You 'buy' a relationship, not 'build' one

What the hell do I mean?

You 'buy' a relationship NOT build one.
It means when you first meet a woman she has to ALRA!Y ha"e the potential for
bein# a partner.
Ta$e %omputers. You %ould build one yourself. I saw them. They are %alled '$its'.
&ery' "ery few people ha"e the desire and patien%e to build their own %omputer.
(ut that's what most #uys try to do in relationships. They try to 'build' a relationship
with tal$ and $indness and #ifts and flowers.
All the while the woman is not the sort of woman who should be IN a relationship.
A woman who is not relationship worthy will thin$ nothin# of datin# you.
)he thin$s she has e"ery ri#ht to. "en thou#h she is demented.
When you 'buy' a %ar' you don't try to put a different transmission into it. You don't
put 'bi#foot' tires on it either.
You buy it the way you WANT it to be. If it's not RI*+T you don't buy it at all,
If your #irlfriend is not a%tin# li$e you thin$ she should be' it's be%ause you didn't
'buy' a relationship.
You thou#ht you were smarter than the !on -uan who .+O) the ri#ht one in the
first pla%e.
A!
Protect That Heart
You only #et one heart.
One to a %ustomer. (ut you $eep treatin# your heart li$e an enemy instead of a
friend.
Would you let a friend #et hurt time and time a#ain without prote%tin# your friend?
I thin$ not.
)o why do you $eep lea"in# yourself wide open and lea"e your heart to ta$e all the
blows?
It's sad that we spend years and years doin# this to oursel"es.
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Lo"e is not li$e a %ourtroom.
Women are all #uilty of NON/interest until they 0RO& it to you by showin#
.ON)I)TANTLY #ood beha"ior.
Otherwise you do not %onne%t.
No e1%uses' no %an%ellations' no run/arounds' no 'I'm not ready for a relationship'
NO '#i"e me time'.
Lo"e the way you want it or they must be weeded out.
Lo"e the way YO2 want it. )ounds #reat huh? *et used to it !on -uan.
*row a ba%$bone TO!AY. It's NO to brin#in# a friend alon# on the date. It's NO to
rude beha"ior. It's NO to 3I ha"e to %he%$ my s%hedule3. It's NO to 3#i"e me your
number3.
You lead' they must follow. 4or a few months. Then you %an #et 'mutual' if you
%hoose. That's 3I43 you %hoose.
0rote%t the only part of your body that lo"es you5
YO2R +ART.
Than$s for listenin#.
A!
4unny you should ma$e a post li$e this today' A!. I was thin$in# of postin# a
personal testimonial and what you'"e stated relates to that. )yn%hroni%ity
e"erywhere I loo$' some days.
A while ba%$ I posted about my fian%ee brea$in# our en#a#ement. That was four
months a#o / we're tal$in# now' tryin# to be 'friends.' That may ma$e some of you
pissed at me' but she's the first #irl I had se1 with and it is important to me that I
$eep on #ood terms with her. 'Nuff said. (ut besides that I'm #ettin# de%ent
feedba%$ now on what I was doin# ri#ht and what I was doin# wron#' from someone
who $new me "ery well 6probably too well7. That' in itself' is "ery "aluable.
What she has told me is that' in the be#innin# of our relationship' she wasn't sure if I
e"en wanted a #irlfriend. )he said I seemed %old / whi%h %ould be interpreted as
seemin# distant or mysterious in some ways. At that time in my life I was doin#
$arate' doin# #reat in s%hool' doin# "ery will in dealin# with some personal issues'
and I #uess I radiated %onfiden%e. As time went on in our relationship I be%ame less
se%ure and less %onfident. In the end she bro$e my heart. )he 8888ed up' but I also
allowed myself to be hurt. I wasn't prote%ti"e enou#h of my heart.
We were %lose throu#hout most of our relationship' e1%ept at the end of %ourse. All
alon# we had se1. (ut you $now what? In the be#innin#' when she thou#ht I was
somewhat %old and didn't want a #irlfriend' we had se1 A LOT. We tal$ed and shared
of %ourse' and that felt #ood' but we had se1 A LOT. I #ot ba%$rubs A LOT. )he was a
LOT warmer to me in the be#innin# when she thou#ht she had to wor$ to $eep me. I
#ot more of what I wanted when she wasn't sure if I was interested or not. When she
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found out she had me no matter what' that seems to be about the time that thin#s
went downhill.
Now that I'm tal$in# with her a#ain' and hearin# what she was feelin# and thin$in#
throu#hout the %ourse of our relationship 6she held ba%$ 9uite a bit7' I'm reali:in#
that a surprisin# amount of what I read here about women is true. It doesn't matter
how spe%ial she is or how mu%h she lo"es you / she's still a woman' and women ha"e
to ha"e %ertain thin#s in a man to remain interested in them.
)o I #uess the moral of the story is this5 (e %onfident. (e satisfied with yourself. (e
patient' wait for what you want. (e independent' not desperate. ;eep impro"in#
yourself' $eep #rowin#' $eep broadenin# your hori:ons' $eep tryin# new thin#s' so
that you'"e always #ot somethin# e1%itin# about you to be mysterious about. !o not
impli%itly trust anyone / trust is earned and not #i"en. R)0.T women' but do not
allow YO2R)L4 to be disrespe%ted either. ither %all people 6women AN! men7 on
their bullsh<t' or #et them out of your life and lau#h as you wal$ away. You should
probably do both. If someone hurts you' mil$ it for the lessons and mo"e on as best
you %an. If you ha"e to #rie"e' then do so' but don't wallow in it.
If I had $ept all this in mind and applied it' I would be where I'd li$e to be ri#ht now.
4or me 6your a"era#e 'ni%e #uy'7 a%tually applyin# some of what I'"e read on these
boards is %ontradi%tory to years of %onditionin# by the 2)A's %ulture and my own
in%orre%t "iews of what women want.
)omebody sma%$ me upside the head if I'm wron# 6and I mean that in a "erbal
sense7' but it seems to me that you'"e *OT to $eep IL up at all times in datin# and
relationships. (ut, =>? of us men #o about it the wron# way and @? of us men do it
the ri#ht way but don't e"en reali:e they're doin# the ri#ht thin#. I'm startin# to
thin$ the most important way to maintain a woman's IL is by impro"in# yourself and
respe%tin# yourself 4IR)T.
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#oin# to wha%$ it with my oar...
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I prefer salmon o"er %atfish. (ut if a fish Aumps out of the water into my boat' I'm
#oin# to wha%$ it with my oar...
A!
relapse'
As soon as she reali:ed you really lo"ed her' her mission was o"er.
Women are lo"e see$ers. As lon# as they are loo$in# for lo"e in you they will han# in
there. (ut as soon as they find it' they are off with another dude to start the pro%ess
o"er a#ain.
They must ne"er be really sure as you found out. )ay 3I lo"e you3 "ery rarely in the
future.
A!
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IC5
AD we need your input on how to be a mystery
+i'
What to do you say about how to a%t mysterious around women you are interested
in. I mean' if they dont as$ you any 9uestions' you don't tell them any thin# about
yourself. (ut if they as$ you 9uestions' how should you beha"e.
Daybe' #i"e them a "a#ue answer. +ow about #i"in# a funny fa$e answer. Li$e' if
they as$ what is the best e1perien%e of your life' you say 3Ridin# a lion in a Aun#le in
Afri%a3.
The funny answer may harm you a bit' %ause she may start thin$in# you dont ha"e
self/respe%t and may start loosin# respe%t for you.
What do you say?
IC.
A!
That's what you do. You try to dis%lose as little info about you as possible. You do
this by #i"in# "ery #eneral and &A*2 answers. )hort and sweet. Then you turn the
%on"o ba%$ to her.
+er5 !o first dates ma$e you ner"ous?
You5 On%e in a #reat while. +ow about you?
+er5 What $ind of de#ree do you ha"e?
You5 A hard earned one. And you? !id you #o to %olle#e?
You are only "a#ue about personal info. (ut you still %arry a %on"ersation and tal$ all
you want too. Tal$ all ni#ht. -ust not about you.
You should be a%tin# li$e you were on Ameri%a's Dost Wanted. If you tell her too
mu%h she will run.
The LESS they know, the MORE they want to know - Terminator911.
The se%ret is to tal$ about physi%al obAe%ts and stay away from )2(-.TI&
subAe%ts.
Tal$ about musi%' food' anythin# but you.
Cuote5
How about giving a funny fake answer !ike, if they ask what is the best
e"perience of your life, you say #$iding a lion in a %ungle in Africa#
The funny answer may harm you a bit, cause she may start thinking you
dont have self&respect and may start loosing respect for you
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+ow about this one5
+er5 What do you do?
You5 I'm a safe %ra%$er,
I'm $iddin#, !on't say that,
No' IC' li$e you said you will lose respe%t.
-ust #enerali:e all answers about you.
+er5 What was the best e1perien%e of your life?
You5 It was a trip to Afri%a. It was fun. And you?
+er5 Tell me about Afri%a.
You5 One ni#ht I almost #ot eaten by a lion.....
Only tell stories that are true. Noti%e how my answers were about T+IN*) and not
about ideas and feelin#s. That #ets you into trouble.
Ideally' a woman shouldn't $now mu%h about how you feel about thin#s. This ma$es
them "ery %urious about you.
If she as$s' what do you do' always #o for the #eneral term. 3I'm in %omputers. And
you? What do you do?
+er5 where do you li"e in +ouston?
You5 On the south side.
A!
Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by IC5
'n your previous articles you said that conversation kills the mystery (irst
few dates should be action dates
I really said the %on"ersation about YO2 $ills the Dystery. (ut too mu%h %on"o
usually leads to TOO D2.+ personal dis%losure. +en%e the a%tion dates. They are
your insuran%e a#ainst your bi# mouth.
On%e they $now all about you they #et bored. You must re"eal yourself slowly o"er
many dates and as lon# as possible' years e"en,
Cuote5
)hat should we talk on these dates
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Li$e I said abo"e' anythin# you see and do on the dates. 3Loo$ at the si:e of that
#uy, I'"e ne"er see a se"en footer before. Isn't that different?3
Cuote5
)ell, dont talk about the relationship stuff and your feelings, but should we
try to find out her emotional self !ike what does she look for in a
relationship, what kind of guy she prefers This might get us the idea what
she looks in a relationship or in a bf This can help to create chemistry as
woman are emotional being *r we should wait for her to bring these topics
up
You %an as$ +R 9uestions. (ut spa%e them out. That way she won't $eep as$in#
9uestions ba%$.
You really shouldn't be #ettin# so personal early on. You should be wat%hin# to see if
she %an%els dates. !o you feel ri#ht with her? Is she rude when she %an't ha"e her
way to others? !oes she ha"e a temper?
I su##est stayin# on the )2R4A. for a few dates. You may hate the way she orders
food. Why find out her disappointments in life if it turns out you hate the way she
tal$s.
On one of my dates' this #reat loo$in# woman' my a#e' seemed to be tal$in# 'funny'.
I didn't noti%e that in the %lub when we met.
You %reate a Dystery when you $now DOR about her than she $nows about YO2.
Women %laim they want to $now e"erythin# about you. (ut if they find out too soon'
they lea"e.
It's their %uriousity that dri"es them toward lo"e. (e li$e a mini/series on T&. !on't
let them &R $now the endin#,
A!
(y EA0
Take some chances, and don't get too mathematical+ ,P!-A.- $-AD,
It's been a while sin%e I'm posted some a%tual A!&I. on this board' instead of Aust
9uestions. I thin$ this is really important' and would do e"eryone #ood to read.
I noti%e a trend of followin# "ery ri#id patterns and rules in datin#. It seems to be
that people around here ha"e a bun%h of al#orithyms of sorts that they follow when
dealin# with women' re#ardless of other fa%tors.
4or e1ample' if the #irl does somethin# that somehow shows 3low/interest3 she
should be dumped. Or if she does somethin# disrespe%tful' she should be dumped.
And you should only #et the phone number in a spe%ifi% way.
You $now what all of this is? (ull8888. 0ure bull8888.
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No two women are ali$e. Althou#h after years of reAe%tion and harsh treatment it
may be %omfortin# to assume this' but you're belie"in# a lie. )ure' there may be
patterns' there may be traits most share' but I promise you that e"er sin#le woman
ali"e has %ertain features that brea$ defy one e1pe%tation or another.
Treatin# e"ery situation the same is a sure way to #et nowhere... fast.
Let me #i"e you a ane%dotal e1ample5 About a month a#o I ended up ma$in# out
with this really hot #irl I barely $new. )he snu%$ me and my friend into her house
late at ni#ht' and by the end we ended up in her bed #ettin# into a little han$y/
pan$y.
Now' A! and many others would ha"e told me she was Aust usin# me' that she had
little interest le"el by doin# this. They would ha"e said to dump her' not to waste my
time. In fa%t' that's what I thou#ht' and my e1pe%tations weren't "ery hi#h. (ut I
didn't let my assumptions' my math' de%ide my fate. I followed up on it' %alled her
the ne1t day' and we "ery soon had a relationship.
Who would ha"e #uessed? Who would ha"e #uessed that she 8really8 li$es me' and
doesn't play any #ames with me? Who would ha"e #uessed that now I'm in a #reat
relationship' with someone I'"e been loo$in# for for the past year?
Dost of you would ne"er ima#ine su%h I thin#. I wouldn't. (ut I didn't #i"e up Aust
be%ause somethin# didn't #o how I thou#ht it should. Life isn't li$e that. 0eople
%ertainly aren't li$e that. There is no one/si:e/fits/all datin# te%hni9ue that one %an
apply to all women' all situations. It in"ariably depends on your %hara%ter' who the
woman is' how you met' et%.
.ertainly there are some #eneral rules' but these rules are always subAe%t to be
bro$en. Let them #uide you' but don't let them rule you. .reate your OWN destiny.
0hew' lon# post' than$s for readin# the whole thin#.
/Eap
A!
*reat post ((-,'
It's not a RAN!OD happenin# li$e you said.
If you 'win# it' you #et your win#s %lipped,
Women .+OO) %ertain types of men . That's the se%ret we ha"e all been waitin#
for.
The #ood part is that ea%h of us has these 9ualities inside us already. We Aust ha"e to
hi#hli#ht some of them and down play some of the others.
You AR bein# yourself. (ut Aust not your 0A)T self.
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A!
Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by (i#(ad-on5
AD, the common thread to these guys challenging the hard earned logic
behind the more e"perienced guys advice is that they are all still in school
/look at the profiles0 ' guess the nature of youth is to 1uestion the advice of
the older and wiser 2ot that ''m that old ' suppose ' was the same way a
few years ago
You are ri#ht. They Aust ha"en't learned 3You don't $now a *ood One until you met a
(ad One.3
They Aust don't $now what pain is yet. They are too darn healthy,,,
Also' they don't ha"e a problem with the immutable Laws of 0hysi%s.
(ut when it %omes to the Laws of !atin# they frea$ out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Tal$ to you later.
A!
(i#(ad -on
Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by Eap5
3igbad%on, if this was the perfect woman, she wouldn't have left you .imple
as that .o the #spark# died )ould you rather it die in a couple years, or get
an e"tra ten years so it dies after you're married4 's divorce the better
alternative4
Not as simple as that. )o%iety has you %onditioned to belie"e that one day you will
meet your soul mate and all will be perfe%t fore"er. The "ast maAority of men are
%lueless as to how to maintain a relationship' this is why they fall apart so easily.
With a little $nowled#e of the female psy%he' a man %an #reatly in%rease his %han%es
of meetin# and holdin# onto the ideal mate.
Cuote5
The #one true love# isn't based on a spark 't's based on deep, personal,
intimate love 2ot infatuation
Thats the romanti% side of you tal$in# that will ultimately lead to you ta$in# beatin#
after beatin# wonderin# where you went wron# be%ause you 3thou#ht3 you were
doin# e"erythin# ri#ht.
Cuote5
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' would rather have a relationship that was based on truth an honesty fail,
than have one based on tactics and deceit last a few e"tra years 't may be
more difficult at times, but in the long run it's the only way to go
Nothin# should be based upon de%eption or dishonesty. All you need is enou#h self
respe%t to $eep yourself from bein# ta$en ad"anta#e of. There is nothin# wron# with
ma$in# minor adAustments to your personality to be%ome a better person.
Cuote5
Please don't discount me because ''m young .ure, ' have a different
outlook on life than those of you are older Different 2ot less realistic, not
stupid
Not stupid' more li$e romanti%ised. You are %onditioned from a "ery youn# a#e to do
all the wrong thin#s to ma$e a woman fall in lo"e with you. F= years of bein#
railroaded while thin$in# you are doin# e"erythin# ri#ht will ma$e you see this.
Cuote5
This isn't for everyone 5aybe some of you really %ust think you have
unlikable personalities 5aybe you think no woman would possibly love the
$-A! you, so you wear masks
I know that I ha"e the ability to attra%t a hi#hly desirable woman. I ha"e done it
more than on%e. It's what I did durin# the relationship that s%rewed e"erythin# up.
!on't be%ome someone you are not. A%%entute your #ood points and downplay the
bad. !oin# this doesn't %onstitute bein# fa$e or wearin# a mas$. It's all about bein#
the best person you %an be.
0oet5
*n techni1ues 6 focusa bit technical
+a"e you e"er wondered why in retrospe%t you %an anayli:e e"ery little detail about
what went ri#ht G what went wron# when meetin# a woman H startin# a
relationship?? You thin$...3!amn' I fu$$ed up there' why did I do that H say that H
thin$ that H why did I say H do nothin#?, et%.?3 Or 3that was a #ood line H time H
meetin# H e1perien%e H et%.3 or 3That was the perfe%t thin# to say H do H not do' ad
nauseum3....If only we6i7 had that %larity of thou#ht at the moment it was
happenin#, The te%hni9ues on this board %ertainly help with this problem but....
Now I'"e been thin$in# G for me personally' it seems that the problem is 6when it
o%%urs whi%h is less G less than$fully7 that I loose myself in the subAe%ti"e moment G
fail to see obAe%ti"ely how I am bein# "iewed G how the situation is de"elopin#. Ross
-effries tal$s about "isuali:in# e1perien%es from F different "iews...to in%rease
%onfident thou#ht you see the e1perien%e throu#h your eyes' the un/su%%essful way
is to see yourself as if you are wat%hin# a mo"ie somehow outside yourself as if sein#
a pi%ture. I a#ree as to the reasons the first way is more effe%ti"e in buildin#
%onfident "isuali:ations of self in su%%essful a%tions but the se%ond way to me also
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has "alue be%ause it tells you how you are doin# in the situation. In this %ase not a
"isuali:ation of an abstra%t or ima#ined a%tion but the ability in your mind to step
ba%$ G 3see3 what is happenin# while at the same time bein# ri#ht there' loo$in#
thru your eyes in all the subAe%ti"e mishmash of sensory onslau#ht...all the thin#s
that %an %onfuse you G %ontradi%t you...all the info you need to filter G #au#e G rea%t
to in a %ontinuous on/#oin# fashion.
It seems this is a hi#her le"el s$ill be%ause it implies the ability to a%t G rea%t
moment to moment while assessin# H steppin# outside your subAe%ti"e "iew G
monitorin# your a%tions. n"ision runnnin# alon# a road' you see the road G the
trees' the %ars' you smell the flowers' you hear the do# bar$inn#' you feel your feet
hit the #round' et%...now in this analo#y you also see yourself runnin# as if standin#
abo"e or from a heli%opter' now you see that %ar %omin# at you from the ri#ht' the
do# that loo$s mean G mi#ht bite ya, et%. This is what I am #ettin# at. You hold F
"iews at on%e. The sedu%tion of the moment G the woman's presen%e ma$es "iew
one full of thin#s that %an impede your thin$in# G rea%tin# pro%ess'. &iew F is a lon#
shot "iew of the whole s%ene G is more obAe%ti"e. Is it possible to $eep both pi%tures
in your mind at all times or to swit%h from one to the other? The mental ability to
swit%h to "iew F mi#ht be somethin# as simple as a thou#ht 3+ow am I doin# here'
how am I bein# per%ei"ed based on my a%tions?3 i.e. simply not loosin# tra%$ of your
#oals G your a%tions....I am not implyin# you se%ond #uess your a%tions %onstantly
or 9uestion e"erythin# you say G do....that would undermiine all your %onfiden%e. We
should ha"e a plan of sorts G ha"e a basi% understandin# of what we want to
a%%omplish but at the same time 6at least for me7 I find it ne%essary to step ba%$ G
wei#h the situation at the moment. +ow do others see this. !o you e"er wonder why
hindsi#ht is FI H FI? It's be%ause we a%t' rea%t' a%t 'rea%t' et%. We need 6I need7 to
a%t'analy:e 6based on feedba%$7' rea%t' a%t' analy:e 6based on feedba%$7' rea%t, The
$ey for me is to analy:e feedba%$ immediately G 9ui%$ly' otherwise I %an find myself
totally at odds with the situation' lumberin# ahead with my 3a#enda3 G blissfully
i#norant of the real situation. 0art of the s$ill I need to de"elop is to be%ome an
3a%ti"e listener3 whi%h means really hearin# what someone is tellin# me....#ettin#
outside of my thou#hts G into theirs' feedba%$in# on them based on what they are
really sayin#. You %an't wal$ li$e a sleepwal$er' if your dreams are #i"in# you
dire%tion that's fine but you ha"e to open your eyes G ) what is #oin# on at the
same time,
I probably o"er%omple1ified a simple %on%ept but it's one that I personally feel I need
more wor$ on...to not #et 3lost in the moment3 G loose the sense of obAe%ti"e
thou#ht G purpose. To remain poised with 3i%e %old lo#i%3 G always be ready with the
most %orre%t response to the situation. Any thou#hts or more less wordy ways of
statin# this? 0oet
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A%tion is all....words don't mean 8888.
Trust your instin%ts G nothin# else.
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The %at that wal$s alone...
A!5
Any thoughts of more or less wory ways of stating this!
-"oet
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Yea. I ha"e some.
-ust fo%us on the sin#le word '2753-$' when you are tal$in# to a woman.
And then fo%us on the sin#le word 'Y-.' when you %all to as$ for a date.
You only need TWO words 0oet. Number and Yes. This may be too simple for a brain
li$e you,
And please don't pull out any 42's. It's a Ao$e.
4or#et #ors. Ta$e a%tion.
A!
!ee/Ey
A!' You dump e"erythin# with low interest ri#ht?
Well what do you do to #et +i#h/Interest or +i#her the Interest of a women? That is
before you #et the number. That's where I am %onfused and that's where I need to
learn.
You say that as a !- you #et a better #irl e"erytime. As for me If I would wor$ on
fo%usin# on +i#h Interest only' I'd probably #et real NA)TY #irls. Ri#ht now I #et u#ly
#irls hittin# on me and u#ly #irls ha"in# interest in me. I don't wan't them' +ow %an I
a%tually #et the ones I wan't?
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Originally $oste %y Anti-&um$
-"cellent post Dee&8y -ven at your age /9:40 you see that
't took me years and years to really see that ;eep up the fine Don <uan
work
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0oet5
+ow do you #et the ones you want? Tal$ to them' amuse them' en#a#e them G #ain
their interest..intri#ue them' ma$e them lau#h..show them you ha"e balls G are a
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little nuts....6no pun there ha ha7..0oet
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Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by !ee/Ey5
That is before you get the number
I $eep tellin# you that 'si#ns' are unreliable and are a waste of time to loo$ for.
Women +I! 6,7 their true feelin#s. They %on%eal them until they are absolutely
sure. That pro%ess ta$es months and months in a relationship. And you want them to
show it before? Ne"er #oin# to happen.
The u#ly ones do it be%ause they are desparate. The =GQI's !ON'T do it #enerally
spea$in#.
You %an't #et into a woman's head early in the datin# pro%ess. It's a )AL! &A2LT.
You must stri$e women at their )-A; spot. Their 'wea$ spot' is A.TION.
Den rule the a%tion world. Women are $in# in .ODD2NI.ATIN*. (ut wea$ in a%tion.
The se%ret is as$in# them to !O thin#s. This is their wea$ spot. They would rather
'tal$' all the time and dis%uss thin#s. They are e1perts in that. You .AN'T WIN
2NL)) 'YO2' AR T+ R0RT.
And you are. In !OIN* thin#s. As$in# for a date is the ultimate test. If a #irl is
interested she will #o into her 'wea$' area for you. )he will do thin#s. )he will let you
lead her in the A.TION world.
Women that are mediumly to low interested in you will +)ITAT and thin$ about it.
')i#ns' are a form of %ommuni%atin# and that's where women are $in#.
As$in# for a date is really sayin# 'let's do some a%tion thin#s'. You are seein# if she
will lea"e her %ommuni%atin# world for you.
Cuote5
'f ' would work on focusing on High 'nterest only, ''d probably get real
2A.TY girls $ight now ' get ugly girls hitting on me and ugly girls having
interest in me
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-ust say no.
You are under the impression that ='s G QI's will do that. Dost won't. It's not a
R&R)A(L pro%ess. (e%ause u#ly #irls do that' beautiful one's WON'T.
The #ood loo$in# ones +I! their true feelin#s.
You must as$ out the ones that show "ery little si#ns I4 )+ I) )ODON YO2
really WANT,
Ris$ is part of the #ame. No ris$' no reward.
A!
(i#bad -on5
Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by Anti/!ump5
5en rule the action world )omen are king in =*5572'=AT'2> 3ut weak
in action
The secret is asking them to D* things This is their weak spot They would
rather 'talk' all the time and discuss things They are e"perts in that You
=A2'T )'2 72!-.. 'Y*7' A$- TH- -?P-$T
And you are 'n D*'2> things Asking for a date is the ultimate test 'f a girl
is interested she will go into her 'weak' area for you .he will do things .he
will let you lead her in the A=T'*2 world
)omen that are mediumly to low interested in you will H-.'TAT- and think
about it
'.igns' are a form of communicating and that's where women are king
Asking for a date is really saying 'let's do some action things' You are
seeing if she will leave her communicating world for you
A!'
I am %urious where you obtained this info.
(y the way' Y*7 A$- 9@@A D-AD *2 =*$$-=T.
This is the key to understandin# women's beha"iour. This is why you #et her ass off
the phone to meet you in person. It's put up or shut up. Wat%h TL.. There are a
%ouple of shows about se1 and the se1es that they replay from time to time.
A%%ordin# to TL.' men are better dealin# 3silently with thin#s3 whereas women are
better 3dis%ussin# thin#s with people3. Den are supreme at performin# spatial tas$s'
while women are the %ommuni%ators.
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(y #ettin# her off the phone and into a%tion' she is out of her territory. A%tion #i"es
you the power.
Last ni#ht my buddy met a #irl at a %lub. Nineteen yHo' #or#eous 6=7' &RY tal$ati"e.
They stood at the bar and tal$ed for most of the ni#ht. )he was in total %ontrol. I
tried to tell him to #et the S and mo"e alon#' but he reasoned that he needed to tal$
to her all ni#ht to try to #et her to #o home with him. I was Aust sha$in# my head.
I do ha"e to %omment about si#ns of attra%tion thou#h. If a woman is interested in
you' she will show si#ns most of the time' #ood loo$in# or not. If you %at%h her eye'
she will loo$ your way.
I do a#ree it is 3AD to loo$ for and analy:e these si#ns. It is better to simply #o
after what you want. Approa%hin# without #ettin# any si#ns will pi9ue her interest. It
also tilts the balan%e of power in your dire%tion.
I re%ommend tryin# to %at%h both of the TL. shows if you ha"e the %han%e 6they
usually run ba%$ to ba%$7. There is a #oldmine of other info' su%h as spe%ifi%s of what
attra%ts women to men 6loo$s' intelli#en%e' bein# a ris$ ta$er' et%.7. They also
dis%uss how men adhere to a stri%t heirar%hy' whereas women are more e#alitarian.
&ery "aluable stuff for understandin# women and oursel"es.
A!5
(i#(ad-on'
I'm #lad someone understands what I'm tal$in# about.
Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by (i#(ad-on5
' am interested where you obtained this info
The %ommuni%ationHa%tion strate#y is my own. (ut it is based on Den Are 4rom
DarsH Women are from &enus by -ohn *ray.
This boo$ is the best boo$ e"er written about relationships. !on't #et married
without readin# it.
(ut...... it is a "ery dan#erous boo$ if you apply it to datin#.
!O NOT, Repeat' !O NOT apply it to datin#.
Why? (e%ause you will be manipulated and used.
The DarsH&enus boo$ 6-ohn *ray7
%an only wor$ if you ha"e married a +I*+LY INTR)T! woman. Li$e (onnie' his
wife.
)uppose you marry a woman that doesn't lo"e you. +appens all the time. All the
#i"in# will be ON )I!! on your side. )he will ma$e e1%uses why she doesn't want
to ma$e lo"e to you. (y the rules of the boo$ you +A& 6,7 to a%%ept her feelin#s and
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.ANNOT 'IN&ALI!AT' them.
It's li$e you ta$in# a %riminal into your house but you %an't %all the poli%e when he
robs you.
You a%%ept a women's ne#ati"e feelin#s ONLY I4 she really lo"es you.
If you use the boo$ for datin# you will be li$e Lo%$man. You will ha"e to be
'understandin#' e"en about her insultin# you.
You are a smart dude (i#(ad-on. I $now you #et this.
The boo$ GltTGltTGltTGltT0R)200O))G#tTG#tTG#tTG#tT hi#h interest. (ut he doesn't
say that in the boo$. &ery dan#erous.
About your other %omments5
As you said there AR many 'si#ns' a woman #i"es. I +A& seen some of those TL.
shows. They are #reat. Li$e in one show they showed a tape of how some women
loo$ at a #uy's shoes when they first meet. I don't doubtyou are Aud#ed' by some
women by your shoes. As a matter of fa%t I always ma$e sure' after seein# that
show' my shoes are new when #oin# out,
)o I am not a#ainst si#ns.
The #reatest lesson you will e"er learn as a !on -uan is this5 You must stop
'understandin#' women and start .+OO)IN* ones that wor$ with you and not
a#ainst you.
DarsH&enus doesn't tell you that IT I) 2NN..))ARY TO 2N!R)TAN! a woman if
she is hi#hly interested in you, )he will automati%ally do e"erythin# ri#ht,
*ood lu%$ (((.
A!
Da#as5
>etting a number doesnt mean high interestwhy4
Theres this problem i"e been ponderin# for a little while now. Im a firm belei"er in
usin# A!'s 3Whats your number ta%ti%3. And so far I ha"e had QII? su%%ess with
it6wor$ed with li$e @ #irls7. As soon as this o%%urs I thin$ %ool shes interested. (ut as
soon as I %all and as$ for a date I find out otherwise...why is that? All of but one of
these women ha"e a#reed to a date on the phone and sound enthusiasti% about it.
(ut when it %omes down to it...they dont follow throu#h. !ont #et me wron#
here...im as$in# them li$e a man ie53lets do 111 on sat et%.3 im not Aust as$in# them
what do you want to do. This is "ery frustratin# for me here be%ause thats what has
happened with the last few #irls i"e tal$ed to on the phone. )o if anyone %an e1plain
here whats #oin# on...maybe im missin# somethin#. Its ob"ious that they are not
interested bH% i dont #et %alls ba%$ from them...but im wonderin# if there is
somethin# im missin# here and not relai:in#.
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Than$s
Da#as
A!5
Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by Da#as5
And so far ' have had 9@@A success with it/worked with like B girls0
)o far so #ood. None told you to ta$e a hi$e. I li$e that.
Cuote5
3ut as soon as ' call and ask for a date ' find out otherwisewhy is that4
Well' you didn't say what ea%h #irl said. What they say is important. It tells you
where you went wron#.
I $now it's alot of wor$' but I need to see a brief list of what ea%h #irl said the first
time and whether or not you %alled ba%$ a ).ON! time and what they said the
se%ond time.
1ample5
*Q. )he said her #randmother was si%$ and %ouldn't #o. .alled ba%$ one wee$ later.
)aid she was busy.
*F. )aid sure but wanted to %all me ba%$ for a time. )he didn't %all. I %alled her one
wee$ later. I left a messa#e. )he still didn't %all ba%$.
You ha"e to #i"e a ).ON! %all one wee$ apart in %ase her e1%use was real.
Cuote5
All of but one of these women have agreed to a date on the phone and sound
enthusiastic about it 3ut when it comes down to itthey dont follow
through
What does 'a#reed to a date' mean mean? !oes that also mean they all %alled you
ba%$ and %an%eled? +ow did they #et your number? All 4O2R as$ed for it? I don't
thin$ that's possible.
Cuote5
'ts obvious that they are not interested bCc i dont get calls back from
them
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Tell me after you as$ for the date and they say yes' how you end up with no date. I
don't #et it.
A!
Da#as5
O$ let me thin$ here. *irl SQ sounded all e1%ited about the date idea but she had to
help a friend mo"e that wee$end 6told me that b@ i as$ed her out7. (ut was
enthusiasti% about doin# somethin# ne1t wee$. )he as$ed for my number to %all me
but ne"er did. I %alled ba%$ li$e F times...one wee$ apart and left ms# with mom i
thin$...ne"er heard from her. Number thrown in trash.
*irl SF. A#ain same thin#...#ot her number %alled her li$e > days later i thin$. As$ed
her out to do somethin# 6a#ain really enthususiasti%ly a#reed7 said she had some
pub/%rawl thin# #oin# on for sat but wanted to #et to#ether. )he was on her way out
when i %alled so she as$ed for my number to %all me later in wee$ and let me $now.
)he ne"er %alled me. I $new ahead of time she wouldnt %all 6from past e1perien%es
with this7 so I went ahead and made plans with someone else. I %alled her li$e a
wee$ after i ha dtal$ed to her last and left a ms# 3+i 111 this is ma#as %all me >>>/
>>>/>>>>3. Ne"er heard from her either...at this point i didnt bother with a se%ond
%all i felt that this ms# i left was her se%ond %han%e sin%e she blew the first %han%e.
Number pit%hed in trash. )o tell me people whats #oin# on here....all the si#ns loo$
#ood intially and then nothin# happens. I"e %ome to reali:e that Aust bH% they as$ for
ur number it doesnt mean 8888 it Aust means they will ne"er %all you.
Da#as
A!5
The reason %ould be two thin#s.
Daybe it doesn't wor$ for youn# #uys. )omeone mentioned that. I ha"e to thin$
about it. I $now if you as$ a mature woman for her number she won't #i"e it out that
easily and will usually say 3we %an meet somewhere3 or 3maybe I'll see you here
ne1t wee$3.
4rom readin# this board I #et the impression that "ery youn# #irls are pretty free
with their numbers. Daybe they ha"en't been burned yet by men and are more open.
Older women F>U are more %autious and really ha"e to li$e you to #et the number. I
ha"e to thin$ about this.
The se%ond reason mi#ht be that my stuff only wor$s VI? of the time.
It is not QII?. No plan is. I $now somethin# definite5 A home phone number is
(TTR than meetin# a woman somewhere' or waitin# wee$s as$in# for dates that
ne"er happen 6see Lo%$man's topi%7.
I Aust don't $now. I would #uess toward the a#e thin#. )o why don't you Aust fo%us
toward #ettin# a 3yes3 to dates?
No yes' you dump. .an%eled dates you dump. That should #et you %loser to an
interested woman.
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Well? )orry if you are disappointed.
A!
A!5
Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by pimpstress $e$a5
D(-5A!- )*$D. *( )'.D*5D
after all, you asked for her number .H-'. '2 =*2T$*! 2*) she gets to
make the decision on whether or not you guys ever get together
)orry 0impstress ;e$a. That is traditional datin# wisdom.
(ut it is simply not true. This is why ni%e #uys #i"e up their >I? in a relationship.
The #uy is IN .ONTROL. The #uy as$s for your number. If he doesn't as$ nothin#
happens. That's %ontrol. The #uy $eeps you waitin# with you not $nowin# if he will
%all &R,
Then' he as$s YO2 3Let's do dinner.3. The date itself is his idea. The person ta$in#
a%tion is the one in %ontrol.
And if you don't seem interested he drops you.
Dany men aren't a#ressi"e in relationships be%ause they erroneously thin$ the
woman does the %hoosin#.
You are lu%$y 0impstress ;e$a. &ery few men are !on -uans. &ery few will #i"e you a
hard time and sei:e Lo"e 0ower.
)in%erely'
A!
Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by pimpstress $e$a5
' guess the feeling of control lies within who is thinking of it
1a%tly.
Cuote5
)hat did you mean when you said that ''m very lucky that few men are Don
<uans444
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I meant that you still ha"e alot of %ontrol. The fo%us will be on you' not +ID as I
ad"ise #uys here.
If there is a #uy you are not sure of' he will probably sti%$ around for 9uite awhile
before he reali:es you only ha"e a medium le"el of interest.
With my ad"i%e a woman #ets dumped fast.
A!
!ymesman5
)o A!'
you say DN ha"e all the power.
I thou#ht women did' but I #uess when I am man thin$s that way he puts himself at
the mer%y of women.
I felt that we DN had to ID0R)) women to show them we are worthy of them. I
also felt that unless a #uy is into RA0 that women %all the shots.
When I mean shots I don't mean' they de%ide e"erythin# li$e a man has no mind o#
his own. I meanT
IT I) their %all if they e"en want to tal$ to us.
Their %all if the want to date us' sleep with us' or e"en be with us period.
I thou#ht it was that way.
(ut your apprao%h is different and all the time I was in this forum' I did'nt $now that.
You say Ad' that a man has the power' e"en thou#h he has to #o throu#h reAe%tion'
false dates' women with attitudes' women who ha"e no INTR)T in us' we )TILL
ha"e the power.
Tennisfrea$5
confused by all these conflicting advice+
4irstly A! and the rest are always sayin# NOT to %ome on too stron# when you first
start datin# a #irl.
Then I read that you need to initiate ;INO on the 4IR)T few dates to show that you
are romanti%ally interested.
4or#i"e me' but isnt that %omin# on too stron#??? Also' how %an you #et yourself
into a position to initiate ;INO? In a publi% pla%e? I mean say you are sittin# a%ross a
table doin# lun%h' surely you %ant Aust rea%h out and #rab her??
What about at the %inema? Would it be ris$yH%heap to rea%h out and ;INo then? OR
when you two are ta$in# a stroll in the mall.
.heers
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A!5
Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by tennisfrea$5
(orgive me, but isnt that coming on too strong444
I am the only #uy here in the 4orum that doesn't belie"e in ;ino.
I'm not tal$in# 'a#ainst it' now.
(efore you as$ for the number I feel it is a no/no. It shows too mu%h interest.
On the first' se%ond and third date you should be wat%hin# to see if she tou%hes YO2.
This is hi#h interest if she does. If you are tou%hin# her' you ha"e spoiled this little
test.
A deep $iss and holdin# her in your arms at the end of the se%ond and rest of the
dates is enou#h to show a romanti%
interest. And $eep your Dystery in %he%$.
I usually LAN IN .LO) durin# the dates when I'm rea%hin# for somethin# or doin#
somethin# on the date. Li$e readin# a menu to#ether. This is my "ersion of '$ino'. I
#et real %lose then #et ba%$ to a normal
position.
This shows her I am a Dystery
(2T not afraid to #et %lose to her. It substitutes for tou%hin#.
Now about hand holdin#. I always wondered' do you hold her hand when %rossin#
the street durin# the first few dates. Or at times when she mi#ht be #et hurt?
No. You tou%h her shoulder or ba%$ Aust below her ne%$. You do that to prote%t her.
No hand holdin# for as lon# as you %an hold out.
If she #rabs YO2R hand at any time' first date on' ma$e sure you hold ba%$.
Dassi"e tou%hin# from the number thru the fourth date I feel I the a%t of a man who
is needy.
+old her' $iss her' sit &RY %lose' but no massa#es please.
)orry if this #oes a#ainst all the others.This is my personal opinion. 2se your own
Aud#ement men.
I #uess I am TOO stri%t. (ut I won't return to DR. Ni%e *uy.
A!
(i#bad -on5
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Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by Anti/!ump5
3efore you ask for the number ' feel it is a no&no 't shows too much
interest
I would ha"e to a#ree with you on this' for the most part.
Cuote5
*n the first, second and third date you should be watching to see if she
touches Y*7 This is high interest if she does 'f you are touching her, you
have spoiled this little test
I don't $now... most of the time if I ha"e waited this lon# to initiate %onta%t it
be%omes aw$ward to start. Also' unless she really li$es you' you are startin# to step
into the friend :one.
Cuote5
A deep kiss and holding her in your arms at the end of the second and rest of
the dates is enough to show a romantic
interest And keep your 5ystery in check
Dan' I hate aw$ward moments. If I ha"e at least made her %omfortable with an
inno%ent tou%h from me' it will be that mu%h less aw$ward when I #o for the 3not so
inno%ent3 stuff.
Cuote5
' usually !-A2 '2 =!*.- during the dates when ''m reaching for something
or doing something on the date !ike reading a menu together This is my
version of 'kino' ' get real close then get back to a normal
position
I li$e that. )tudies ha"e shown that someone who already has a fa"orable impression
of you' sittin# %loser ma$es them li$e you more.
Cuote5
5assive touching from the number thru the fourth date ' feel ' the act of a
man who is needy
Dassi"e tou%hin# is a no/no. Li#ht' inno%ent stuff will in%rease her interest and ma$e
her want more. And thats the idea' ma$e her want more' ri#ht?
Cuote5
' guess ' am T** strict 3ut ' won't return to 5$ 2ice >uy
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I %an see where $ino may lead to too mu%h interest bein# shown on your part. I
thin$ the tri%$ is to use it wisely to proAe%t %onfiden%e and raise interest.
None of us wants to return to our ni%e #uy roots. We all Aust ha"e different ways of
$eepin# oursel"es from it.
0oo$5
There is a sin#le purpose for ;ino5 to show that you are a )e1ual (ein#. Li#ht
tou%hin# on the arms' shoulders' upper ba%$' for%es her to thin$ se1ually about you
and #i"es her permission to tou%h you similairly or to up the ante. *irls LO& $ino.
If you do not initiate ;ino and wait for her to do it' you are Dr. Ni%e *uy. This is what
Ni%e *uys do and why they lose. They are too 'ni%e' and thin$ that tou%hin# them will
's%are' her or show that you are too interested 6by tou%hin# her it tells her that you
are interested in her se1ually7.
4ailure to do this will land you ri#ht into the 3Let's -ust (e 4riends3 Eone. The #irl will
see you as a ni%e personality but se1ually as a manne9uin. Why? (e%ause
manne9uins don't intiate $ino.
"en my 'ni%e #uy' friends' when they started iniatin# ;ino' had full relationships
(LO))OD pra%ti%ally o"erni#ht. ;ino is that powerful.
You T)T the #irl's interest by doin# ;ino and )IN* +OW )+ R)0ON!).
;ino is the 2LTIDAT INTR)T T)T. You %an tell if a #irl is Aust 'playin#'' 'teasin#''
bein# a 'professional dater' or truly interested by how she responds to the ;ino. If
she opens up her posture' mirrors your tou%h' et%. then she is interested and
attra%ted to you )R2ALLY. 6This is why ;ino is said to be the first true step of the
%ourtship ritual.7
If you WAIT for her to $ino first' you will A7 )pend more money and time ta$in# her
on dates waitin# for her to initiate ;ino 6)he's waitin# for T+ DAN to initiate it' Aust
as you initiated the %ourtship by as$in# for her number7 and (7 "entually landin# in
34riend3 :one.
4ailure to initiate ;ino W Ni%e *uy
0oet5
4ailure to initiate ;ino W Ni%e *uy
XHbYXH9uoteY
QII ? with you on your entire post...totally %orre%t sir, I finally fi#ured this out for
myself G I always #o for as mu%h ;ino as I %an..you will $now easily enou#h if it's
bein# a%%epted or not...immediate feedba%$ G easily adAustable to the mood G the
mindset of the re%epient...."ery powerfull stuff...Outa here' 0oet
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A%tion is all....words don't mean 8888.
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(i#bad -on5
Cuote5
Ori#inally posted by 0oo$5
There is a single purpose for ;inoE to show that you are a .e"ual 3eing
!ight touching on the arms, shoulders, upper back, forces her to think
se"ually about you and gives her permission to touch you similairly or to up
the ante >irls !*F- kino
Amen brother.
Cuote5
'f you do not initiate ;ino and wait for her to do it, you are 5r 2ice >uy
This is what 2ice >uys do and why they lose They are too 'nice' and think
that touching them will 'scare' her or show that you are too interested /by
touching her it tells her that you are interested in her se"ually0
Yea' that's e1a%tly how I #ot mailed off to L-(4 land many times. You want to tou%h
them but are afraid of %omin# on too stron# or whate"er.
Cuote5
;ino is that powerful
&ery. You %an be unattra%ti"e to her' and if you %an #et her %omfortable with your
tou%h her interest le"el may in%rease dramati%ally. I'm tellin you' my buddy wasn't all
that in the loo$s department' 6the #irls that were %hasin# him told me this7 but he
poured on the $ino and he had Z of them at any #i"en time all o"er him.
Cuote5
You T-.T the girl's interest by doing ;ino and .--'2> H*) .H- $-.P*2D.
Absolutely.
Cuote5
'f you )A'T for her to kino first, you will A0 .pend more money and time
taking her on dates waiting for her to initiate ;ino /.he's waiting for TH-
5A2 to initiate it, %ust as you initiated the courtship by asking for her
number0 and 30 -ventually landing in #(riend# Gone
Not only do women e1pe%t the man to initiate %onta%t' they also e1pe%t him to be
the one to turn up the heat on%e you're in the $it%hen.
Cuote5
(ailure to initiate ;ino H 2ice >uy
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.ould ha"e sa"ed myself a ton of #rief with this $nowled#e years a#o.
Tennisfrea$5
what do you do when she says the magic words4
+re's a hypothethi%al situation5
)upposed you'"e been #oin# out with this %hi%$ for li$e a month' obser"in# all the !-
rules. )O one day she says she 's
in lo"e H really li$es Hhead o"er heels about you.
Whats the !- way to respond? 0lay it %ool and don t respond parti%ularly e1%ited?
Or tell her you feel the same way sin%e the 4IR)T day you met her?
(i#bad Aon5
The last few relationships I'"e been in it seems li$e the #irls are tellin# me this after
only $nowin# them for a wee$.
I Aust $eep my po$er fa%e on and let them wonder for awhile. Tellin# her your true
feelin#s is a #ood way to %hase her out the front door.
A!5
I would Aust say 3That's wonderful3 and then $iss her.
If as$ed how I felt' I would say 3;eep #oin# with me and find out3. )he will be mad
but will be !YIN* to find out,
Ne"er tell a woman how you feel under two months. Now matter e"en if she says
how )+ feels.
Dost new relationships brea$ up in ei#ht wee$s. You must see if she will be around
after the se%ond month.
Remember' you may want to dump her before ei#ht wee$s. You %an't say 'I lo"e you'.
Then brea$ up with her when you dis%o"er somethin# you don't want.
Wait and be sure.
A!
!o%tor5
Dy response is #enerally 'I lo"e me too.' You'll #et hit for it
If she pushes you bust on her for it.
Then one day if you de%ide you mean it and tell her you lo"e her it'll ha"e a +2*
effe%t
Armand5
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.moothe sailing tonight+
I was at dinner rally earlier this e"enin#' a politi%al/type fun%tion. Now' I went there
spe%ifi%ally for that purpose' but when I #ot there / politi%s was the last thin# on my
mind. I ne"er would ha"e e1pe%ted that many FI/F> yHo women there' %ompared to
the same lot of men. 6((-/Loo$ed to me li$e it WA) about @5Q ratio in the room' in
my a#e #roup7 4i"e or ten minutes after #ettin# there' a 6FF/F@7 redhead 6my
wea$ness7 wal$s by %asually and..
De5 3+i3 with a smile
+er5 3+i3 returnin# a warmin# smile.
De5 +a"e you met XThe .andidate's NameY yet?
+er5 I ha"en't had the pleasure yet' but I do hope to meet him.
De5 0ause for a moment of silent eye %onta%t and a bi##er smile
+er5 a bi##er smile
De5 What's your name?
+er5 (i# smile/ I'm X0retty +ot RedheadY.... And you are...?
De5 I'm X!- ArmandY
+er5 It's a pleasure to meet you !-
I started to ease my way into the !- by as$in# about her interests in the party
fun%tions' why she's there toni#ht' %olle#e' where she's from' et%' et%. I pretty mu%h
had her tal$in# VI/=I? of the time on%e I #ot her started.
(y the time I was #ettin# ready to as$ for her home phone number 6about Q hr' hour
and Q>7' she was sittin# %losely doin# the 3forearm tou%h3 ea%h time she lau#hed out
loud / whi%h was 9uite often. Well' to ma$e a not/really/that/lon#/of/a/story short' I
said 6in a tone that let her $now I was wrappin# up and mo"in# on for the ni#ht75
3Well X0retty +ot RedheadY' I enAoyed meetin# and spea$in# with you
http5HHwww.sosua"e.%omHubbHsmile.#if3 and before I %ould really #et any further she
had her hand in her purse #rabbin# a pen out of her %he%$boo$. After se%urin# the S
and %losin#' I then made my e1it dire%tly.
There's another party on ele%tion ni#ht 6Tuesday7 that i'll probably %all her on and
as$ if she'd li$e to #o. I thin$ her interest was hi#h enou#h to warrant %allin# a day
or two sooner than usual. After that' I thin$ I should #i"e her a little while to
marinate' so to spea$. http5HHwww.sosua"e.%omHubbHbi##rin.#if Daybe %allin# the
followin# monday for a wednesday e"enin# bite to eat and %offee. (y then' provided
things continue as plotted' her interest should be throu#h the roof in two wee$s
be%ause5
Q7 I did not and will not appear too ea#er' hun#ry' desparate' et%.' but s%ar%e.
F7 I'm only as$in# her out on wee$days for the ne1t F wee$s W mystery and
challenge' she's #oin# to be wondering why i'm only as$in# her out on wee$days
e"enin#s. )oon enou#h' she should start hintin# around about the wee$ends.
[7 I did not respond to her initiatin# tou%h toni#ht W self&control
@7 I made her lau#h the entire time we were to#ether toni#ht / emotion
A!5
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0erfe%t !on -uan.
This should be in the +all of 4ame.
+er 3forearm tou%h3 said that you hoo$ed the bi# fish.
All the ni%e #uys here should paste this to their bed post and start !RADIN* this
stuff.
The woman should follow YO2R lead. Later' down the road' you wor$ to#ether and
thin#s be%ome mutual.
Interested women WOR; with you in the "ery be#innin#.
A!
)hat's Your 2umber4
'Three Little Words'
4or#et %ra:y pi%$up lines
for#et fan%y approa%hes
for#et massi"e %onfiden%e
for#et %ool %lothes
for#et her %onfusin# #lan%es
for#et two hour %on"os.
Turn your life around by as$in# her.......
W+AT') YO2R N2D(R?
////////////////////////////////////
4or#et %olo#nes
for#et the lay#uide
for#et Ross -effries
for#et ne##in#
for#et hair #el
for#et fast %ars
Turn your life around by as$in# her....
W+AT') YO2R N2D(R?
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
for#et Anti/!ump
for#et (i# !on
for#et ;rynnster
for#et Austin 0owers
for#et Eap
for#et .e%il
Turn you life around by as$in# her....
W+AT') YO2R N2D(R?
BBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
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Total happiness is waitin# for you but you must say the three little words to
her...4irst' introdu%e yourself' then a little tal$in#' then....
What's your number? And #o home. DI))ION A..OD0LI)+!.
6Than$s Eap. *reat phrase7
*ood Lu%$.
A!
Austin 0owers5
thin$ he is sayin# that for#et all of these other thin#s that you #et hun# up on and
Aust as$ for the number. you %an fo%us on a million different thin#s' tryna smell #ood'
tryna wear the ri#ht thin#' tryna say the ri#ht thin#' tryna do e"erythin# e1%ept the
one thin# that will ma$e it happen whi%h is As$ for the damn number. i understand it.
A!5
At least Austin '#ot it' 0R4.TLY.
I am #lad there is somethin# that we a#ree on. There is a *od after all,
No number' no relationship.
A!
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