9resident Iohnson. 7nd a Jscience;K that the community mostly decided not to tal$ about it &or &ear "eo"le would then lose the threat o& cuttin# emissions. 44 Ste"hen, :hat what ha""en to its sul&uric acid a&ter it is s"rayed. Does it @ust stay u" there. 44 David Keith, no, it rains down but as % said, it rains down. %t's a tiny edition o& what we're already doin#. 44 have you #otten some #rie& &or su##estin# this; 44 David Keith, sure this is li$e writin# a boo$ about the case &or le"rosy. 44 Ste"hen, do you have one. <eah, it's a #reat wei#ht loss "lan. 44 David Keith, =ut also many "eo"le are ha""y that "eo"le are >nally tal$in# about this because while it is u#ly but does a""ear that it really could do some #ood. 44 Ste"hen, could an individual start this; 44David Keith, in "ractice only a country. 44 Ste"hen, what about a man in li$e a hollowed out volcano with henchmen who occasionally sha$es his >st at the s$y and says they said % was a &ool at 6arvard. :ho's the &ool nowL / David Keith on Colbert discussing Geoengineering Discussion in 'Contrails and Chemtrails' started by Strawman, Dec 9, 2013. 2cheers and a""lause3 44 David Keith, it's a natural worry but i thin$ in the end, no. his would be done by ma@or countries but the "roblem is how countries a#ree about where to set the thermostat. :ho decides. 7nd my bi##est reason &or writin# the boo$ and &or tal$in# about it is my view that we won't ma$e #ood decisions in i#norance. 44 Ste"hen, we have to have the discussion now so when it becomes our last ho"e, "eo"le can say hey, we tal$ed about this, remember. :e said we #et to do it. 44 David Keith, the worst way to ma$e decisions about this would be i& we all a#ree that we won't tal$ about it in "olite society, we su""ress it which is basically what had been ha""enin#. 7nd then in 2030 suddenly the crisis we ma$e &ast decisions. 44 Ste"hen, maybe it's ha""enin# already. Do you ever loo$ at those "lanes u" there, they have contrails behind them; 5aybe all those "lanes with the contrails are s"rayin# chemicals into the atmos"here ri#ht now and Gncle Sam isn't tellin# us. 44 David Keith, seems e)tremely unli$ely. he &act is the #overnment... 44 Ste"hen, the &act that the Gnited States isn't tellin# somethin# to its citi(ens; hat seems e)tremely li$ely to me. !ead the news"a"er. % thin$ they mi#ht have your idea already. han$ you so much. David Keith, 7 Case 8or Climate 1n#ineerin#. :e'll be ri#ht bac$. Mast edited by a moderator, Dec 10, 2013 E