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Free-For-All:

The Assassination of Budd Hopkins and Linda Cortile



By
Sean F. Meers

-- Revised and Updated Version --
-- September 10, 2013 --









He who has laughter on his side has no need of proof.
6, 125

Theodor Adorno
List of Complete Updates

Foreword added.
Page 1 Introduction Grammar, typos, paragraphing and casing have been corrected.
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th
of April to April 26),
typos fixed, [Mortellaro] added to quote.
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of April to April 29).
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three pages.
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instead for an effect of uniformity. Factual error on page 27 corrected.
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form.
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Laibows name in the contracted transcription quote has been corrected.
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Grammar has been updated and corrected where improperly used.
Quotation information has been expanded.
-- Sean F. Meers
April 26, 2013
September 10, 2013
Foreword
i

In early March 2011 I publicly released my paper Free-For-All: The Assassination of Budd Hopkins and
Linda Cortile. It was 166 pages in length and written as a rebuttal to Carol Raineys article The
Priests of High Strangeness Co-Creation of the Alien Abduction Phenomenon which was published
on January 15, 2011.
Among other things, Raineys article levelled a series of provocative, yet wholly unsubstantiated,
allegations against UFO and alien abduction researcher Budd Hopkins, the quality of his work, as well
as some of the individuals from the cases he worked on. Linda Cortile, whose groundbreaking case of
an independently witnessed alien abduction in New York City, which was the subject for Hopkins
third book Witnessed: The True Story of the Brooklyn Bridge UFO Abductions (1996), was one of these
individuals.
A little over a month prior to the release of Raineys article I had personally met with Budd Hopkins
and Linda Cortile in New York City and delivered to each of them a 421 page paper Id completed
called Critique Rejected.
Critique Rejected, which took approximately one year to write, was a crafted as a rebuttal and in
depth dismantling of the 25 page paper A Critique of Budd Hopkins case of the UFO Abduction of
Linda * [Cortile] by Joseph J. Stefula, Richard D. Butler and George P. Hansen which was published on
January 8, 1993.
The Hansen/Stefula/Butler critique, and its authors, claimed to have demonstrated that the Linda
Cortile UFO abduction case was a hoax. However, instead of providing evidence to prove that Lindas
case was hoax the claims in their 25 page paper were comprised of a combination of errors, lies,
omissions and hearsays. Their paper, like Raineys article, was provocative yet baseless. Despite this,
for over twenty years their paper has been widely distributed online, and the contents of it have been
quoted by anyone with an interest in discrediting Lindas case. It was for this reason that I decided to
write Critique Rejected and finally set the record straight regarding the facts of Lindas case and the
demonstrably false nature of each and every one of the claims made against it by its subjective
detractors Hansen, Stefula and Butler.
Critique Rejected was painstaking, pedantic work, but upon its completion all of the false claims
from the Hansen/Stefula/Butler critique were finally refuted in fully referenced detail and I was very
pleased to provide solid documentation of that refutation to Budd and Linda.
In writing Critique Rejected I learned a lot about Lindas case, I am still learning about Lindas case
to this day. In checking each of the claims made against Lindas case by Hansen, Stefula and Butler I
was both amazed and shocked at just how much of what they claimed was provably false and how
much of what they claimed was unproven hearsay. What was most unsettling to me was just how
many individuals, UFO researchers, journalists and authors, uncritically accepted and publicly ran with
Hansen, Stefula and Butlers fallacious claims. It made me wonder, if they were so uncritically
accepting of one claim, how many others were they uncritically accepting of. It also made me realise
that it was imperative that I do my own research before I accepted or rejected material.
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In late January 2011, when I learned about and read Raineys article The Priests of High Strangeness
Co-Creation of the Alien Abduction Phenomenon, I decided to research and investigate the claims
made in it myself and see what turned up. Ultimately, what I found was a series of unsubstantiated
claims originating from a biased and irrational source. Upon learning this I decided to construct a
rebuttal to Raineys article, focusing primarily on what was levelled against Budd Hopkins, his work,
Linda Cortile and her case.
When I met Budd Hopkins in person in December 2010 I was of mixed emotions. I was very happy and
excited to finally meet him in person and provide him with substantiated documentation for one of
his cases, but I was also deeply saddened because prior to meeting him I had no idea of the extent of
just how much his health was suffering, and the devastating toll it was taking on him physically. He
was extremely thin and extremely frail, but mentally he was as sharp as a razor. He picked up and
thumbed through Critique Rejected, as he sat on the couch in his living room, asking me questions
and critiquing it as Linda and I sat there with him in his living room. Our meeting was one of my
happiest memories of my life. The only sadness I felt was knowing that, in all likelihood because of his
health, I would never see him in person again. Unfortunately, I was right because almost 9 months
later, on August 21, 2011, Budd Hopkins died from a combination of liver cancer and pneumonia.
When I began writing my rebuttal to Raineys article in early 2011, I was of two mindsets. I knew that
a decent at length rebuttal would normally be allotted much more time to write, three to five months
at a minimum. I also knew, however, that Budd did not have long to live and needed a solid, public
defense as soon as possible. With that in mind I did my best and finished my rebuttal to Rainey in less
than a month, and had it posted online at Kay Wilsons www.alienjigsaw.com website shortly after. A
good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.
In addition to the rebuttal I provided Budd Hopkins with documentary evidence that ultimately
assisted him in the construction of his rebuttals to Raineys claims. I was stunned that in his state of
health that he was actually working on writing rebuttals to his latest critic. It was a herculean effort, in
my opinion, and he ultimately produced two separate rebuttals which were published just months
before his death.
In the months leading up to Budds death I did what I could to be of assistance to him. I managed to
speak with him a handful of times on the phone and conveyed everything I wanted him to know
should anything happen to him. I got the call from Linda when he died. I wanted to be in New York for
his funeral but it was simply not possible, Linda however was there and let me know how everything
went. Budd was a gentle, intelligent, honest and convivial man. He was a consummate professional in
his work and had an open mind and heart.
In looking back on my rebuttal to Rainey, reviewing it and rereading it, there are many things I would
like to add, perfect and indeed correct. In my research and writing on Lindas case Ive dealt with and
written about the inaccuracies of other peoples claims about her case. I firmly believe that when one
goes about applying external criticism to someone elses work one that they also have to be ready and
willing to apply internal criticism to their own work. Locating, acknowledging and correcting any and
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iii

all inaccuracies within my own work, whether they be typos, grammatical or matters of fact, is
essential and something that Im implementing in my revision and updating of this paper.
After Budd Hopkins death in August 2011, his website http://www.intrudersfoundation.org was
taken down. When I released my rebuttal to Rainey (Free-For-All: The Assassination of Budd Hopkins
and Linda Cortile) in March 2011 his website was still up. The only way his website can be viewed
now is by accessing it through Internet Archive Wayback Machine http://archive.org/web/web.php ,
a website record and archival service of dead websites. The reason I mention this is because some of
the facts in my paper reference information from Budds website before it was taken down. Luckily,
even with Hopkins website now gone, the evidence referenced in this paper is still obtainable
through those records kept at Wayback. Links and copies of those specific records have also been
provided in this paper at the appropriate points.
Kay Wilsons website www.alienjigsaw.com was taken down by Kay in early 2013 due to problems
stemming from an individual who was, and is (as of April 26, 2013), cyber stalking her and making
threats against her life. In March 2011 her website was still up and information within this paper
references data that was once at Kays website. That data has also been captured within this paper.
Her website, due to her personal security situation, is not available through internet wayback.
However, the information from her website presented here does not detriment her situation as it is
quotations from individuals regarding Budd Hopkins. The details of those quotes have been provided.
The magazine Paratopia, in which Carol Rainey published her article, had a short life and no longer
exists. The links to the issue of that magazine in which her article was published are dead. All quotes
from her article are provided with accompanying details, page numbers, line numbers etc. The
website http://www.paratopia.org in its original form no longer exists either.
I hope that the readers of this revised and updated version of Free-For-All: The Assassination of Budd
Hopkins and Linda Cortile find it informative and helpful in their research and understanding of the
inaccuracies within Raineys article and the unfortunate situation surrounding it.
-- Sean F. Meers
April 26, 2013
* Lindas real last name has been substituted with her pseudonym Cortile by me.

Within days of Carols article being published, Kay Wilson at her website www.alienjigsaw.com ,
appealed to those whove worked with Budd and knew him firsthand to write in with tributes
dedicated to him. More than fifty people wrote in, including Psychologists, Scientists, Psychiatrists
and abductees, with their experiences in dealing with Budd.
89
These people attested not only to his
good character but to the professional and caring treatment of the individuals he works with. Is this
all a big conspiracy too, fifty or more of them lying for Budd for the sole purpose of discrediting Carols
article? Proof trumps a theory no matter what line of work one is in. Much has been said, much has
been accused, nothing of consequence has been proven.
Introduction
Page 1

Carol Raineys recent article The Priests of High Strangeness Co-Creation of the Alien Abduction
Phenomenon
9
, as well as certain episodes of Jeremy Vaenis and Jeff Ritzmanns internet based
paranormal podcast Paratopia
164, 123
have enthusiastically and repeatedly called in to question the
credibility of Budd Hopkins, his work and methodologies, as well as some of the individuals from his
cases.
The purpose of this paper is to examine and test the evidential veracity of the multitude of claims and
accusations, being levelled from a variety of sources, against Budd Hopkins, his work as well as Linda
Cortile and her case.
UFO and alien abduction researcher Dr. David Jacobs is currently at the heart of a scandal regarding
purported ethical and professional abuses on his part towards purported alien abductee Emma
Woods (pseudonym).
Dr. Jacobs is both a longtime friend and colleague of Budd Hopkins and someone who Hopkins
supports and is standing by. In regards to the Emma Woods case Hopkins has spoken to her by
phone and corresponded with her by mail, he has never met her.
Many people want to know definitively whether there has been any wrong doing on Dr. Jacobs part
in relation to the Emma Woods case, and if Hopkins support of Jacobs makes him as professionally
and ethically culpable.
The Jacobs/Woods scandal may ultimately have its day in court, with each party presenting their
evidence and version of events. Only at the end of those proceedings, or until the complete evidence
pertaining to this matter is released by both parties, will objective and definitive conclusions be able
to be reached. If there has been abuse it needs to be penalised, if there has not there needs to be
vindication. What is important is that justice is achieved and that people base their conclusions on all
of the evidence, not parts of it.
I will employ fact checking as well as careful pedantic scrutiny to the multitude of details involved in
this matter. The results of these techniques will be what I base my conclusions on. The evidence Ive
used to arrive at these conclusions will be referenced and available for empirical examination in the
appendix of this paper.
Authors Note
Page 2

One cannot dismiss a persons claims outright simply because the claimant had a prior relationship to
the person they were making claims about. All claims require consideration and verification. Claims
can only be dismissed if they are unable to be verified.
FACT
Budd Hopkins autobiography Art, Life and UFOs was publicly released on June 24
th
2009.
124


Carols article The Priests of High Strangeness co-creation of the alien abduction
phenomenon was publicly released on January 15
th
2011.
122

Below is the only statement in Hopkins autobiography in which he addresses his former relationship
and marriage to Carol Rainey. This statement was publicly released in Hopkins autobiography a year
and a half before Carol Rainey began to publicly level claims and allegations against Budd Hopkins, his
work and the individuals from his cases. This statement was made long before there was any need for
Hopkins to publicly defend himself, his work and the individuals from his cases against the claims and
allegations of Carol Rainey and is therefore an unmotivated statement.
113

Art, Life and UFOs
by
Budd Hopkins
Kindle Edition (*.MOBI Format)
Location 6351 - 6363 (Kindle for PC 4)
ISBN: 1933665793
Evidence of Carol Raineys Bias
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Page 12; Left Column; line 13 16,
The priests of high strangeness co-creation of the alien abduction phenomenon
By Carol Rainey

URL: www.paratopia.org/paratopia_magazine/mag_preview_final.pdf

FACT
A derogatory comment about her husbands art career that served no purpose and did not advance or
solidify her main arguments against Hopkins in any way.



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Page 5; right column line 14 15,
The priests of high strangeness co-creation of the alien abduction phenomenon
By Carol Rainey

URL: www.paratopia.org/paratopia_magazine/mag_preview_final.pdf
FACT
An admission that she had arguments with Hopkins. Everyone argues of course, but when one is
making scandalous allegations about someone, a little fact like whether or not they argued with
each other in the past can add an angle to take onboard in considering the potential validity of their
claims. (See Chapter Three: THE INSULTS for more examples of bias on the part of Carol Rainey.)









CHAPTER ONE
THE LIES

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LIE #1
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Page 11; Right Column; line 51 53, Page 12; Left Column; line 1 5,
The priests of high strangeness co-creation of the alien abduction phenomenon
By Carol Rainey

URL: www.paratopia.org/paratopia_magazine/mag_preview_final.pdf

FACT
The webpage was never pulled down and is still there (see the following pages for proof).
The webpage is located at the following URL:
URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_release.html
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Page 5

FACT
URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_release.html

The webpage that the above URL leads to has been online and cacheable since 2004. A website has to
be online and available in order for it to be cacheable. The caching of the webpage that the above URL
leads to began on May 08, 2004 and ended on June 25, 2008. The webpage was not altered and
nothing was added or removed when the caching ended in 2008 as the next fact (see following page)
will prove.

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URL: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_release.html

(Classic Interface)









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FACT
URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_release.html

The webpage that the above URL leads to has not been modified since the 26
th
of April 2008 13:01:10.
This means that it was not altered and nothing was added or removed.
66

In order to find out the last time the following webpage was modified I followed the 2 steps below.
URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_release.html
1. Type the webpage URL into the browser and press enter
2. Type the following javascript code into the browser and press enter:
javascript:alert(document.lastModified)
The webpage answered with a popup box that indicated the last time the webpage had been
modified.


Page 7

The article For Public Release: The James Mortellaro Case first appears in these cache records as
early as May 08, 2004.
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URL:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040508070121/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_rele
ase.html
(Classic Interface)









Page 8

The article For Public Release: The James Mortellaro Case is still there in these cache records as late
as June 25, 2008.
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URL:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080625033057/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_rele
ase.html
(Classic Interface)
FACT
With the webpage cache records beginning on May 08, 2004 and ending on June 25, 2008 and since
the webpage has not been modified (files added, removed etc.) since April 26, 2008 at 13:01:10 it
would be a deliberate falsity to state that:
The [Mortellaro] page on Hopkins Intruders Foundation website was quickly pulled down and there
seems to be little evidence that anything went wrong.
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The webpage was added in 2004, cached repeatedly over four years, then in 2008 the webpage
cacheing activity ceased and the webpage remained unmodified with nothing being added or
removed. This proves that the webpage was never removed and is still there today.


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FACT
URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html
The webpage that the above URL leads to has been online and cacheable since 2001. A website has to
be online and available in order for it to be cacheable. The caching of the webpage that the above URL
leads to began on February 07, 2001 and ended on June 25, 2008. The webpage was not altered and
nothing was added or removed when the caching ended in 2008 as the next fact (see following page)
will prove.
69

URL: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html

(Classic Interface)







Page 10

FACT
URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html
The webpage that the above URL leads to has not been modified since the April 29, 2008 at 12:49:54.
This means that it was not altered and nothing was added or removed.
67

In order to find out the last time the following webpage was modified I followed the 2 steps below.
URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html
1. Type the webpage URL into the browser and press enter
2. Type the following javascript code into the browser and press enter:
javascript:alert(document.lastModified)
The webpage answered with a popup box that indicated the last time the webpage had been
modified.


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FACT
The article For Public Release: The James Mortellaro Case first appears in these cache records as
early as August 5 2004.

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URL:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040805233624/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html

(Classic Interface)















Page 12


The article For Public Release: The James Mortellaro Case is still there in these cache records as late
as June 25 2008.

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URL:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080625030830/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html


URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html
With the webpage cache records showing a copy of the article For Public Release: The James
Mortellaro Case being available at the webpage, that the above URL leads to, as early as August 5,
2004 and as late as June 25, 2008, and since the webpage has not been modified (files added,
removed etc.) since April 29, 2008, the article is, and always has been, available online since at least
August 5, 2004. It has never been removed or changed at any point after this date. These facts prove
that the webpage that the above URL leads to was added in 2004, cached repeatedly over four years,
then in 2008 when the webpage caching activity ceased, the webpage remained unmodified with
nothing being added or removed. Therefore it would be a deliberate falsity to state that:

The [Mortellaro] page on Hopkins Intruders Foundation website was quickly pulled down and there
seems to be little evidence that anything went wrong.
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LIE #2

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Page 4; Left Column; line 37 57,
The priests of high strangeness co-creation of the alien abduction phenomenon
By Carol Rainey

URL: www.paratopia.org/paratopia_magazine/mag_preview_final.pdf


58

Page 7; Right Column; line 35 37,
The priests of high strangeness co-creation of the alien abduction phenomenon
By Carol Rainey

URL: www.paratopia.org/paratopia_magazine/mag_preview_final.pdf


Page 14

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Page 4; Middle Column; line 40 44, Right Column; line 1,
The priests of high strangeness co-creation of the alien abduction phenomenon
By Carol Rainey

URL: www.paratopia.org/paratopia_magazine/mag_preview_final.pdf

FACT
To claim that Budd Hopkins works almost exclusively alone, without supervision, and is unwilling to
accept any is demonstrably false. During Hopkins first seven years of investigation of abduction
reports, before he personally used hypnosis, multiple psychologists and hypnotherapists carried out
the hypnotic regressions. Hopkins brought the individuals from the abduction accounts he was
studying to these specialists. These Psychologists and Hypnotherapists included Dr. Girard Franklin,
Dr. Robert M. Naiman and Dr. Aphrodite Clamar.
104, 105, 106, 107, 108, 109, 134

Some of the people who have observed Budd Hopkins firsthand conducting hypnotic regression
sessions are listed over the following pages.











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1) French Journalist, Author and Researcher Marie-Therese de Brosse
79, 102

"I have been able to observe several of [Budd Hopkins'] regressions, and I remember being
favorably impressed by the extreme prudence with which he conducts them, so as not to
influence his subjects."
Marie-Thrse de Brosses,
Enqute sur les enlvements extraterrestres [An Inquiry into Alien Abductions].
Paris: ditions J'ai lu, 1995.
URL:
http://www.gregsandow.com/ufo/Contents/Abduction_Conundrum/abduction_conundrum.htm
URL:
http://www.gregsandow.com/ufo/Contents/Abduction_Conundrum/footnotes/footnotes.htm#5
2

I have witnessed his work and I have been impressed by his behaviour, and I know that he is
very careful when he works with abductees. This is not just a compliment from a friend: I
have had the opportunity to validate this in many cases. I also say this as someone who has
spent seven years studying at Paris University and who has also spent many years studying
this disturbing phenomenon. Budd not only spent hours and hours discussing the subject with
me, but he also allowed me to join him in his support group. He showed me videos of his
regression sessions and I was able to see - firsthand -- how he carefully avoided leading
questions. He also allowed me to speak directly with some of his abductees without being
present so they were able to feel comfortable in their conversations with me.

-- Marie-Therese de Brosses, Author and Researcher

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute









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2) American Journalist Greg Sandow
80



line 392 399, The Abduction Conundrum by Greg Sandow
URL:
http://www.gregsandow.com/ufo/Contents/Abduction_Conundrum/abduction_conundrum.htm

3) New York Journalist Harold Egeln
100

Reading Missing Time in the early 1980s aroused my curiosity about my own experiences. When
his book titled Intruders came out in 1987, I wrote Budd about them. Being a fellow New Yorker, I
approached Budd at a couple events afterwards and in mid-1988 I was referred by him to Dr. Jean
Mundy, a NYC psychologist and hypnotherapist who was working with Budd. My two dozen
sessions with her opened up my own explorations and helped lead me into finding my own
experiencer-run group, S.P.A.C.E. - the Search Project for Aspects of Close Encounters in March of
1992. Budd was a guest at two of our monthly support group meetings in 1993 and in 1995.

I've had dinner with Budd a few times over the years and was a guest on a few occasions at his
support meetings. I was also invited to sit in on two hypnosis sessions with friends who requested
I do so, and was able to observe firsthand how Budd conducts a session.

-- Harold Egeln, S.P.A.C.E. Founder and Facilitator

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute






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4) New York Psychoanalytic Psychotherapist Gibbs Williams
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I have met with Budd on a number of occasions. I have observed him regressing a few abductees.
There was never a time where there was the slightest hint of him not being a consummate
professional. He is ultra sensitive to psychological pain, confusion, trauma and goes out of his way
to be kind, unconditionally accepting, and adhere to the highest of ethical standards.
Budd never tried to lead the abductee into an abduction scenario; in fact Budd both told and
showed me how he would purposely introduce fantasy "facts" that if validated by the abductee
would suggest they are responding to his leading inquiry. When he did this I observed no
confirmation of his purposefully misleading statements.
-- Gibbs Williams, Ph.D., Clinical Psychologist
Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins
URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute

5) Researcher, investigator and author Peter Robbins
87

I was asked to witness a number of hypnotic regressions during the years I worked for Budd,
either by him or the subject or by both of them, but always with the subject's full approval. I
cannot say how many times I was called upon to do this, but can safely say I did so between ten
and twenty times. As a beginning practitioner, Budd worked under the watchful eye of the
respected hypnotherapist Aphrodite Clamar for seven long years, then under the guidance of
other professional hypnotherapists as well. His patience, sensitivity and concern for his subjects is
extraordinary and it was not unusual for him to take up to half an hour to make sure that the
subject was as relaxed as possible before asking them a first question. Transcripts of some of
these sessions are included in his books and are very worth reading. Additionally, the complete
transcript (including both questions and answers) of the long and memorable session he
conducted with Larry Warren, my co-author of Left At East Gate is included in that book and is
exemplary of the manner in which Hopkins conducts this aspect of his work.

Some Thoughts on Budd Hopkins
By Peter Robbins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/Thoughts0nBudd.html





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6) American Journalist and Author C.D.B. Bryan
114, 115

C.D.B. Bryan witnessed Budd conduct five separate hypnosis sessions firsthand on two female
subjects. Details of what C.D.B. Bryan witnessed during these sessions is covered by him in the
following five chapters of his book Close encounters of the Fourth Kind: Alien Abduction and UFOs
Witnesses and Scientists Report.
Chapter XIV Post conference Interview Carol and Alice
- First Hypnosis Session at Budd Hopkins Studio
Page 315 333
Chapter XVI Post conference Interview Carol and Alice
- Second Hypnosis Session at Budd Hopkins' Studio
Page 339 357
Chapter XVII Post conference Interview Carol and Alice
- Third Hypnosis Session at Budd Hopkins Studio
Page 358 382
Chapter XVIII Post conference interview Carol and Alice
- Fourth Hypnosis session at Budd Hopkins' Studio
Page 383 401
Chapter XIX Post conference Interview Carol and Alice
- Fifth Hypnosis Session at Budd Hopkins Studio
Page 402 415
Close encounters of the Fourth Kind: Alien Abduction and UFOs Witnesses and Scientists Report
by C.D.B. Bryan (Hardcover)











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FACT
Some members of the medical community that Hopkins has worked closely with in his work include:

1) Psychiatric Hypnotherapist John S. Carpenter MSW, LCSW
95, 96

Thank you for this opportunity to express my deepest appreciation to Budd Hopkins, a true
friend and pioneer in a field of research that nobody knew how to approach. As a mental health
professional I respect and appreciate his involving and working closely with psychiatric
professionals like John Mack and myself. We could see how deeply he felt about the emotions and
mental health of every client.

-- John S. Carpenter MSW, LCSW, Psychiatric Hypnotherapist and UFO Abductions
Researcher

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute

Personally, Budd shared many clever, insightful, and very helpful techniques and ideas that
jumpstarted my research in a wise direction. He was very careful to not reveal info that could bias,
contaminate, or suggest certain responses. In fact, he and I often discussed paradoxical
questioning that would try to lead subjects toward logical responses to see if they could be
swayed or led. The amazing thing is that subjects would stick adamantly to bizarre and irrational
details -- like floating through a solid wall -- rather than led by us toward realistic answers -- like
leaving through a doorway.

I utilized one of his clever questions frequently -- in which I asked what the subject notices in any
of the corners of the new room he/she finds himself in. This again is a logical but leading question
to see if confabulation or imagination could be triggered. NOT ONCE has any subject reported
what he sees in any corner --- simply because the room appears to be round -- no room on board a
UFO ever seems to have corners! In other words, logical questions could not influence a witness
toward logical answers because they are determined to report what they have experienced no
matter how bizarre it seems. So these are good examples of the clever research wisdom that Budd
shared as he tried to carve some kind of sane path through understanding and approaching a
totally bizarre field of weird yet consistent data -- coming from sincere yet traumatized people.

-- John S. Carpenter MSW, LCSW, Psychiatric Hypnotherapist and UFO Abductions
Researcher

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute


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2) New York City Psychologist and Hypnotherapist Dr. Jean Mundy
100, 117, 118, 119

Being a fellow New Yorker, I approached Budd at a couple events afterwards and in mid-1988 I
was referred by him to Dr. Jean Mundy, a NYC psychologist and hypnotherapist who was working
with Budd.

-- Harold Egeln, S.P.A.C.E. Founder and Facilitator

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute

A certified psychologist in New York State, she was a senior staff psychologist working with a
diagnostic team at St. Vincent's Hospital in Greenwich Village for 10 years and also an psychology
professor for 30 years at Long Island University. She specialized in hypnotherapy and projective
techniques, which came into play when she first learned about the alien abduction phenomena.

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS NYC NEWS --JANUARY-FEBRUARY 2009
DR. JEAN MUNDY, A LEADING N.Y. UFO ALIEN ABDUCTION RESEARCHER, DIES JAN. 14

URL: http://community-2.webtv.net/ASTROHAL/CLOSEENCOUNTERSNYC/page13.html

This led her into hypnotherapy work. But it was not until the mid-1980s when Budd Hopkins got
in touch with her (he lives in nearby Chelsea) and asked her help responding to possible contact
experiencers answering an "Omni Magazine" survey. "About 80 percent indicated they had close
encounters and I began working with some of them," Dr. Mundy said at a UFO conference.

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS NYC NEWS --JANUARY-FEBRUARY 2009
DR. JEAN MUNDY, A LEADING N.Y. UFO ALIEN ABDUCTION RESEARCHER, DIES JAN. 14

URL: http://community-2.webtv.net/ASTROHAL/CLOSEENCOUNTERSNYC/page13.html

This reporter, who first met her on referral by Budd Hopkins in July 1988, greatly benefitted
from the 25 sessions he had with her between 1988 and 1993, and from her support,
encouragement and friendship then and over the years.

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS NYC NEWS --JANUARY-FEBRUARY 2009
DR. JEAN MUNDY, A LEADING N.Y. UFO ALIEN ABDUCTION RESEARCHER, DIES JAN. 14

URL: http://community-2.webtv.net/ASTROHAL/CLOSEENCOUNTERSNYC/page13.html



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3) The late American Psychiatrist, Pulitzer Prize-winning biographer and
Harvard Medical School Professor Dr. John E. Mack
103


"Nothing in my then nearly forty years of familiarity with the field of psychiatry prepared me
for what Hopkins had to say. I was impressed with his warmth, sincerity, intelligence, and
caring for the people with whom he had been working. But more important than that were
the stories he told me from people all over the United States who had come forth to tell him
about their experiences after reading one of his books or articles or hearing him on
television....I have a great debt and profound respect for the pioneers in this field, like Budd
Hopkins, who have had the courage to investigate and report information that runs in the
face of our culture's consensus reality..."

-- (The Late) John E. Mack, M.D., Pulitzer Prize Winner: From Abduction: Human
Encounters With Aliens (1994)
Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute



4) Psychologist Dr. Don Donderi Ph.D.
97

In the absence of any professional recognition of the abduction phenomenon, Budd was among
the first competent people to investigate abductions and among the first to organize what
amount to support groups for abductees. Budd took it upon himself to report what was
happening to abductees and to listen sympathetically to the abductees themselves. He sought
professional expertise for the difficult job of interviewing abductees and then developed his own
interviewing skills because there were so few credentialed experts who could fit abduction cases
into their professional lives.

-- Don Donderi, Ph.D. Psychology

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute




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5) Experimental Psychologist Stuart Appelle Ph.D.
92

Budd Hopkins is recognized as a pioneer in UFO abduction research and investigation. His work,
which focused upon an extensive investigation of suspected abductees and his collaboration with
mental health professionals in recovering events for which victims had only partial conscious
memories must be commended.

His participation in the very important academic study on "Alien Symbols" reportedly observed by
abductees with Stuart Appelle (SUNY Brockport), and Tamara Lagrandeur/Don Donderi (McGill)
demonstrates that he has carefully collected evidence from suspected abductees that could be
evaluated scientifically. The multi-dimensional analysis clearly demonstrated that the
experimental group's findings were significantly different than that of the control group. The team
concluded that the consistency of symbols seen inside alien craft could possibly mean that the
reports are true.

-- Kathleen Marden, UFO & Abduction Researcher, Author and Lecturer

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins
URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute

FACT
Psychologist and Hypnotherapist Dr. Jean Mundy referred her patient Harold Egeln to Budd Hopkins.
If Hopkins worked alone, without supervision and was unwilling to accept any, how is it that Dr. Jean
Mundy knew enough about his work, specifically his hypnosis techniques that she was comfortable
enough to refer one of her patients to him? The only way she could have known was if she had
consulted with him which according to Harold Egeln is exactly what she did.
Update April 26, 2013
CORRECTION
The above statement I wrote is inaccurate. Psychologist and Hypnotherapist Dr. Jean Mundy did not
refer Harold Egeln to Budd Hopkins, Budd Hopkins referred Harold Egeln to Dr. Jean Mundy. The fact
that Hopkins was consulting, and referring abductees to Psychologists still proves the point that he did
not, as Rainey indicated, work almost exclusively alone, without supervision, and being unwilling to
accept any.
Budd Hopkins had contacted Dr. Jean Mundy to ask for her help in responding to abductees, from
then on they consulted with one another. In their consultations she learned about his work and his
hypnosis technique and became comfortable enough with him and his work to refer one of her
patients to him.
100, 117, 118, 119



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LIE #3
50

Page 5; Right Column; line 30 43, Page 6; Left Column, line 1 2,
The priests of high strangeness co-creation of the alien abduction phenomenon
By Carol Rainey

URL: www.paratopia.org/paratopia_magazine/mag_preview_final.pdf

FACT
Carol claims that:
"Linda falsely told other investigators of the case that she and Budd would be splitting it, 50/50"
50

Her evidence to back up this claim is a statement made by Richard Butler and Joseph Stefula in the
1993 document A Critique of Budd Hopkins case of the UFO Abduction of Linda [Cortile] by George
Hansen, Richard Butler and Joseph Stefula.
8

In that document Richard Butler and Joseph Stefula indicate that they met with Linda on February 1,
1992 and that during that meeting
"Linda also told us that she had an agreement with Budd Hopkins to split equally any profits from a
book on the case
40

I contacted the primary author of the critique document George Hansen and asked him whether
Richard Butler and Joseph Stefula had tape recorded their February 1, 1992 meeting with Linda.
George Hansen replied To best of my recollection, they did not tape record the meeting.
41


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Since they didnt tape record the meeting, they have no empirical evidence to prove that Linda ever
made such a statement. Essentially what they have is unsubstantiated hearsay. Nonetheless, the
statement they purported Linda to have made was published in their document despite no evidence
whatsoever existing to substantiate it.
41

(The original *.eml format copies of both the sent and received emails between Mr. Hansen and
myself are electronically available for empirical examination. Email Address blacked out.)



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Carols two claims that:
"Budd and Linda had shared in the advance money for the book"
50

"If Witnessed did well and sold to hollywood, that's where the real money would come from-and both
researcher and subject would share in that money, too (just not 50/50)."
50

are not substantiated by any evidence provided in her article. She presents nothing to corroborate the
validity of her assertions. Whether the statement is true or not what more do we have than her word
that it is so? Were she able to substantiate it what would it prove?
In Peter Robbins recent article Some Thoughts on Budd Hopkins he relates:
Almost every author of a book which has the potential to be made into a film would like to see this
outcome, myself very much included, and at a certain point in the development of Witnessed Budd
and Linda sat down and drew up an agreement which would govern her sharing in the profits of such
a venture, should it ever come to pass. That was it. To suggest that this somehow be interpreted as
the basis of a concocted abduction history is just not true and I am surprised that Carol resorts to such
an underhanded suggestion.
88

When Linda Cortile was asked about the matter of money at UFO Updates she stated:
Yes, in fact, my financial stake in Budd's book, "Witnessed," enabled me to fill a cavity at the dentist's
office. The rest of the dental work I had to pay for with my husbands' paycheck. Pretty good, after 8
years of my watching everyone else make money on MY case, huh?

It was good of Budd to offer me (which I did not want to accept) a fraction of what he was given. He
felt guilty about making money on my misery. He felt better when I accepted the token he offered.
However, whatever monies he's received, he made from his own sufferings regarding the unfolding
and the investigations of my case. It took Hopkins 5 years of hard work, to complete his book. I hope
he makes a MILLION!!

I appreciated his feelings more than I appreciated the token he offered, representing an expression of
his feelings. He has a heart and that's what matters to me.
120


There are more than a dozen articles, pro, con and debunker, concerning the Linda Cortile case listed
in the appendix of this paper. They are all worth perusing to get a better and more complete
understanding of the case, the individuals involved, as well as the antics of the initial three individuals
who critiqued the case.
146, 150, 151, 152, 153, 154, 155, 156, 157, 158, 159, 160, 161, 162


For the Linda Cortile case to be a hoax here is an approximate list of the individuals who would have
had to be in on it as collaborators and who would have to be paid in perpetuity by Linda for their
efforts and silence in order to maintain the hoax. (See the following three pages.)




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1) Johnny Cortile Linda's son who was nine years old at the height of her case. He provided complex
videotaped testimony regarding his being approached by the third man and the third man arranging
to give him an antique divers helmet. He also identified the third man from a random photo lineup
that Hopkins arranged and videotaped with the forethought for empirical examination. Johnny was
also present and personally affected when the whole family, and friends staying over, woke up in the
middle of the night bleeding from the right nostril over the Memorial Day weekend in May 1992. For
anyone who believes a child can be in on a successful hoax, even a simple one, remember the Balloon
boy hoax.
1


2) Steven Cortile Linda's husband who gave testimony to meeting and speaking with Richard in person
outside of St. Josephs church on Sunday February 24, 1991. Steven was also present and personally
affected when the whole family, and friends staying over, woke up in the middle of the night bleeding
from the right nostril over the Memorial Day weekend in May 1992.
1


3) Stephen Cortile Linda's other son who was a teenager at the time. He testified to meeting and
speaking with a man who was on the bus he took home from school. The man turned out to be
Richard in disguise. Richard wanted to speak with one of Lindas children to inquire if there was
anything special about his family. He disguised himself to get the information in a subtle fashion. The
information Stephen gave this man turned up in one of Richards letter to Budd Hopkins later on.
Stephen was also present and a participant when the whole family, and friends staying over, woke up
in the middle of the night bleeding from the right nostril over the Memorial Day weekend.)
1


4) "Janet Kimball" The woman on the Brooklyn bridge who witnessed the beginning of Linda's
November 30, 1989 UFO abduction. Budd Hopkins received letters from her, spoke with her by phone
and later met and spoke with her in person. He conducted a tape recorded interview with her when
he met with her in a restaurant.
1


5) Yancy Spence New York Post worker who witnessed Linda's November 30, 1989 UFO abduction. He
did not come forward until after 2000.
160, 161


6) Robert Bobby N. Yancy Spence's fellow New York Post worker who also witnessed the abduction
and the Rolls Royce and the procession of limousines parked along South Street underneath the
elevated FDR Drive during the November 30, 1989 UFO abduction.
160, 161


7) Steven Dunleavy A reporter and witness to the procession of limousines parked along South Street
under the elevated FDR Drive during the November 30, 1989 UFO abduction.
161


8) Carmela Linda's childhood friend who met and spoke at Richard on February 22, 1992.
1



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9) Joseph An outside law enforcement agent brought in by Robert Bigelow to guard Linda from Richard
and Dan. If Linda was hoaxing her case she would have to risk convincing an outsider to join her grand
hoax scheme, despite it possibly being a trap by the investigators to see if she was indeed a hoaxer.
1


10) Lisa Bayer Linda's niece and Podiatric Surgeon who took the X-ray of her head in November 1991.
1


11) "Erica" An abductee who witnessed the UFO at the time of Linda's November 30, 1989 UFO
abduction. If Linda was hoaxing her case wouldnt she want more independent witnesses, rather than
a fellow abductee?
1

12) Ear, Nose and Throat Specialist The doctor who examined Linda 14 years prior to her abduction and
concluded that the inside of her nose had a scar made by a surgical scalpel. If she was hoaxing her
case this means she would wait 14 years, for no reason at all, before she continued with other aspects
of her grand hoax scheme. Why?
1


13) "Marilyn Kilmer" A fellow abductee who shared an abduction experience with Linda, the Third man
and Linda's son Johnny. Under hypnosis she corroborated what Linda was wearing at the time of this
abduction incident despite never meeting Linda before.
1


Update April 26, 2013
CORRECTION
The above statement I wrote is inaccurate. Marilyn and Linda independently described what each
other were wearing during their shared abduction experience despite each other having no
knowledge of the others account at the time. Two independent, privately given accounts that
corroborated elements of the others account.

14) Cathy Turner Witness who was driving South over the FDR Drive at the approximate time of Lindas
November 30, 1989 UFO Abduction, along with her boyfriend.
1


15) Frank Turner Cathy Turner's nephew who by mere chance related an anecdote about what his aunt
saw. He related the anecdote on a computer forum with Budd Hopkins professor friend. This was
how Hopkins found Cathy Turner.
1


16) "Francesca" Fellow resident of Linda's building who was witness to the huge amount of lights in the
courtyard of the building at the approximate time, a several day window, of Lindas November 30,
1989 UFO abduction.
1


17) "Brian" Stephen Cortile's friend who was staying over and who woke up bleeding from the right
nostril along with Lindas entire family over the Memorial day weekend in May 1992.
1



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18) "Sue" "Brian's" mother who found "Brian's" shirt soaked with blood after the Memorial day
weekend in May 1992.
1


19) If Linda was hoaxing her case she would need a contact to obtain letters from the third man, so that
Linda would know exactly how he formats his letters, paragraphing, spacing, spelling, grammar, use of
language etc.
1


20) If Linda was hoaxing her case she would need a well connected, highly skilled forger to fake the
multitude of letters that Budd received from Richard, Dan and the Third Man.
1


21) If Linda was hoaxing her case she would need an actor to play the voice of Richard on the audio
recording obtained of him.
1


22) If Linda was hoaxing her case she would need an actor to play the voice of Dan on the audio recording
obtained of him.
1


23) Cardinal John O Connor He personally met and spoke with Linda about her experiences and
developed a friendship with her. He was in contact with Richard and the Third Man who shared their
abduction experiences with him by confessional. If Linda was hoaxing her case how likely is it that she
would be able to get repeated private audiences with the Cardinal?

24) Jay Sapir The reporter who met with the third man along with Budd Hopkins on November 12, 1993
at Chicagos OHare airport. He conducted a tape recorded interview with the third man and came
away convinced that the third man was indeed involved in Lindas case. If Linda was hoaxing her case
were supposed to believe she is now getting independent reporters to go along with her grand hoax
scheme?
154


To orchestrate a hoax with say 22 witnesses over a period of 21 years Linda would need to have
money to begin with. 22 people paid say $20 a week every week in perpetuity so that the hoax is
maintained would currently have cost Linda, at 21 years since 1989, $480,480. This is assuming of
course that her collaborators, who were committing the hoax presumably for quick profit, would be
willing to settle for $20 a week for their efforts. Not one of the detractors of Lindas case have ever
attempted to explore exactly what it would entail, or more to the point what it would cost for the
Linda Cortile case to be a hoax. The amount of money, which would be required initially and in the
long run, to pay off multiple collaborators in perpetuity alone is staggeringly improbable. Even with
the money, 22 conspirators would make any conspiracy prone to rapidly unraveling.

The irony with the Linda Cortile case is that because it is so vast and complicated were someone to
come forward and claim to have hoaxed it, or been in on the hoaxing it, the burden of proving exactly
how it was done would be on their shoulders alone. They would have prove and tie up all of the
unexplained and unorthodox aspects and details of Lindas case. It would indeed be a fascinating thing
to see someone come forward and try to explain and prove how it was all done if they professed it to
be a hoax, reminiscent of the hearsay laden and hole ridden Tommy Smith testimony in the Ed
Walters Gulf Breeze UFO case.
149


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The reason the Linda Cortile case is made the UFOlogical whipping boy of UFO Abduction cases is
because it is extremely complicated, confronting and next to Travis Waltons UFO case, one of the
most overt UFO abduction cases in history. The late Philip J. Klass gave his all trying to perpetuate the
myth that Travis Walton had hoaxed his case because they wanted to enact an act of god clause in
their logging contract. Klass never proved it, and Travis Waltons Forest Service Contracting Officer
Maurice Marchbanks signed an affidavit to the effect of how ridiculous and inapplicable a UFO
incident would be in trying to utilise an act of God clause.
147


Determining the validity of an attack on a UFO case requires one to ask only one question What can
they prove?A favourite, repeated, and overall effective, UFO case smearing tool is when the
attackers claim to have personally overheard devastatingly incriminating statements uttered by the
targets of their attacks that werent independently witnessed or empirically recorded by any means,
in other words hearsay. These hearsay statements luckily just happen to affirm the position of the
attacker. Once the hearsay statement is out there and presented as evidence the attacker
references their hearsay statement in the future. Repeated often enough an unproven hearsay
statement can embed itself into the middle of a topic. An example of this was a valiant effort by the
late Philip J. Klass to perpetuate the myth that Mayor Bursum of Socorro owned the land where a UFO
landing was purported to have occurred and that the Mayor had made up the whole story to increase
the value of the land. This was not the case as Delia Harris was the legal owner of the land at the time.
Nonetheless forty years on the baseless myth had limped along with the rest of the event.
148


In the UFO field, on the basis of unproven gossip alone, large amounts of individuals find themselves
ready to dump anything related to the whole area of the application of hypnosis and ready to dump
anyone and everyone who has had something bad stated about them. The question, since these
actions are done on the foundation of gossip alone, is why. One factor that does not help the accused
in these instances is that they are working in areas that are difficult for people to accept and put stock
in initially before anything bad has been circulated. It does not take a lot for the wary to become
suspicious and it does not take a lot for a scared person to become terrified.

The Pros and Cons of hypnosis is largely divided in the scientific community. The overall trend from
recent Scientific Journal articles is that individuals are no more susceptible to confabulation under
Hypnosis than they are unhypnotised.
137, 138, 139, 140
Dr. Benjamin Simon used hypnosis successfully to
treat soldiers suffering from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, in one case curing a man of hysterical
paralysis. The therapeutic value of hypnosis in the treatment of PTSD is well known. The dangers of
hypnosis cannot be ignored, in untrained or immoral hands there is potential for abuse and long term
damage. Whats most important in appraising the issue of hypnosis is that it is neither black or white,
there are negatives but there are positives and in the correct hands the positives outweigh the
negatives, just as the opposite is true.
182


Budd Hopkins taped all of his hypnosis sessions for empirical examination, he has had multiple
outsiders including, individuals from the medical community, sit in and witness him conducting a
hypnosis session. They did not find abuses or incompetence on his part. In Carol Raineys article she
mentions a purported abductee Dora that Hopkins spoke to and regressed on more than one
occasion. She categorises this person as someone who Hopkins abused, if that is true then why is
Carol alone in her allegation? Where is Dora? Why is she not speaking up and making allegations
against Hopkins and corroborating the effect of Carol Raineys charges? Minimal evidence, maximum
judgement.


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LIE #4

CAROL RAINEY: And Budd is not even interested in science, he doesn't even read science, nor does
he read psychology.
Spectrum Podcast: Carol Rainey & Tyler Kokjohn
URL:
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78&It
emid=211
179


FACT
Chapter Eight Hypnosis and the investigation of UFO Abduction Accounts, is a chapter that Budd
Hopkins wrote for David Jacobs book UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the borders of knowledge.
In this chapter Budd quotes the following statement from Alleged Alien Abductions: False Memories,
Hypnosis, and Fantasy Proneness, by Steven Lynn and Irving Kirsch which was published in the peer
reviewed journal Psychological Inquiry Vol. 7 (1996).
7,

74, 163


76

"Chapter Eight Hypnosis and the investigation of UFO Abduction Accounts"
by Budd Hopkins (Page 215 240)
Page 218; line 23 30,
UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the borders of knowledge
by David Jacobs
Hopkins then goes on to indicate that Steven Lynns and Irving Kirschs statement is supported by the
conclusions of a multiple recent experiments cited in reference 14. The peer reviewed journal papers
that details these experiments are cited in reference number 14 in the quote on the following page.


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78

Page 342 line 27 40 (including chapter title line, not including heading text),
UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the borders of knowledge by David Jacobs

Firstly, to determine if Hopkins was correct and that the studies he cited from peer reviewed journals
concurred with Steven Lynns and Irving Kirschs statement, I examined each of the articles.

The first article that Hopkins cited concurred with Steven Lynns and Irving Kirschs statement.


137
Page 389; Paragraph 1 (not including bold title text), Use of Hypnosis as an Aid to Eyewitness
Memory by John C. Yuille and N. Hope McEwan,
Journal of Applied Psychology 1985, Vol. 70, No. 2, 389-400.








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The second article that Hopkins cited did not concur with Steven Lynns and Irving Kirschs statement.

138

Page 1139; Paragraph 1 (not including bold title lines), Evaluating Hypnotic Memory Enhancement
(Hypermnesia and Reminiscence) Using Multitrial Forced Recall, By David F. Dinges, Wayne G.
Whitehouse, Emily Carota Orne, John W. Powell, and Martin T. Orne, Matthew H. Erdelyi,
Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, and Cognition 1992,
Vol. 18, No. 5, 1139-1147.


The third article that Hopkins cited concurred with Steven Lynns and Irving Kirschs statement.
139

Page 271; Paragraph 1 (not including bold title lines) "Are Hypnotically Induced Pseudomemories
Resistant to Cross-Examination?"by N.Spanos, M.Gwynn, S.Comer,W.Baltruweit, and M.deGroh,
Law and Human Behavior, Vol. 13, No. 3 (1989), Page 271 89.





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The fourth article that Hopkins cited concurred with Steven Lynns and Irving Kirschs statement.

140

Page 1; Paragraph 1 (not including bold title lines) "Hypnotic Hypermnesia: Enhanced Memory
Accessibility or Report Bias?"by W.Whitehouse,D.Dinges, E.Orne, and M.Orne,
Journal of Abnormal Psychology (1988) Vol. 97, No.3, 289-95.

Three out of four of Hopkins citations concurred with Steven Lynns and Irving Kirschs statement. In
Lynns and Kirschs peer reviewed journal article Alleged Alien Abductions: False Memories,
Hypnosis, and Fantasy Proneness they made their statement, that Hopkins quoted, to cover the
trend of the findings of multiple hypnosis experiments. They evaluated a series of hypnosis
experiments rather than focusing on the individual successes or failures of any singular experiment as
the overall trend is more valuable. One of the hypnosis experiments that they evaluated and built
their statement on was Evaluating Hypnotic Memory Enhancement (Hypermnesia and Reminiscence)
Using Multitrial Forced Recall By David F. Dinges, Wayne G. Whitehouse, Emily Carota Orne, John W.
Powell, Martin T. Orne and Matthew H. Erdelyi
138
. This experiment was the one that did not concur
with Lynn and Kirschs statement that Hopkins quoted. Taking into consideration that Lynn and
Kirschs statement was made to cover the trend of the findings of multiple hypnosis experiments it is
an understandable to think that it applied to the experiments in all four articles, especially since all
four of those articles were cited as deliberating factors in the creation of Lynns and Kirschs
statement and article.
In the chapter that Hopkins wrote he quoted data from multiple peer reviewed journals that included
Psychological Inquiry, the Journal of applied Psychology, Law and Human Behavior, the Journal
of Abnormal Psychology and the Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory and
Cognition
78
. An example of one of the many articles that Hopkins quoted data from is Alleged Alien
Abductions: False Memories, Hypnosis, and Fantasy Proneness, by Steven Lynn and Irving Kirsch,
Psychological Inquiry Vol. 7 (1996). While its possible a researcher may have drawn his attention to it
Hopkins would have had to read it himself before he decided to quote it and publish it in his work. In
short, Hopkins could not have written and published a chapter of work that quotes from multiple peer
reviewed Psychology journals without at some point, on purpose or by accident, reading the material
he was quoting from. Hopkins read Multiple peer reviewed Psychology journals, which makes Carol
Raineys statement a lie.

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LIE #5

CAROL RAINEY: Yes. And I did a bit more detective work on my own as well.

MALE SPEAKER#1: Oh, did you find out anything interesting.

CAROL RAINEY: Yes, but you'll have to wait until the documentary comes out to hear it.

MALE SPEAKER#1: There you go. But whatever, whatever investigation that he had done, uh like
in footwork um, the information that he had gotten was it ever backed up anybody else?

CAROL RAINEY: Um depends what you mean I, you know um. Uh if he actually, if you're asking,
if he actually met the Richard, the Dan, the, the two government agents or if he met the third
man um no he didn't. He got letters, typed letters from all of those people. He did meet with
the um I have the audio recording the pretty remarkable meeting with the woman, he calls the
woman on the bridge. And he did meet with her at a restaurant.

MALE SPEAKER#1: Okay. Was she connected to Linda at all?

CAROL RAINEY: Well, that's what you'll have to find out?

MALE SPEAKER#1: Okay. Or she was Linda?

CAROL RAINEY: No, no. Actually she wasn't.

Spectrum Podcast: Carol Rainey & Tyler Kokjohn
URL:
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78
&Itemid=211
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FACT
Budd Hopkins met with the Third man at Chicagos OHare Airport along with reporter Jay Sapir on
November 12, 1993. Hopkins meeting with the third man took up an entire chapter in his book
Witnessed, Chapter 32 The Meeting at O'Hare (Page 367 375). It is puzzling that Carol would
state that Budd had never met the third man given that fact. It is especially puzzling given that she
was the one who claimed to have edited Hopkinss book Witnessed.
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CAROL RAINEY: I'm trying to think, I think that was happening while we were writing it, while I was
writing my part which took two years longer than Budd took. He is a quite pro at writing the stuff, he's
very fast. And I'm not quite as fast, and I do a lot more research. So I took a lot longer and I think this
was going on that morelot of things going on while I was still doing some writing.

Paratopia Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn

URL: http://www.paratopia.org
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FACT
Carol demonstrated that she was not familiar with basic aspects of Linda Cortiles case which Budd
Hopkins detailed in Witnessed. An example of this is her not knowing that Hopkins met with the third
man in person, despite a whole chapter in Witnessed (Chapter 32 The Meeting at O'Hare (Page
367 375) ) being dedicated to that encounter.
She also demonstrated on two occasions that she wasnt precisely sure how many years Hopkins
observed and studied hypnosis before he began practicing it himself.
She insisted that Hopkins did not read anything about Psychology despite Hopkins writing a chapter
for David Jacobs book ("Chapter Eight Hypnosis and the investigation of UFO Abduction Accounts"
by Budd Hopkins, Page 215 240 UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the borders of knowledge by
David Jacobs) in which Hopkins quoted data on hypnosis from multiple peer reviewed Psychology
journals. For Carol to purport herself as someone who is thorough in their research she missed some
obvious, easily accessible facts about the matters she is discussing.
1, 18, 19, 20, 21, 154, 76, 78











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LIE #7
MALE SPEAKER#1: Well, let's just think, I think people do, I mean, it seems likenow again, well most
of the sort of reaction to this has been really positive at least behind the scenes, but when I visit
forums where they decide to sort of pile, none of their criticisms make sense. And one of them is that
well, wewe've got it out for Jacobs and Hopkins. Weve got it out for these guys and its like no, we
have it out for the bad research, we have it out for that there theyre hurting other human beings and
everyone seems to be trying to protect and ideology over humans like, what do youyes, go ahead,
Im sorry.

Paratopia Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn

URL: http://www.paratopia.org
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FACT
What evidence have Carol Rainey, Jeff Ritzmann and Jeremy Vaeni presented to indicate that Budd
Hopkins has been hurting people? Rainey speaks of an abductee called Dora who Carol personally
perceived as being hurt by Hopkins work with her. Rainey did not present any evidence of Dora
making any statements or allegations against Hopkins. Dora is absent from Carols allegations in this
matter and has provided no corroborative evidence to substantiate the claims that Carol is leveling
against Hopkins. The complete facts in the Emma Woods case, as stated earlier, are not all in yet, only
premature judgements founded on the findings of incomplete evidence. Even Tyler Kokjohn, the
professor of Microbiology that released an article alongside Carol Rainey, admits that Hopkins
engaged in no physically invasive medical procedures and worked with consenting adults.
126
What
is clear from the Paratopia podcasts concerning Emma Woods, Budd Hopkins and David Jacobs
164
, is
that they have already passed judgement, despite all the facts not being in yet, and that judgement is
that Emma Woods is telling the truth and is a victim of David Jacobs, and that since Budd Hopkins is a
friend of and supporting David Jacobs, that Hopkins and his work is invalid. Had the individuals at
Paratopia reached these conclusions and judgements on the basis of all the evidence then I would
have no problem, were all the facts in I would respect their decision because at the very least they
had arrived at their decision from a solid and complete foundation of evidence. Since they have leapt
to their conclusion (Hopkins bad, Jacobs bad, Emma right, Carol right) so prematurely it indicates an
enthusiasm and desire for one specific conclusion over another. The conclusion that they are
enthusiastic about just happens to be more scandalous and controversial, two factors that are very
welcome in a fledgling entertainment program. Since Rainey is making the allegation that Budd
Hopkins has abused the alien abductees who hes worked with it is on her shoulders alone to produce
such an alien abductee who was abused by Budd Hopkins. Someone who can attest to and
corroborate Raineys allegations of abuse.



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LIE #8
JEFF: Yeah. That's exactly. You know one other things that I think I had mentioned on the last show is
that, we're not only going up against this notion of hypnosis, alien abduction in the common scenario
that has been put forth over decades now. You're also talking about and Tyler, I'm going to assume
this probably happened in science as well as that, we're actually pointing out a corner stone because
this is just above alien abduction in that scenario. It's about everything has been built on top of that
foundation that were finding out is built on sand. And so the building is not stable to begin with. So
it's not only going against the beliefs something like Carol said, and the commonality of the notion of,
okay, here what's going on because we got all these data compiled from hypnosis, but also everything
has been built upon that for years now. I mean go out there, read the message board. So I mean that's
exactly what the problem is.

Paratopia Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn

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FACT
Allegations and hearsay dont amount to finding out facts. What single fact have they presented to
prove that as a whole hypnosis has no value? What single fact have they presented to prove that
everything the alien abduction phenomenon has been built upon has no value? Antonio Villas Boas, a
Brazilian farmer who was riding a tractor at the time of his October 16, 1957 alien abduction reported
a lurid sexually reproductive based encounter during his abduction. His abduction first became public
knowledge in 1958. APRO (a defunct American UFO group) received a report about this incident as
early as 1958.
181
The sexual reproduction aspect of the Alien abduction phenomenon (evident in the
Antonio Villas Boas case of 1957) and the pregnancy experimentation aspect (evident in the Barney
and Betty Hill case
135
) were two documented and established features of the alien abduction
phenomenon long before Hopkins began his work investigating Alien Abduction, they were not details
conjured up by him. The missing time element of abduction appeared as early as the Barney and Betty
Hill case. As for the media culture being alleged to be responsible in crafting the alien abduction cases,
where was a TV show or film that had a missing time element due to alien abduction prior to the
Barney and Betty Hill case?
36
Where was the TV show or film that showed aliens giving abductees
rectal probes prior to the Barney and Betty Hill case?
27
Scott O. Lilienfeld, a professor of Psychology,
was a guest on Paratopia and shared his qualified views on the subject of hypnosis. Professor
Lilienfeld acknowledges that hypnosis can produce false memories but he also acknowledges that
accurate memories can be retrieved also. With the potential for the retrieval of accurate memories
through hypnosis being acknowledged, but not endorsed, by Professor Lilienfeld there is every reason
to continue using and further refining the study and use of hypnosis in the field of memory retrieval.
Professor Lilienfelds conclusions on hypnosis were objective, informed, scientific and respectable and
he had a healthy curiosity for any new data that might become available on the subject. Professor
Lilienfeld has not personally witnessed firsthand Budd Hopkins conduct a hypnotic regression with an
abductee.
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LIE #9

MALE SPEAKER#1: But what happened in cases that they turned out to be fakes or not...

MALE SPEAKER#2: Are you asking about a specific case, Tom?

MALE SPEAKER#1: No, no just in general. Like when they would -- with something and they would find
out or maybe wasn't what it was supposed to be or what they thought it would?

CAROL RAINEY: It depends how far in. And the Jim Mortellaro case for example and the Linda case,
Budd went out on and was presenting these cases at conferences very early on in to the research. And
once you stand up in front of field class and various other people and say that this is what you believe,
this is what has happened, it's not just what you believe. This is what the data shows you. It seems to
me for certain people as very, very hard to back down. And that's very much...

Spectrum Podcast: Carol Rainey & Tyler Kokjohn

URL:
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78&Itemi
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FACT
Carol indicates that the Linda Cortile case is a fake, on what evidence? In Carols article The priests of
high strangeness co-creation of the alien abduction phenomenon she indicated that Budd told her
after he finished a phone conversation with Linda that That was Linda pretending to be her cousin
Connie
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(See HEARSAY #2), Carol also indicated that Linda received a phone call from an admirer
while at Carols house and that Linda made up a family related excuse so she didnt have to go and
have coffee with this individual. A hearsay quip regarding a conversation that Carol herself did not
listen to and Linda trying to politely get out of going out for coffee with someone. On these pieces of
trivia were expected to classify Lindas case a hoax? Were supposed to put her in the same category
as Jim Mortellaro? (See LIE #3 for some facts about Lindas case and some examples of what it would
require for her case to be a hoax.)









CHAPTER TWO
THE ASSUMPTIONS
ASSUMPTIONS
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ASSUMPTION #1


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FACT

The assumption that it is simple for an abductee to discretely bring something back from one of their
experiences does not take into account three reported factors of alien abduction experiences that
hinder the retrieval of forensic evidence from an alien abduction.

1) The lack of personal, bodily control, in some cases outright physical paralysis, that abductees
report experiencing during their abductions.
11, 12, 34, 38, 39


2) Abductees report being undressed and redressed by their captors during their abductions.
11,

13, 14, 15, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 35


3) Abductees not always being immediately aware afterwards that an abduction incident has
even taken place.
10, 17, 36, 37, 33


Of these three factors the third is the one that most hinders the ability to retrieve forensic evidence
from an alien abduction experience. The abductees body after an abduction incident is a crime scene,
if they are not aware that an abduction has even taken place they continue on with their lives. Not
being immediately aware opens up potentially retrievable forensic evidence to contamination factors
such as showering, house cleaning, car cleaning, moving. A day, even a few hours, can make all the
difference in what can be potentially retrieved as uncontaminated forensic evidence.




ASSUMPTIONS
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Three UFO Abduction cases that demonstrate these three factors are reported below as follows:

1) In the Barney and Betty Hill abduction case both Barney and Betty reported being undressed
and redressed, being under control and unable to resist their captors and immediately after
the abduction neither Barney or Betty were aware that an abduction had even taken place.
22,
23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 36, 79, 116, 39


2) In the Allagash abduction case all four men reported being undressed and redressed, being
under control and unable to resist their captors and immediately after the abduction all four
men were unaware that an abduction had even taken place.
28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35


3) In the Linda Cortile abduction case Linda reported being undressed and redressed, being
under control and unable to resist her captors. Richard, Dan and the third man did not initially
remember their November 30, 1989 abduction.
10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17


These three factors are reported and documented features of alien abduction cases, they are not
baseless excuses conjured up by researchers to deflect the issue of obtaining physical evidence from
abduction scenarios. If physical, forensic and genetic evidence is to be obtained from alien abduction
experiences these three factors need to be understood and taken into the equation. There is nothing
simple about obtaining evidence from these cases.









CHAPTER THREE
THE INSULTS


INSULTS CONTAINED IN RAINEYS ARTICLE
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Insult One


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Note
How does Carol Raineys statement about Budd Hopkins art career relate to the body of her
allegations against him? How does it advance the legitimacy of her arguments? What point does her
statement serve except to belittle his art career?


Insult Two

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Note
Carol describes her perceptions of Lindas lifestyle, which is fine to set a context, but then Carol
proceeds to pass judgement on it in a derogatory fashion indicating that were she to live a life such as
Lindas it would drive her to suicide. What purpose do such personal, nasty judgements serve in a
purported insiders objective appraisal of the alien abduction phenomenon?
INSULTS CONTAINED IN RAINEYS ARTICLE
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Insult Three

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Note
Another judgement and opinion passed. Where is the objective empirical evidence to establish that
the Ufologists in question possess the egos she purports them to have? What does the baseless
statement provide other than an opinion that the Ufologists in question have egos which are
dependent on providing the goods in their work?


Insult Four


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Note
An appeal from the author about how the audience should perceive the statements and allegations
contained in their work. Why not provide the evidence to demonstrate that Hopkins and Jacobs offer
nothing but proclamations? Why insist the audience believe instead of proving it to them?

INSULTS CONTAINED IN RAINEYS ARTICLE
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Insult Five
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Note
Since Carol Rainey considers and couches the alien abduction phenomenon as a genre of performance
art how sincere can her concerns be for the purported alien abductee Emma Woods? Her statement
indicates that she perceives alien abductees to be acting, in essence lying, with dramatic flair, about
what they are reporting. How is Emma supposed to feel about that, being perceived as an actor? Not
all the facts are in on the Emma Woods matter, therefore there can be no accurate judgement at this
point. Why would Carol have concerns about an individual who she essentially did not believe or trust
in regards to the individuals claims about alien abduction? Since Carol defines the alien abduction
phenomenon as a genre of performance art how are we to believe that she is genuinely interested in
assisting those affected by the phenomenon? How are we to believe that she wants to do anything
but discredit it?







CHAPTER FOUR
THE HEARSAYS
THE HEARSAY
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HEARSAY #1

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URL: www.paratopia.org/paratopia_magazine/mag_preview_final.pdf
FACT
This is a regurgitation of a hearsay argument from the Hansen/Stefula/Butler critique of the Linda
Cortile case. They were unable to prove Linda had ever made such a statement because Stefula and
Butler did not tape record their February 1, 1992 interview with Linda where they alleged she stated it
(See The February 1, 1992 Meeting Between Linda, Stefula and Butler).
Rainey makes no attempt to prove this assertion, she does not reference any empirical evidence to
prove that any of what she stated in the above quote took place. The accusation is as much hearsay
now as when it was first unjustly hurled against Linda in the Hansen/Stefula/Butler critique of the
Linda Cortile case.


THE HEARSAY
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A Critique of Budd Hopkins Case of the UFO Abduction of Linda [Cortile]
by Joseph J. Stefula, Richard D. Butler, and George P. Hansen

THE FEBRUARY 1, 1992 MEETING BETWEEN LINDA, STEFULA AND BUTLER
An important fact concerning the February 1, 1992 meeting between Linda, Stefula and Butler needs
to be addressed. Substantiation of Lindas statements to Stefula and Butler during the February 1,
1992 meeting depends entirely upon whether an independent, empirical record (e.g. audio or video
tape recording) was kept of that meeting. No indication, by statement or implication, is provided
anywhere in the critique document if an independent, empirical record was kept of that meeting.
I was able to contact George Hansen (primary author of the critique document) through email and
ask him some questions about the critique document and the investigation that led to its comprisal.
The issue of whether the February 1, 1992 meeting between Linda, Stefula and Butler was tape
recorded was the subject of one such email between Mr. Hansen and myself (see the following page).
When asked whether the February 1, 1992 meeting between Linda, Stefula and Butler was tape
recorded Mr. Hansen stated:
To the best of my recollection, they did not tape record the meeting.
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Without some form of empirical evidence (e.g. audio or video tape recording) to provide independent
corroboration of Lindas statements during her February 1, 1992 meeting with Butler and Stefula, any
claims made in the critique document about what Linda said during that meeting cannot be proven
and fall into the information category of hearsay.

THE HEARSAY
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(The original *.eml format copies of both the sent and received emails between Mr. Hansen and
myself are electronically available for empirical examination. Email Address blacked out.)

THE HEARSAY
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HEARSAY #2

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FACT
Budd answered the phone, Carol did not. Budd had the phone conversation with Linda, Carol did not.
Depending on precisely what was said during Budd and Lindas phone conversation, the conversation
that Carol did not hear, what Budd remarked to Carol after the phone call is open to interpretation.
Carol did not personally witness Linda trying to trick Budd into thinking he was talking with Lindas
cousin Connie. Carol only witnessed what Budd remarked to her after the phone call and without
empirical evidence to substantiate and verify what was stated during that phone call Budds remark is
without a context. Essentially what Carol is saying is that she heard that Budd said he heard that Linda
was pretending to be her cousin during a phone call. Without empirical evidence to substantiate and
verify what was stated during the phone conversation between Linda and Budd, Carols claim only
constitutes hearsay.
THE HEARSAY
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FACT
Dan disappeared in an unknown but presumed severe fashion in February 1992. Richard was one of
the many men who took him down. Richard did this to protect Linda. Keeping Dan out of Lindas life
was Richards priority. Richard was in love with Linda and had rescued her from Dan after Dan
kidnapped and nearly killed her on one occasion. Were Dan to have survived after being taken down
by Richard and the other agents, at the very least he and Richard were no longer friends. Given that
the whole purpose of Richard and the agents taking Dan down was to keep Linda safe from him, there
is no way that Richard would ever let Dan get anywhere near Linda again after February 22, 1992, let
alone help Dan to kidnap her.
1

If Carol has footage of Linda stating that Richard and Dan came to kidnap her again in 1996 then I say
provide the unedited piece of footage for public empirical examination, its a compelling piece of
evidence against Linda and her case if it does exist. Its absence amongst the other evidence absent to
substantiate Carol Raineys allegations against Linda Cortile and Budd Hopkins is indicative of Carol
appealing to the appearances of duplicity rather than demonstrating the existence of it. That and
Carols avoidance of acknowledging and satisfactorily tying up the multitudes of difficult and
anomalous loose ends required to demonstrate and prove exactly how Lindas case could have been
hoaxed. Some examples of these mysterious and anomalous loose end questions that would need to
be addressed and answered would include the following:
1) Where did all the money come from to finance and pay all the people involved the hoax?
1

2) How did Linda obtain the 100% complicity and collaboration from over twenty people in the case,
some who were brought into the case by outsiders to test its veracity?
1

3) Why wasnt the hoax simpler to avoid possible slip ups?
1

4) Why would Linda risk being found a hoaxer by identifying Dan from a photo obtained from
footage taken in the United Nations? He could have been found and identified and spoken to.
1

5) Why would Linda make her children, one under the age of ten, memorise complicated scenarios
to convey to researchers, this includes Lindas son Johnny being given the Divers helmet by the
Third man as a gift and her other son Stephen describing being interrogated by what appeared to
be Richard in disguise on the bus.
1

6) Why didnt Linda get more value from her collaborators, she would have to pay Frank Turner in
perpetuity just for him to accidentally relay a second hand account of his aunts sighting to a
friend of Budd Hopkins over the computer. Why wouldnt Linda get the most value for her money
and make Frank Turner say a firsthand witness himself?
1

7) If Linda was the orchestrator how did she pass the multiple Psychological exams given to her by
skeptical outsiders?
1

8) How come not one of the people Linda involved in her hoax has blown the whistle?
1

9) How did Linda obtain the complicity of outsiders brought into the case, such as the late Cardinal
John O Connor, Reporter Jay Sapir, Joseph the bodyguard hired by Robert Bigelow?
1

10) Why didnt Linda employ all of her witnesses at the height of her case? Yancy Spence and Bobby
did not come forward till after 2000, roughly 10 years after the main events of Lindas case.
1

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HEARSAY #3
MALE SPEAKER#1: Now what do you think was the major motivation on either one of them
between Budd and Dr. Jacobs, ultimately what was their motivation?
CAROL RAINEY: Oh, I don't really like to go into that territory. It means I can read their minds, but I
guess if you've been married to someone for 10 years, you have a pretty good idea of what moves
them. I think they are both and I do know David. I think they are both have gotten to the point the
involvement in this paranormal research, where they are completely convinced that the reality
that in my opinion, they've partially constructed. There is horrific alien invasion, the secret alien
invasion via the hybridization. They are really convinced this is happening. I was on the cape with
Jacobs' family had rented a house, several doors down from the place where we usually stay in the
summer. And over dinner one night, just I suddenly in a pause in the conversation with Dave's wife
I heard Dave Jacobs say, Budd, you and I are the only people on the planet who know what's going
on. And my mouth dropped open and I sort of blurted out, David, that's a little bit of a dangerous
way to think, isn't it? You are the only people on the planet and that was not well received.
MALE SPEAKER#1: Right. Little scary really. And that was talking behind the scenes, there was no
interviewer, there's no crowd, there's no...
CAROL RAINEY: No, no.
MALE SPEAKER#1: This is personally at the dinner table just...
CAROL RAINEY: Absolutely.
MALE SPEAKER#1: So they believed it, 100%.
CAROL RAINEY: They do.
MALE SPEAKER#1: They both believe it
CAROL RAINEY: Yes, they do. Yeah. Somebody asked me that once. So when they get off the
podium and turn away, are these guys' fakes and they start laughing at these people. No, not at all.
They do believe what they are doing.
Spectrum Podcast: Carol Rainey & Tyler Kokjohn
URL:
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78&It
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FACT
Carol presents no evidence to substantiate the substance of this conversation. No corroborating
witnesses, no tape recording, no documentation. Nothing but her word that it took place. The
purpose of this hearsay statement? To attempt to demonstrate that Jacobs and Hopkins are in sync on
their views regarding the alien abduction despite documentation existing to demonstrate that just the
opposite is true. For example:

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MUFON UFO Journal, Number 363, July 1998.
(Many thanks to Gildas Bourdais for pointing out the location of the above statement at his post
at UFOUpdates)
URL: http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2011/feb/m17-007.shtml







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HEARSAY #4
MALE SPEAKER#1: What do you think that Jacobs and Hopkins often say that you need to be
hypnotized or that people don't remember a lot outright that's why they need to hypnotized. They
don't trust people who haven't been hypnotized. That sort of thing if the letters don't reflect that.

CAROL RAINEY: I don't think they say that actually. That --

MALE SPEAKER#1: Ive heard them say that.

MALE SPEAKER#3: Yeah.

CAROL RAINEY: I haven't heard Budd say he doesn't trust someone who hasn't been hypnotized.

MALE SPEAKER#1: Yeah. Maybe that's more Jacobs than Budd.

Paratopia Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn

URL: http://www.paratopia.org
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FACT
Elicitation and perpetration of hearsay statements by Paratopia. To Carols credit she did not respond
or participate in their elicitation.

HEARSAY #5



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THE HEARSAY
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FACT
Carol has not presented any evidence to confirm and corroborate any aspects of the above incident.
She does not present the answering machine recordings, she does not present a witness who was
there to corroborate what occurred. At least four answering machine messages are discussed yet no
indication is given whether Carol has any of them in her possession and is willing to present them
publicly to solidify her account nor are any of the messages presented here in transcript form. What
we have to go on in regards to this whole sequence of text is Carols word that it occurred this way so
unfortunately, in terms of evidence, this whole sequence of text from Carols article constitutes
hearsay nothing more. Carol knew that in publicly releasing her article that there was a good chance
that her detractors would call her credibility into question. To avoid that problem all she needed to do
was to present empirical evidence of her arguments, that way her credibility would play no part in her
arguments. The predominance of hearsay in the majority of her work does not bode well for the
credibility of her arguments because:
1) We are relying on her word alone to accept her version of events.
2) Quality of character is a factor in determining whether one individual believes another individuals
story. In short if she can prove these things, then fine, release the evidence and let the world
definitively know. If she cannot prove it then acknowledge that people will be reluctant to believe
her.






CHAPTER FIVE
THE CONTRADICTIONS

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CONTRADICTION #1

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FACT

Carol indicates that Budd Hopkins works alone, without supervision and is unwilling to accept any.
She then indicates that she found a letter to Budd from a therapist and consulting psychiatrist who
performed the MMPI-2 tests on Dora. If Hopkins works alone, without supervision and is unwilling
to accept any then why is he, by Carols own admission, consulting with a psychiatrist about the
mental wellbeing of one of his possible abductees?

Carol also indicates that "A bit of comparative religion, anthropology, and folklore under the belt
wouldn't hurt, either, in dealing with these difficult-to-interpret human experiences."
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If she is truly
conscious of the need to protect human subjects, specifically the ones working with Hopkins about
their alien abduction experiences, then how is introducing religion, anthropology and folklore into the
situation going to help the individual? Introducing information to an individual you are trying to
retrieve accurate information from gives them material, directly or indirectly, to build with. This
constitutes contamination. Introducing information from such topics into a hypnotic regression
session would greatly exacerbate the potential for confabulation and the creation of false memories,
hurting the human subject.

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CONTRADICTION #2

MALE SPEAKER#1: But how was he performing in hypnotherapy or hypnosis I should say to these
individuals without at least understanding what hypnosis is supposed to be?
CAROL RAINEY: He observed, I think, for the first five years, he worked under three different
psychiatrists who did hypnosis, and Budd was a person sitting in, often asking questions and he
learned from observing. And I actually think he is very good at getting people into that state. I
think he even goes into a very relaxed state himself.
Spectrum Podcast: Carol Rainey & Tyler Kokjohn
URL:
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78&It
emid=211
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CAROL RAINEY: He worked with two different psychotherapists, Bob Naiman and Matt and a really
strange woman Rima Laibow, they're all psychiatrists I believe all three of them are. And he observed
them, they did all of the hypnosis with the people he brought to them in the beginning. The first, I
don't even remember how many years, but it might have been seven, eight. I think people can. I mean
I know how to make films, I never took a film of course, you can make, you can do, you can learn
these things.

Paratopia Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn

URL: http://www.paratopia.org
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FACT
In her first interview Paratopia Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn, which aired on
January 29, 2011, Carol was questioned regarding Hopkins and hypnosis. In regards to how long she
thought Budd Hopkins observed hypnosis without practicing it she stated I don't even remember how
many years, but it might have been seven, eight.
164, 167

In her second interview Spectrum Podcast: Carol Rainey & Tyler Kokjohn, which aired on February 8,
2011, she was questioned again on the matter. In regards to how long she thought Budd Hopkins
observed hypnosis without practicing it she stated He observed, I think, for the first five years, he
worked under three different psychiatrists who did hypnosis, and Budd was a person sitting in, often
asking questions and he learned from observing.
172, 174

Not a particularly damning contradiction because, as Carol indicated in her initial interview Paratopia
Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn, she did not remember how many years it was. What
is telling about this is that in the ten days between her first interview and her second interview,
despite being uncertain about a key piece of information (how long did Budd Hopkins observe and
study hypnosis before he practiced it himself) she didnt try to find out for sure exactly how long Budd
Hopkins observed and studied hypnosis before practicing it himself. My conclusion, she didnt care.







CHAPTER SIX
THE SUGGESTIONS

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According to Ralph D. Casey, Professor, School of Journalism, University of Minnesota and author of
the G.I. Roundtable What is Propaganda pamphlet published and approved by the American
Historical Association in 1944, an important tool of propaganda is suggestion. In his words:
The propagandist tries to stimulate others to accept without challenge his own assertions, or to act
as he wants them to do. The idea of using suggestion or stimulation as a propaganda device is that it
will lead a public to accept a proposition even though there are not logical grounds for accepting it.
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Suggestion has the ability to, directly or indirectly, distort an individuals capacity to accurately
determine what has occurred in a given set of circumstances. Inject a suggestion into a collection of
facts and one of two things occurs, the suggestion leads you towards the truth or it leads you directly
away from it. Were an individual to use suggestion as their compass they would have as much chance
of reaching the truth as they would if they navigated by flipping a coin. Suggestions add no facts to a
given set of circumstances. Nonetheless consideration is required before agreeing or disagreeing with
the direction they point an individual in.

Below is a hypothetical example of how suggestion has the ability to distort an individuals capacity to
accurately determine what has a occurred in a given set of circumstances.

HYPOTHETICAL EXAMPLE

The set of circumstances

Two Homicide detectives arrive at a house and inside they find Person A lying dead at the bottom of
a staircase. At the top of the staircase there is a broken mirror, scratch marks on the walls and framed
pictures that have fallen off the walls. Person A has a dark substance under their fingernails and a
facial contusion that is unlikely to have been caused by the fall on the staircase. Person B is the only
other person in the house and they are intoxicated with alcohol and smoking cigarettes while sitting
quietly in the basement. Person B has a small, fresh, sharp cut between the thumb and index finger
on their right hand and is staring vacantly at the floor.

Inject a suggestion into that set of circumstances

One Homicide detective quietly suggests to the other detective that there must have been a
break in.

The other Homicide detective quietly suggests that Person B killed Person A.

Two suggestions formed on identical circumstances that lead to two different places. The suggestions
themselves prove nothing, they only provide possible directions in which to work along. The end of
either suggestion is either a solution or a problem. While suggestions can lead the way, the facts will
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SUGGESTION #1
MALE SPEAKER#2: All right. I have a question for Carol. Carol, do you think that the abduction
researchers would be open to this sort of information or what are you feeling on that?

CAROL RAINEY: Well, I think they would love to have that. But I would tell you right now, what they
will say is, that's all very well and good, but the aliens have a way of overwriting all of our impulses,
our instincts they control telepathically, what these women will be able to do when they come back
and what they'll be able to bring back with them, which means nothing.

MALE SPEAKER#2: So whether that's true or not, it closes the loop.

CAROL RAINEY: Yeah, well.

MALE SPEAKER#2: It means okay, well, sorry, you can't do that. That won't work.

CAROL RAINEY: Yes. Yes.

DR. TYLER KOKJOHN: Be careful with that argument though.

MALE SPEAKER#1: Yeah. But these were the type of excuses that we've had all along was in that?

DR. TYLER KOKJOHN: Oh, yeah. Yeah.

CAROL RAINEY: You'll still get that.

DR. TYLER KOKJOHN: I don't doubt that at all. But if you want to sort of do recursion back on that,
then you'd say, well, hey, what's the deal with the screen memory and how come they're permeable
sometimes and how can some people recall without prompting. You can kind of wipe yourself out of
your position of any knowledge. If you get too radical about what they won't allow, I think we have to
start with the supervision that this is an interesting phenomenon, okay, don't deny the phenomenon,
I do have grave questions about some of the hypothesis and explanations.

Spectrum Podcast: Carol Rainey & Tyler Kokjohn

URL:
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78&Itemi
d=211
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FACT
The suggestion and inference in this quote is that UFO researchers are responsible for the difficulties
in obtaining physical and forensic evidence from alien abduction experiences and make excuses rather
than provide evidenced reasons for the problems associated with physical and forensic evidence
retrieval. (SEE ASSUMPTION #1 to evaluate the truth of their position on this)



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SUGGESTION #2

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FACT
Carols suggestion here is that given Lindas case could potentially become a profitable movie that
might influence Linda. Ive stated it before and Ill state it again, Linda would need money to fake her
case, roughly $480,000 to begin with and further funds onward depending on how long she wished to
perpetuate it. If all the participants involved agreed to being paid $20 a week in perpetuity for their
roles, a ridiculously low amount to demonstrate that even if her alleged collaborators were paid tiny
amounts for their parts it would still cost an enormous amount of money. (SEE LIE #3)
















CHAPTER SEVEN
MISCELLANEOUS FACTS

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FACT

The policy that details and determine whether an IRB review is required for research is the Code of
Federal Regulations Title 45 Public Welfare Department of Health and Human Services Part 46
Protection of Human Subjects Revised January 15 2009 Effective July 14 2009. According to this policy
an IRB review is only required when human subject research is supported or regulated by any federal
department or agency which takes appropriate administrative action to make the policy applicable to
such research inside or outside of the United States of America, or if an institution has voluntarily
agreed to apply the regulations to all research, regardless of the source of funding. For research that is
not required to be regulated by this policy, exemptions are not required because the policy is not
required. Budd Hopkins research is not federally supported or regulated so it does not need to apply
for an IRB. Were a federal department or agency to support or regulate Alien abduction research, as
well as taking appropriate administrative action to make the CFR Title 45 apply to this research then
Hopkins would have to apply for and abide by the rules of an IRB. Simply put, were a federal
department or agency to support or regulate alien abduction research then IRB review criteria would
need to be fulfilled and the research conducted would need to be reviewed. The fault in this problem
therefore lies within the inactions of federal departments and agencies to support and regulate alien
abduction research, not with Budd Hopkins.
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FACT
Carol has not presented one fact, or item of empirical evidence to confirm that Budd Hopkins and
David Jacobs are in agreement that hybrids are going to take over the planet and the species. She has
referred to the above statement as proof of Hopkins and Jacobs synchronicity in their views. Not
only is the above statement open to interpretation, there is no specificity in it that would allow an
individual to draw the conclusion that Carol has drawn from that statement. Her formula appears to
be assert and repeat, an effective and persuasive technique utilised commonly in the construction of
propaganda.

MALE SPEAKER#1: Yeah. But again, Carol, that kind of stuff doesnt I mean, when youre talking
about Ted Phillips, he does great work. But when you look at, can you actually say any of that could
apply to what the enigmatic other is? And I don't think any amount of physical evidence burn grass,
broken tree limbs. It says something happened. But I don't think that any of those things you can
conclusively say, this is the other. That's the problem that I'm trying to get at with all of this. And
that's where you keep hitting this wall, its like, yes, these things have been documented, and it's
great work. But even Ted came on this program and said, my thought pattern and how I view this has
changed dramatically over one case, one case.

Paratopia Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn

URL: http://www.paratopia.org
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FACT
In one of Ted Phillips earliest cases, the Delphos, Kansas UFO case, three witnesses saw the UFO. Ron
Johnson saw it hovering over the land where Ted Phillips later obtained soil samples from, while Durel
and Erma Johnson saw the UFO in the sky after Ron informed them of his sighting. In physical trace
cases it is generally the witnesses that tie A (the UFO) to B (the evidence left behind).
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I have never undertaken any work involving abductees at my institution or elsewhere.

Tyler Kokjohn

URL: http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2011/feb/m16-016.shtml
121

FACT
Professor of Microbiology Tyler Kokjohn admits he has never undertaken any work involving
abductees yet he is critiquing the methods of individuals who do work with abductees. It is a good
thing that he is interested in obtaining and working with genetic evidence from alien abduction cases.
The field can use every decent person of science it can get its hands on. Is Tyler Kokjohn ready to get
his hands dirty and begin devoting his time and abilities to helping abductees? I hope so. An individual
such as himself in the medical community could make research proposals and try to get others in his
field interested and active in working on the alien abduction problem. If he is genuinely interested in
this I hope such actions will be forthcoming on his part, the field of alien abduction, especially with
Budd Hopkins declining health, can use as many sincere and able bodied individuals as possible.
















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MALE SPEAKER#1: Yeah. Well, the problem is back from the time that I sort of been involved in this
field, I always found people had an excuse for every circumstance. They... when you give them the
opportunity to come up with some kind of a result, they'll always come up and say, well, the aliens
took it, the government is going to come and kill me, or some kind of ridiculous excuse. Towards
the early 90s, I was starting to get really fed up with a lot of the stuff and I thought to myself, if we
put together some good people that have the same sort of approach and ideas, we may be able to
get possibly someone. And I put a call out to every group and every individual that I can come up
across Canada from every province and we managed to put together actually from coast to coast, a
number of groups and individuals to come together and work sort on their one heading and under
the same auspices of ideas and we manage to pull out some reasonable information. And at the
same time, during the days when I used to approach people like Budd and Dr. Jacobs and
numerous other individuals that were involved in the abduction phenomenon and when they used
to tell us that they had implants and different other types of material. We offer them the
opportunity to send them a peer and we will get all the technical would done through our local
university. And within that.

Spectrum Podcast: Carol Rainey & Tyler Kokjohn

URL:
http://www.spectrumradionetwork.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=78&It
emid=211
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FACT
Matt Moniz is an Analytical Chemist and Soil Analyst who has, among others, worked with Budd
Hopkins and the evidence from Budd Hopkins cases. Hopkins has an obligation to protect the privacy,
safety and security of the abductees he works with, to that end he has to be very careful with who he
shares the raw evidence from his work with. In some cases, abductees are willing in time to let facts
about their cases become publicly known, in articles and even books. Unless the abductees give their
consent, Hopkins has an obligation to keep the information safeguarded so that it is not stolen,
misused or distorted for cheap scandalous publicity. Not everyone has the best interest of the
abductee at the forefront of their minds were they to obtain evidence from their cases. For this
reason Hopkins is cautious in who he trusts with evidence. What is important is that he is indeed,
contrary to assertions of Carol Rainey, working in conjunction with scientists in assessing and
analysing the evidence obtained from alien abduction cases.
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FACT
Alfred Lehmberg and John Velez, in addition to Budd Hopkins have publicly admitted to being fooled
by Jim Mortellaro.
184, 185, 81, 82, 83
In Budd Hopkins rebuttal to Carol Raineys article The priests of high
strangeness co-creation of the alien abduction phenomenon Hopkins acknowledges that he was
duped and made no attempt to deny or hide that fact.
Carol quotes UFO Magazine writer and UFO researcher Ray Fowler in her article, Fowler states:
I wonder how many other Emmas there are out there?
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I sent an email to Ray Fowler and asked him about his statement.
My question:
"In Carol Rainey's article, "The priests of high strangeness", in regards to the Emma Woods case,
you're quoted as stating "I wonder how many other Emmas there are out there?" When you stated
this were you indicating that you wondered how many other abductees out there were being
subjected to ethical and professional improprieties by the individuals who were supposed to be
helping them?
84

Ray Fowler replied
"Yes, that is exactly what I meant."
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Carol then goes on to state in her article that she will begin to name them (the other Emmas)
because they are most definitely there and that in their naming, it will become clearthat the
marshy ground of alien abductions is afloat in hoaxes and partial hoaxes.
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Emma is someone who is alleged to have been abused by the individual they were seeking help from.
To name the other Emmas out there as Carol stated she was doing means that she would be naming
the individuals who had been abused the person they were seeking help from. The role of the abuser
in the Jim Mortellaro case was perpetrated by Jim Mortellaro himself, Mortellaro abused Budd
Hopkins, John Velezs and Alfred Lehmbergs trust by playing on their sympathies and lying to them
over long periods of time. Hopkins was manipulated by Mortellaro into feeling sorry for him, Hopkins
gave him the benefit of the doubt and paid the price for it. All that the Mortellaro case proves is that
Hopkins, like all of us, is fallible and, like all of us, capable of being deceived by psychopaths, and
Mortellaro proved that he could fool a great deal of people. Carol does not establish with evidence,
or even make the suggestion that Budd Hopkins abused Jim Mortellaro. Ray Fowlers definition of an
Emma indicates that at the very least an Emma is a victim. Mortellaro is not, and has not been proven
by Carol or anyone else to be, a victim.
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In regards to the Emma Woods case as Ive stated before, not all the facts are in, nor is the complete
evidence, to make judgements without empirical examination and consideration of these things
would be premature and unstably founded.
In regards to Doras case Carol presents excerpts from the letter of a consulting psychiatrist who
indicated that Dora had tremendous anger inside of her and that they doubted the veracity of Doras
abduction material. The therapist referred Dora to a more qualified Psychiatrist and indicated that
they didnt want Dora to use the scenario of alien abduction to bleed out a lifetime of her abuse. Dora
has not come forward or provided any statements alleging abuse by her from Budd Hopkins. Carol
perceived that Dora was abused by Budd Hopkins because she indicated that Hopkins continued to
speak to and hypnotically regress Dora after receiving that letter from the consulting Psychiatrist
dated January 27, 1995. Carols article does not indicate whether Hopkins consulted with the new
psychiatrist that Dora was referred to, its feasible given that he was consulting with her old one.
Doras interview and regressions were taped, by Carol herself in some instances. If there has been
abuse on Hopkins part towards Dora then those tapes hold the evidence of such, if the abuse took
place and Carol was filming it Carol did not do anything about it for a long time. Without videotaped
evidence of abuse or Dora herself to, at the very least, make a claim of abuse against Hopkins, we only
have Carols perceptions and suspicions to go on.
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In regards to the Beanie case regarding a possible UFO retrieval in 1963 all that is evident from Carols
article is that there were few witnesses and minimal evidence to substantiate the event and that after
thirty years there were discrepancies in Beanies story which she gave to three separate interviewers.
In the final paragraph of Carols article on the Beanie case she indicates that Beanies story had all
the hallmarks of tale co-created by a lonely old woman hungry for attention. Budd Hopkins, Walter
Webb and Carol Rainey have three varying accounts. It should be pointed out that Beanies case is an
alleged UFO retrieval case not an alien abduction case, so that if it were a hoax technically it wouldnt
be an alien abduction hoax. It should also be noted that if the Beanie case was a hoax and she was
taking Hopkins and other investigators for a ride then, like the Mortellaro case, the abuse of trust
would be on Beanies part, not Hopkins. Carol attempts to convey that the list of people shes naming
in her article were abused by Hopkins in a similar fashion to the way Emma Woods was alleged to
have been abused. Since she also attempts to convey that these people are hoaxers on top of being
victims she trips over her own argument because on the one hand shes naming them as victims, and
then on the other hand she indicates that they abused Budds trust and lied to him. Victims, Abusers,
Abusers, Victims?
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In regards to the Linda case, as Ive stated earlier, Carol has essentially presented a hearsay anecdote
and Linda making an excuse not to meet someone for coffee. The overall sentiment she imparts in her
article and allegations in regards to Linda and her case is that Linda is a hoaxer, who duped Budd for
financial gain. Again Carol cannot decide, on the one hand she tries to make out that Hopkins abused
his abductees and yet on the other she tries to make out that the abductees took advantage of
Hopkins trust and good nature. In a recent excerpt from her Carols upcoming documentary she uses
the findings of one individuals handwriting analysis to assert that Janet Kimball the woman on the
bridge was a hoaxer and that Linda in fact wrote the letter and did the drawings that Hopkins received
from Janet Kimball. Rather than taking into account the acknowledged and accepted subjectivity
associated with hand writing analysis and that an objective hand writing appraisal requires multiple
hand writing analyses performed by a cross section of hand writing analysts to obtain and establish a
trend or pattern of the findings, Carol champions the results of one hand writing analyst. One result
alone proves nothing given the subjective nature of humans performing and interpreting hand writing
analysis. Its a good start but hardly definitive, not nearly enough to form a conclusion upon.
53, 54, 55

It should also be noted that Carols Forensic Document Examiner Roger Rubin is actually a
Graphologist. Graphology is not science, it is pseudoscience. It has nothing to do with the procedures
required for a legitimate forensic handwriting analysis.
I have since contacted a real Forensic Document Examiner by the name of Steve Dubedat and
contracted an analysis of the documents in question. The results of that analysis refuted the
allegations of Rainey and Rubin. The report is available at the below URL.
URL: http://www.lindacortilecase.com/results-from-a-legitimate-forensic-document-
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Graphologist Roger Rubins findings have also been tossed out in court, specifically in the case of 476
F. 3d 144 - United States v. Tin Yat Chin.
(See Roger Rubin's "examinations" have been rejected in court at the below URL for more
information)
URL: http://www.lindacortilecase.com/subjective-critics-of-the-case.html
In summation Carol has failed to produce even one abductee who was abused by Budd Hopkins.
Hearsay, lies, assumptions, contradictions, confusion, omission and a dangerous low level of Academic
thoroughness are demonstrated in the contents of her extremely personal article. If her concern for
abductees is genuine, and she doesnt think that the alien abduction phenomenon as a whole is a
genre of performance art, as she indicates she thinks it is
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, then we can expect to see Carol putting
her time and resources into personally helping abductees in her future. Given her preference for
elaborate conspiracy theories (SEE LIE#3) and her theory regarding alien abductees as lonely or
psychopathic hoaxers
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, I would not be seeking her out if I were affected by the alien abduction
phenomenon. There are unfortunately far too few people who abductees can seek out for assistance
and understanding.
Carol Raineys article, the content from certain podcasts produced and released by the individuals
from Paratopia, as well as other UFO radio shows in the UFOtainment industry are, in my personal
opinion, prime examples of what is wrong with the UFO field at large and a prime hindrance to the
advancement of legitimate scientific interest in the UFO and alien abduction phenomenon as a whole.
The sensational presentation of arguments, looseness with the facts to sharpen the edge of a story,
running with a story before the substance of it has been verified, unabashed hearsay to impugn the
characters of others, regardless of what the truth may be.
That being said what I find more off putting and reasonably offensive than Carol Raineys article and
the baseless, uninformed material being peddled on Paratopia to besmirch Hopkins and his work is
that there is unfortunately a large, considerably uninformed, emotionally driven base of individuals
who accept and support whatever inaccurate and inflammatory pieces of information that are
conveyed to them. These individuals do themselves an injustice and wittingly or unwittingly
contribute to the steady construction and distribution of ridicule that people affected by the UFO
phenomenon are still forced to endure. I also find it offensive to see certain individuals in the UFO
field, who I had a level of respect for prior to this persecution of Budd Hopkins and his work, willing to
join the ranks of those leveling the allegations and claims. Especially given Hopkins state of health. I
can only conclude that the participation of certain UFO researchers in attacking Hopkins now is that in
the event of Hopkins demise there will be a power vacuum in the alien abduction field, with many
seasoned researchers potentially vying for Hopkins position, I hope this is an incorrect conclusion.
In my personal opinion, I find it is puzzling that Jeremy Vaeni, a purported abductee himself, would
play such a part in wittingly or unwittingly promoting and furthering the isolation and ridicule of alien
abductees. However it is not the first instance of abductees promoting damage. Richard D. Butler,
investigator and co-author of the Hansen/Stefula/Butler critique was a purported abductee and

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attended Hopkins support group meetings. Richard brought Joseph Stefula into the support group
meeting without permission and Stefula proceeded to interrogate certain abductees, in one instance
bringing a young girl to tears. When Hopkins found out about this he banned Stefula from the support
group meetings. Joseph Stefula later tried to get Linda Cortile to hand her case over to him so that he
could manage it, Linda refused. Joseph Stefula and Richard Butler hooked up with George Hansen, a
parapsychologist and critique writer, and the debunking of Lindas case commenced. Richard Butlers
complicity in the construction of the critique of Lindas case led to the perpetration of further
ignorance and doubt in regards to the publics appraisal of the alien abduction phenomenon. Those
who were familiar with the case, with Linda and who took the time to examine the crux of the
arguments and accusations leveled against Linda, her case and Budd Hopkins realised and
acknowledged the baseless hatchet job for what it was. Linda Cortile and Budd Hopkins both possess
large amounts of well documented evidence that irrefutably disproves the entire contents and
substance of the Hansen/Stefula/Butler critique. What they do with that evidence is their decision.
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One would think that individuals such as Jeremy Vaeni and Richard Butler would want to help and do
good for other abductees, reduce the ridicule, promote objectivity, work with and acknowledge the
inconvenient facts. Unfortunately the alien abduction phenomenon is indiscriminate in who it affects,
this factor explains why there is in some cases a lack of unity among those affected.
Richard Butler himself has since gone on to unsafely practice hypnosis and among other things has
founded a cult known as The Way, beyond that I do not know what has become of him. George
Hansens prior critique efforts in the Parapsychology field offer evidence of his unique methodologies
and are available in the appendix of this paper (See URL below to read the rebuttals to his prior
efforts).
141, 142, 143, 144, 145

URL: http://www.lindacortilecase.com/five-rebuttals-to-george-hansen-contained-in-the-journal-of-
parapsychology.html
I do not discourage the examination of the Hansen/Stefula/Butler critique of the Linda Cortile case,
Ive read it many times and hope others will read it too, read it and see for yourself just how little of it
can be proven, I apply this same sentiment to Carols article read it all, read it again and again.
It needs to be understood that in the field of UFOs and alien abductions that it is not everyones
prerogative to tell the truth or help those in need. It also needs to be understood that only a fool
thinks that they cant be fooled, we are all fallible to deception and putting our trust in people who
are hurting us. There has been no evidence produced in Carol Raineys article or the assertions floated
through Paratopia radio that Budd Hopkins is an abuser of abductees or that the majority of his
abductees are hoaxers as asserted by Rainey. Jim Mortellaro was a hoaxer, that constitutes one case
in the field of alien abduction where the purported abductee turned out to be a hoaxer. One case
does not constitute a field afloat with hoaxes as Carol asserts. Budd Hopkins has had hundreds of
cases over the years, the law of probability alone dictates that not all of them will be genuine. Is that
his personal failing, being a flawed and fallible human like the rest of us? Budd Hopkins did what few
other people in this world have done, he helped alien abductees.







QUOTES, REFERENCES AND
APPENDICES
QUOTES, REFERENCES AND APPENDICES
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1) All of the quotes that I am listing from Witnessed: The True Story of the Brooklyn Bridge UFO
Abductions by Budd Hopkins are quoted from the following version of that book:


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2) All of the quotes that I am listing from The Allagash Abductions by Raymond E. Fowler are quoted
from the following version of that book:











QUOTES, REFERENCES AND APPENDICES
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3) All of the quotes that I am listing from Captured: The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Experience by
Stanton T. Friedman and Kathleen Marden are quoted from the following version of that book:




QUOTES, REFERENCES AND APPENDICES
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4) All of the quotes that I am listing from Art, Life and UFOs by Budd Hopkins are quoted from the
following Kindle version of that book:











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5) All the quotes that I am listing from Close encounters of the Fourth Kind: Alien Abduction and
UFOs Witnesses and Scientists Report by C.D.B. Bryan are from the following version of the book:






QUOTES, REFERENCES AND APPENDICES
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6) The quote I am listing from Minima moralia: reflections on a damaged life by Theodor W. Adorno
is from the following version of the book:







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7) The quotes that I am listing from UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the borders of knowledge by
David Jacobs are from the following version of the book:









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8)

Is available at the following URL:
http://www.tricksterbook.com/ArticlesOnline/LindaCase.pdf
9)
The priests of high strangeness co-creation of the alien abduction phenomenon
By Carol Rainey

URL: www.paratopia.org/paratopia_magazine/mag_preview_final.pdf
10)

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Page 1; line 1 5, Betty Hill Hypnosis Session March 7, 1964 by Dr Benjamin Simon Transcript,
MC 197, Hill Box 4, Folder 3. Transcript obtained from Milne Special Collections and Archives,
University of New Hampshire, Durham NH 03824.

23)

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MC 197, Hill Box 4, Folder 3. Transcript obtained from Milne Special Collections and Archives,
University of New Hampshire, Durham NH 03824.






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MC 197, Hill Box 4, Folder 3. Transcript obtained from Milne Special Collections and Archives,
University of New Hampshire, Durham NH 03824.

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MC 197, Hill Box 4, Folder 3. Transcript obtained from Milne Special Collections and Archives,
University of New Hampshire, Durham NH 03824.










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MC 197, Hill Box 4, Folder 5. Transcript obtained from Milne Special Collections and Archives,
University of New Hampshire, Durham NH 03824.
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MC 197, Hill Box 4, Folder 5. Transcript obtained from Milne Special Collections and Archives,
University of New Hampshire, Durham NH 03824.
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by Stanton T. Friedman and Kathleen Marden
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by Stanton T. Friedman and Kathleen Marden

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by Stanton T. Friedman and Kathleen Marden

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A Critique of Budd Hopkins Case of the UFO Abduction of Linda [Cortile]
by Joseph J. Stefula, Richard D. Butler, and George P. Hansen
Is available at the following URL:
http://www.tricksterbook.com/ArticlesOnline/LindaCase.pdf













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(The original *.eml format copies of both the sent and received emails between Mr. Hansen and
myself are electronically available for empirical examination. Email Address blacked out.)




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In order to find out the last time the following webpage was modified I followed the 2 steps below.
URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_release.html
1. Type the webpage URL into the browser and press enter
2. Type the following javascript code into the browser and press enter:
javascript:alert(document.lastModified)
The webpage answered with a popup box that indicated the last time the webpage had been
modified.




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In order to find out the last time the following webpage was modified I followed the 2 steps below.
URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html
1. Type the webpage URL into the browser and press enter
2. Type the following javascript code into the browser and press enter:
javascript:alert(document.lastModified)
The webpage answered with a popup box that indicated the last time the webpage had been
modified.



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URL: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_release.html
(Classic Interface)










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URL: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html

(Classic Interface)




















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URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html
Cache record of the webpage that the above URL leads to from August 5 2004
URL:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040805233624/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html
(Classic Interface)








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URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html
Cache record of the webpage that the above URL leads to from June 25, 2008
URL:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080625030830/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/if_readings.html
(Classic Interface)








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URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_release.html
Cache record of the webpage that the above URL leads to from May 08, 2004
URL:
http://web.archive.org/web/20040508070121/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_rele
ase.html
(Classic Interface)








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URL: http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_release.html
Cache record of the webpage that the above URL leads to from June 25, 2008
URL:
http://web.archive.org/web/20080625033057/http://www.intrudersfoundation.org/mortellaro_rele
ase.html
(Classic Interface)

74)
"Chapter Eight Hypnosis and the investigation of UFO Abduction Accounts"
by Budd Hopkins (Page 215 240)
UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the borders of knowledge
by David Jacobs



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"Chapter Eight Hypnosis and the investigation of UFO Abduction Accounts"
by Budd Hopkins (Page 215 240),
Page 217; line 20 37, Page 218; line 1 11,
UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the borders of knowledge
by David Jacobs





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"Chapter Eight Hypnosis and the investigation of UFO Abduction Accounts"
by Budd Hopkins (Page 215 240) Page 218; line 23 30,
UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the borders of knowledge
by David Jacobs


























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"Chapter Eight Hypnosis and the investigation of UFO Abduction Accounts"
by Budd Hopkins (Page 215 240)
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UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the borders of knowledge
by David Jacobs


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UFOs and Abductions: Challenging the borders of knowledge by David Jacobs

79)
"I have been able to observe several of [Budd Hopkins'] regressions, and I remember being favorably
impressed by the extreme prudence with which he conducts them, so as not to influence his subjects."
Marie-Thrse de Brosses,
Enqute sur les enlvements extraterrestres [An Inquiry into Alien Abductions].
Paris: ditions J'ai lu, 1995.
URL:
http://www.gregsandow.com/ufo/Contents/Abduction_Conundrum/abduction_conundrum.htm
URL:
http://www.gregsandow.com/ufo/Contents/Abduction_Conundrum/footnotes/footnotes.htm#52











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line 392 399, The Abduction Conundrum by Greg Sandow

URL:
http://www.gregsandow.com/ufo/Contents/Abduction_Conundrum/abduction_conundrum.htm
81)
The only thing that kept ~me~ going with regard to Dr. Mortellaro and his "perceived abduction" for
as long as I did was Dr. Mortellaro himself. I believed the "man." He was that sincerely convincing...

...One Man's Opinion On The Mortellaro Affair...
by Alfred Lehmberg

URL: http://www.alienview.net/morty.html

82)
I'm astonished I was ever taken in. I'm more than a little ~ashamed~, actually.

...One Man's Opinion On The Mortellaro Affair...
by Alfred Lehmberg

URL: http://www.alienview.net/morty.html

83)
...And there seemed to be a whole medical community willing to stand behind him with regard to his
general sanity and to the high-strangeness of his physical claims... Well, no, as it turns out.
Like some others, many of them significantly smarter, more experienced and more educated than I
(Budd Hopkins among them), I bought in.

...One Man's Opinion On The Mortellaro Affair...
by Alfred Lehmberg

URL: http://www.alienview.net/morty.html
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(The original *.eml format copies of both the sent and received emails between Mr. Fowler and
myself are electronically available for empirical examination.)
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Some Thoughts on Budd Hopkins
By Peter Robbins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/Thoughts0nBudd.html


86)
I began working for Budd in the early 1970s to 1980s. My assignments changed from visit to visit
depending on what needed attention and included straightening up in the studio, fielding calls, taking
messages and running errands, filing and logging in recorded interviews as well as the endless
audiocassettes he continues to employ in recording every hypnotic regression he has conducted. My
responsibilities expanded to ultimately include fact checking, proof reading, investigation, reading and
responding to letters, meeting and interviewing possible abductees, attending most support group
meetings and witnessing hypnotic regressions.

Some Thoughts on Budd Hopkins
By Peter Robbins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/Thoughts0nBudd.html


87)
I was asked to witness a number of hypnotic regressions during the years I worked for Budd, either
by him or the subject or by both of them, but always with the subject's full approval. I cannot say how
many times I was called upon to do this, but can safely say I did so between ten and twenty times. As
a beginning practitioner, Budd worked under the watchful eye of the respected hypnotherapist
Aphrodite Clamar for seven long years, then under the guidance of other professional hypnotherapists
as well. His patience, sensitivity and concern for his subjects is extraordinary and it was not unusual
for him to take up to half an hour to make sure that the subject was as relaxed as possible before
asking them a first question. Transcripts of some of these sessions are included in his books and are
very worth reading. Additionally, the complete transcript (including both questions and answers) of
the long and memorable session he conducted with Larry Warren, my co-author of Left At East Gate is
included in that book and is exemplary of the manner in which Hopkins conducts this aspect of his
work.

Some Thoughts on Budd Hopkins
By Peter Robbins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/Thoughts0nBudd.html




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Almost every author of a book which has the potential to be made into a film would like to see this
outcome, myself very much included, and at a certain point in the development of Witnessed Budd
and Linda sat down and drew up an agreement which would govern her sharing in the profits of such
a venture, should it ever come to pass. That was it. To suggest that this somehow be interpreted as
the basis of a concocted abduction history is just not true and I am surprised that Carol resorts to such
an underhanded suggestion.
Some Thoughts on Budd Hopkins
By Peter Robbins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/Thoughts0nBudd.html

89)
Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute

90)
I have met with Budd on a number of occasions. I have observed him regressing a few abductees.
There was never a time where there was the slightest hint of him not being a consummate
professional. He is ultra sensitive to psychological pain, confusion, trauma and goes out of his way to
be kind, unconditionally accepting, and adhere to the highest of ethical standards.
Budd never tried to lead the abductee into an abduction scenario; in fact Budd both told and showed
me how he would purposely introduce fantasy "facts" that if validated by the abductee would suggest
they are responding to his leading inquiry. When he did this I observed no confirmation of his
purposefully misleading statements.
-- Gibbs Williams, Ph.D., Clinical Psychologist
Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins
URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute









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There are only a few people on Earth who have earned my respect as top-notch ET abduction
investigators, and Budd Hopkins is one of them. He is also one of only two people with hypnotic
regression skills and expertise who I consider professional and completely trust.
-- Jim Weiner Abductee, Allagash Four case, 1976

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins
URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute

92)
Budd Hopkins is recognized as a pioneer in UFO abduction research and investigation. His work,
which focused upon an extensive investigation of suspected abductees and his collaboration with
mental health professionals in recovering events for which victims had only partial conscious
memories must be commended.

His participation in the very important academic study on "Alien Symbols" reportedly observed by
abductees with Stuart Appelle (SUNY Brockport), and Tamara Lagrandeur/Don Donderi (McGill)
demonstrates that he has carefully collected evidence from suspected abductees that could be
evaluated scientifically. The multi-dimensional analysis clearly demonstrated that the experimental
group's findings were significantly different than that of the control group. The team concluded that
the consistency of symbols seen inside alien craft could possibly mean that the reports are true.

-- Kathleen Marden, UFO & Abduction Researcher, Author and Lecturer

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins
URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute
93)
My personal experience with Budd has been fruitful. In 2009, I visited his home and had the
opportunity to experience his hypnotic induction and memory retrieval techniques. I am a certified
hypnotherapist, abduction investigator and researcher, and generally don't employ hypnotic
regression in the absence of substantial evidence; however, I was interested in learning more about
Budd's technique. I was satisfied that he is not only compassionate and caring, but very careful not to
ask leading questions.

-- Kathleen Marden, UFO & Abduction Researcher, Author and Lecturer

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute

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There are certain people throughout history whom have made great contributions to humanity and
how we see the world we all ride on. Those folks have names that long outlive them and when are
spoken are synonymous with the cause they championed. Names like, Pasture, Einstein, the Wright
brothers and many others fill the halls of history because of a personal passion. Each of them was an
"Outsider" to their fields in one form or another, but yet the shiniest stars.
There is a man whom I have had the pleasure to know for almost 20 years, and is in my humble
opinion, a true pioneer in a greatly maligned and misunderstood subject known as "Alien
Abductions". This man had two decades of first rate research under his belt before I even met him,
and is the mentor to almost every serious person who has looked at the topic with an open mind as
well as heart. Just like the other pioneers I have mentioned, Budd has had and still has his detractors,
and just like those brave souls who stood for their beliefs, his name will be the one remembered by
the future as I doubt anyone can recall the names of the ones who said all those pioneers had been
wrong. Empty minds may make the most noise as they are only able to be echoes of each other, and
like echoes, the noise fades into the nothing from whence it came, only to be thankfully forgotten.
Truth, like that which is spoken by sages such as Budd, is the whisper of wisdom that is carried from
ear to ear throughout time to come. We will only understand something we do not have all the
answers for, once we allow those with the passion for finding the truth to continue unfettered, rather
than listening to those who would rather manufacture their own "truth" out of convenience, despite
what the evidence shows. No matter what -- time is the one who will wend forth truth -- and we are
the ones who will reap its benefits.
-- Matt Moniz, Analytical Chemist, Author, and Soil Analyst for the Intruders Foundation
Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute

95)
Thank you for this opportunity to express my deepest appreciation to Budd Hopkins, a true friend
and pioneer in a field of research that nobody knew how to approach. As a mental health professional
I respect and appreciate his involving and working closely with psychiatric professionals like John
Mack and myself. We could see how deeply he felt about the emotions and mental health of every
client.

-- John S. Carpenter MSW, LCSW, Psychiatric Hypnotherapist and UFO Abductions
Researcher

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute


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Personally, Budd shared many clever, insightful, and very helpful techniques and ideas that
jumpstarted my research in a wise direction. He was very careful to not reveal info that could bias,
contaminate, or suggest certain responses. In fact, he and I often discussed paradoxical questioning
that would try to lead subjects toward logical responses to see if they could be swayed or led. The
amazing thing is that subjects would stick adamantly to bizarre and irrational details -- like floating
through a solid wall -- rather than led by us toward realistic answers -- like leaving through a doorway.

I utilized one of his clever questions frequently -- in which I asked what the subject notices in any of
the corners of the new room he/she finds himself in. This again is a logical but leading question to see
if confabulation or imagination could be triggered. NOT ONCE has any subject reported what he sees
in any corner --- simply because the room appears to be round -- no room on board a UFO ever seems
to have corners! In other words, logical questions could not influence a witness toward logical
answers because they are determined to report what they have experienced no matter how bizarre it
seems. So these are good examples of the clever research wisdom that Budd shared as he tried to
carve some kind of sane path through understanding and approaching a totally bizarre field of weird
yet consistent data -- coming from sincere yet traumatized people.

-- John S. Carpenter MSW, LCSW, Psychiatric Hypnotherapist and UFO Abductions
Researcher

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute


97)
In the absence of any professional recognition of the abduction phenomenon, Budd was among the
first competent people to investigate abductions and among the first to organize what amount to
support groups for abductees. Budd took it upon himself to report what was happening to abductees
and to listen sympathetically to the abductees themselves. He sought professional expertise for the
difficult job of interviewing abductees and then developed his own interviewing skills because there
were so few credentialed experts who could fit abduction cases into their professional lives.

-- Don Donderi, Ph.D. Psychology

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute






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What I can say is that I once attended a meeting of his abduction group. I have spoken with medical
professionals whom Budd brought into his researches. They supported his efforts even if not all
agreed with Budd's conclusions about the overall meaning of the phenomenon. No abductee with
whom Budd worked has come to me with allegations of misconduct. Complaints from abductees with
whom he's worked have been relatively few, and even these generally muted.

-- Jerry Clark, UFO Historian and Author
[Permission to publish has been granted by Errol Bruce-Knapp, moderator of UFO Updates]

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute

99)
With all the posts about Budd Hopkins, I would like to say the following in his defense. Budd worked
with me about 7 years ago. We had lengthy phone discussions on several occasions in the years
before I went to New York to meet with him. I had been hypnotized by the State Police in order to
help in an investigation back in the 1960s, and Budd used similar methods. At no time did Budd try to
influence me, plant ideas or lead the session in any direction. He was always very careful in the
questions he asked and everything was recorded and notes were taken (including the phone
conversations) prior to our meeting several years before.

-- John Kubish

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute















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100)
Reading Missing Time in the early 1980s aroused my curiosity about my own experiences. When his
book titled Intruders came out in 1987, I wrote Budd about them. Being a fellow New Yorker, I
approached Budd at a couple events afterwards and in mid-1988 I was referred by him to Dr. Jean
Mundy, a NYC psychologist and hypnotherapist who was working with Budd. My two dozen sessions
with her opened up my own explorations and helped lead me into finding my own experiencer-run
group, S.P.A.C.E. - the Search Project for Aspects of Close Encounters in March of 1992. Budd was a
guest at two of our monthly support group meetings in 1993 and in 1995.

I've had dinner with Budd a few times over the years and was a guest on a few occasions at his
support meetings. I was also invited to sit in on two hypnosis sessions with friends who requested I do
so, and was able to observe firsthand how Budd conducts a session.

-- Harold Egeln, S.P.A.C.E. Founder and Facilitator

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute


101)
My experience with Budd demonstrated that he conducted himself in a professional manner with me
and he was kind. During my session with him, he just allowed what I was experiencing to surface.
There were times he purposely tried to suggest other things to lead me away from what I was
experiencing and recounting to him, but in each case, I returned to what I was re-experiencing under
the hypnosis. He said he did this as a truth test - if I was somehow fabricating what was coming I
might have followed his suggestions. I was not susceptible to suggestions trying to lead me away from
what I was remembering and recounting.

-- Niara Terela Isley, Abductee, Blogger and Author

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute







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102)
I have witnessed his work and I have been impressed by his behaviour, and I know that he is
very careful when he works with abductees. This is not just a compliment from a friend: I have
had the opportunity to validate this in many cases. I also say this as someone who has spent
seven years studying at Paris University and who has also spent many years studying this
disturbing phenomenon. Budd not only spent hours and hours discussing the subject with me, but
he also allowed me to join him in his support group. He showed me videos of his regression
sessions and I was able to see - firsthand -- how he carefully avoided leading questions. He also
allowed me to speak directly with some of his abductees without being present so they were able
to feel comfortable in their conversations with me.

-- Marie-Therese de Brosses, Author and Researcher

Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute

103)
"Nothing in my then nearly forty years of familiarity with the field of psychiatry prepared me for
what Hopkins had to say. I was impressed with his warmth, sincerity, intelligence, and caring for
the people with whom he had been working. But more important than that were the stories he
told me from people all over the United States who had come forth to tell him about their
experiences after reading one of his books or articles or hearing him on television....I have a great
debt and profound respect for the pioneers in this field, like Budd Hopkins, who have had the
courage to investigate and report information that runs in the face of our culture's consensus
reality..."

-- (The Late) John E. Mack, M.D., Pulitzer Prize Winner: From Abduction: Human Encounters
With Aliens (1994)
Colleagues and Abductees Give Thanks and Pay Tribute to Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.alienjigsaw.com/Articles/PioneerOfAbductionResearch.htm#Tribute









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104)

Art, Life and UFOs
by
Budd Hopkins
Kindle Edition (*.MOBI Format)
Location 4014 - 4024 (Kindle for PC 4)
ISBN: 1933665793


105)

Art, Life and UFOs
by
Budd Hopkins
Kindle Edition (*.MOBI Format)
Location 4035 - 4038 (Kindle for PC 4)
ISBN: 1933665793
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106)

Art, Life and UFOs
by
Budd Hopkins
Kindle Edition (*.MOBI Format)
Location 4452 - 4459 (Kindle for PC 4)
ISBN: 1933665793

107)

Art, Life and UFOs
by
Budd Hopkins
Kindle Edition (*.MOBI Format)
Location 4512 - 4514 (Kindle for PC 4)
ISBN: 1933665793




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108)

Art, Life and UFOs
by
Budd Hopkins
Kindle Edition (*.MOBI Format)
Location 4624 - 4629 (Kindle for PC 4)
ISBN: 1933665793
109)

Art, Life and UFOs
by
Budd Hopkins
Kindle Edition (*.MOBI Format)
Location 5219 - 5228 (Kindle for PC 4)
ISBN: 1933665793
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110)

Art, Life and UFOs
by
Budd Hopkins
Kindle Edition (*.MOBI Format)
Location 5579 - 5583 (Kindle for PC 4)
ISBN: 1933665793
111)

Art, Life and UFOs
by
Budd Hopkins
Kindle Edition (*.MOBI Format)
Location 6143 - 6152 (Kindle for PC 4)
ISBN: 1933665793
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112)

Art, Life and UFOs
by
Budd Hopkins
Kindle Edition (*.MOBI Format)
Location 6164 - 6167 (Kindle for PC 4)
ISBN: 1933665793

113)

Art, Life and UFOs
by
Budd Hopkins
Kindle Edition (*.MOBI Format)
Location 6351 - 6363 (Kindle for PC 4)
ISBN: 1933665793
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114)
As Mr. Bryan reports, he attended the five-day conference, took extensive notes, talked to the
participants during breaks and over meals, and followed up with "post conference interviews," some
of which involved sitting in on hypnosis sessions with witnesses who claim to have been abducted by
aliens.
BOOKS OF THE TIMES; Giving the U.F.O. Group A Shot at Persuasion
By CHRISTOPHER LEHMANN-HAUPT
Published: June 5, 1995
URL:
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=990CE3DD113AF936A35755C0A963958260&scp=2&
sq=BOOKS%20OF%20THE%20TIMES:%20Giving%20the%20U.F.O.%20Group%20A%20Shot%20at%20P
ersuasion&st=cse

115)
Chapter XIV Post conference Interview Carol and Alice
- First Hypnosis Session at Budd Hopkins Studio
Page 315 333
Chapter XVI Post conference Interview Carol and Alice
- Second Hypnosis Session at Budd Hopkins' Studio
Page 339 357
Chapter XVII Post conference Interview Carol and Alice
- Third Hypnosis Session at Budd Hopkins Studio
Page 358 382
Chapter XVIII Post conference interview Carol and Alice
- Fourth Hypnosis session at Budd Hopkins' Studio
Page 383 401
Chapter XIX Post conference Interview Carol and Alice
- Fifth Hypnosis Session at Budd Hopkins Studio
Page 402 415
Close encounters of the Fourth Kind: Alien Abduction and UFOs Witnesses and Scientists Report
by C.D.B. Bryan (Hardcover)
116)

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS NYC NEWS --JANUARY-FEBRUARY 2009
DR. JEAN MUNDY, A LEADING N.Y. UFO ALIEN ABDUCTION RESEARCHER, DIES JAN. 14

URL: http://community-2.webtv.net/ASTROHAL/CLOSEENCOUNTERSNYC/page13.html

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117)

A certified psychologist in New York State, she was a senior staff psychologist working with a
diagnostic team at St. Vincent's Hospital in Greenwich Village for 10 years and also an psychology
professor for 30 years at Long Island University. She specialized in hypnotherapy and projective
techniques, which came into play when she first learned about the alien abduction phenomena.

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS NYC NEWS --JANUARY-FEBRUARY 2009
DR. JEAN MUNDY, A LEADING N.Y. UFO ALIEN ABDUCTION RESEARCHER, DIES JAN. 14

URL: http://community-2.webtv.net/ASTROHAL/CLOSEENCOUNTERSNYC/page13.html


118)
This led her into hypnotherapy work. But it was not until the mid-1980s when Budd Hopkins got in
touch with her (he lives in nearby Chelsea) and asked her help responding to possible contact
experiencers answering an "Omni Magazine" survey. "About 80 percent indicated they had close
encounters and I began working with some of them," Dr. Mundy said at a UFO conference.

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS NYC NEWS --JANUARY-FEBRUARY 2009
DR. JEAN MUNDY, A LEADING N.Y. UFO ALIEN ABDUCTION RESEARCHER, DIES JAN. 14

URL: http://community-2.webtv.net/ASTROHAL/CLOSEENCOUNTERSNYC/page13.html


119)
This reporter, who first met her on referral by Budd Hopkins in July 1988, greatly benefitted from the
25 sessions he had with her between 1988 and 1993, and from her support, encouragement and
friendship then and over the years.

CLOSE ENCOUNTERS NYC NEWS --JANUARY-FEBRUARY 2009
DR. JEAN MUNDY, A LEADING N.Y. UFO ALIEN ABDUCTION RESEARCHER, DIES JAN. 14

URL: http://community-2.webtv.net/ASTROHAL/CLOSEENCOUNTERSNYC/page13.html




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120)
Yes, in fact, my financial stake in Budd's book, "Witnessed," enabled me to fill a cavity at the dentist's
office. The rest of the dental work I had to pay for with my husbands' paycheck. Pretty good, after 8
years of my watching everyone else make money on MY case, huh?

It was good of Budd to offer me (which I did not want to accept) a fraction of what he was given. He
felt guilty about making money on my misery. He felt better when I accepted the token he offered.
However, whatever monies he's received, he made from his own sufferings regarding the unfolding
and the investigations of my case. It took Hopkins 5 years of hard work, to complete his book. I hope
he makes a MILLION!!

I appreciated his feelings more than I appreciated the token he offered, representing an expression of
his feelings. He has a heart and that's what matters to me.

Linda Cortile
URL: http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/1997/sep/m06-007.shtml

121)

I have never undertaken any work involving abductees at my institution or elsewhere.

Tyler Kokjohn

URL: http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2011/feb/m16-016.shtml

122)
Carol Raineys article, Priests of High Strangeness, will be appearing in the new Paratopia webzine at
www.paratopia.net on January 15th, 2011.
URL: http://www.carolrainey.com/progress.html





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123)
Paratopia 104 Dr.Tyler Kokjohn
URL: http://www.paratopia.org

124)
Publisher: Anomalist Books (June 24, 2009)
URL: http://www.amazon.com/ART-LIFE-UFOs-Budd-Hopkins/dp/1933665416

125)

Page 210; line 10 11, Minima moralia: reflections on a damaged life
By Theodor W. Adorno
126)
Although I question how he safeguarded his subjects well-being, he engaged in no physically invasive
medical procedures and worked with consenting adults.
Tyler Kokjohn
URL: http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2011/feb/m11-013.shtml










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127)

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URL: http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/policy/ohrpregulations.pdf

128)

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129)

Code of Federal Regulations Title 45 Public Welfare Department of Health and Human Services Part 46
Protection of Human Subjects Revised January 15 2009 Effective July 14 2009 SUBPART A
Basic HHS Policy for Protection of Human Research Subjects Section 46.101 Paragraph A
Page 3; Left Column; line 8 39 (Including bold title text)
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Code of Federal Regulations Title 45 Public Welfare Department of Health and Human Services Part 46
Protection of Human Subjects Revised January 15 2009 Effective July 14 2009 SUBPART A
Basic HHS Policy for Protection of Human Research Subjects Section 46.101 Paragraph B Unless
otherwise required by department or agency heads, research activities in which the only involvement
of human subjects will be in one or more of the following categories are exempt from this policy
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131)

Code of Federal Regulations Title 45 Public Welfare Department of Health and Human Services Part 46
Protection of Human Subjects Revised January 15 2009 Effective July 14 2009 SUBPART A
Basic HHS Policy for Protection of Human Research Subjects Section 46.102 Paragraph E
Page 4; Left Column; line 44 47 (including bold title text); Middle Column; line 1 12
URL: http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/policy/ohrpregulations.pdf

132)

Code of Federal Regulations Title 45 Public Welfare Department of Health and Human Services Part 46
Protection of Human Subjects Revised January 15 2009 Effective July 14 2009 SUBPART A
Basic HHS Policy for Protection of Human Research Subjects Section 46.109 Paragraph A
Page 6; Middle Column; line 17 21 (including bold title text)
URL: http://www.hhs.gov/ohrp/policy/ohrpregulations.pdf
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133)


Page 23; line 1 7, G.I. Roundtable What is Propaganda by Ralph D. Casey.
134)

Page 10; Left Column; Third Paragraph,
MUFON UFO Journal, Number 363, July 1998.

135)

Page 10; Right Column; line 8 16,
MUFON UFO Journal, Number 363, July 1998.


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136)

Page 10; Right Column; line 54 55 (including bold text), Page 11; Left Column; line 1 16,
MUFON UFO Journal, Number 363, July 1998.
(Many thanks to Gildas Bourdais for pointing out the location of the above statement at his post
at UFOUpdates)
URL: http://www.ufoupdateslist.com/2011/feb/m17-007.shtml
137)


Page 389; Paragraph 1 (not including bold title text), Use of Hypnosis as an Aid to Eyewitness
Memory by John C. Yuille and N. Hope McEwan,
Journal of Applied Psychology 1985, Vol. 70, No. 2, 389-400.


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138)



Page 1139; Paragraph 1 (not including bold title lines), Evaluating Hypnotic Memory Enhancement
(Hypermnesia and Reminiscence) Using Multitrial Forced Recall, By David F. Dinges, Wayne G.
Whitehouse, Emily Carota Orne, John W. Powell, and Martin T. Orne, Matthew H. Erdelyi,
Journal of Experimental Psychology: Learning, Memory, and Cognition 1992,
Vol. 18, No. 5, 1139-1147.

139)


Page 271; Paragraph 1 (not including bold title lines) "Are Hypnotically Induced Pseudomemories
Resistant to Cross-Examination?"by N.Spanos, M.Gwynn, S.Comer,W.Baltruweit, and M.deGroh,
Law and Human Behavior, Vol. 13, No. 3 (1989), Page 271 89.










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140)


Page 1; Paragraph 1 (not including bold title lines) "Hypnotic Hypermnesia: Enhanced Memory
Accessibility or Report Bias?"by W.Whitehouse,D.Dinges, E.Orne, and M.Orne,
Journal of Abnormal Psychology (1988) Vol. 97, No.3, 289-95.

141)

Contra George Hansen's flawed critique of the work with B.D By Edward F. Kelly

Published in The Journal of Parapsychology, December 1992 by Edward F. Kelly

Page 1 URL: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2320/is_n4_v56/ai_14558004/
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142)

Response to Hansen: background, corrections, and amplifications By Gertrude R. Schmeidler

Published in The Journal of Parapsychology, December 1992 by Gertrude R. Schmeidler

Page 1 URL: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2320/is_n4_v56/ai_14558010/
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143)

A response to George Hansen's critique: some supplementary notes on the research with B.D
by H. Kanthamani

Published in the The Journal of Parapsychology, December 1992 by H. Kanthamani

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144)

The research with B.D.: a reply to George Hansen by John Beloff

The Journal of Parapsychology, December 1992 by John Beloff

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145)

Background on John Beloff

URL: http://www.parapsych.org/members/j_beloff.html

Background on Edward Francis Kelly

URL: http://www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/internet/personalitystudies/edbio.cfm

Background on Gertrude Schmeidler

URL: http://www.parapsych.org/members/g_schmeidler.html


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146) Greg Sandow's article "The Linda Cortile Case"

URL: http://www.gregsandow.com/ufo/Contents/From_IUR_--_An_Analysis_of_the/from_iur_--
_an_analysis_of_the.htm

147) Fire in the sky by Travis Walton (2010 edition)


148) UFO Socorro evidence

URL: www.caminorealheritage.org/PH/0808_socorro_ufo.pdf


149) ANALYSIS OF THE TESTIMONY OF THOMAS SMITH, JR. REGARDING THE GULF BREEZE UFO
PHOTOS by Bruce Maccabee

URL: http://web.archive.org/web/20041024095123/http://www.skiesare.demon.co.uk/t-smith.html


150)
The Linda Cortile Abduction Case by Budd Hopkins,
Page 12 16, September 1992,
Number 293, MUFON UFO Journal.

URL:
http://www.theblackvault.com/encyclopedia/documents/MUFON/Journals/1992/September_1992.p
df
151)
The Linda Cortile Abduction Case Part II: The woman on the bridge by Budd Hopkins,
Page 5 9, December 1992, Number 296, MUFON UFO Journal.

URL:
http://www.theblackvault.com/encyclopedia/documents/MUFON/Journals/1992/December_1992.p
df

152)
Rejoinder to the critique of Budd Hopkins by Walter H. Andrus Jr,
Page 8 9, April 1993, Number 300, MUFON UFO Journal.

URL:
http://www.theblackvault.com/encyclopedia/documents/MUFON/Journals/1993/April_1993.pdf



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153)
A light at the end of the tunnel by Linda Cortile,
June 1993, Number 302, MUFON UFO Journal

URL:
http://www.theblackvault.com/encyclopedia/documents/MUFON/Journals/1993/June_1993.pdf

154)

They're coming to take us away: Can space aliens really have abducted the former Secretary-General
of the United Nations? It sounds absurd, but thousands of Americans seem convinced by a rumour
which has become a cause celebre even outside the mad world of modern 'Ufology'

By Jim Schnabel
Sunday, 2 January 1994

URL: http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/theyre-coming-to-take-us-away-can-space-
aliens-really-have-abducted-the-former-secretarygeneral-of-the-united-nations-it-sounds-absurd-but-
thousands-of-americans-seem-convinced-by-a-rumour-which-has-become-a-cause-celebre-even-
outside-the-mad-world-of-modern-ufology-1397440.html


155) Attempted Murder vs. The Politics of Ufology: A Question of Priorities in the Linda Cortile
Case by George P. Hansen.

URL: www.mnmufon.org/mmj/mmj37.pdf

156) Politics of Torquemada; or, Earth Calling Hansens Planet by Jerome Clark

URL: www.mnmufon.org/mmj/mmj37.pdf

157) Torquemada Responds to Jerome Clark by George P. Hansen

URL: www.mnmufon.org/mmj/mmj38.pdf

158) Wasting away in Torquemadaville by Jerome Clark

URL: www.mnmufon.org/mmj/mmj38.pdf

159) House Of Cards The Butler / Hansen / Stefula Critique Of The Cortile Case
By Budd Hopkins

URL: http://www.shoah.plus.com/801/abduct/rebutl.html

160) Open Letter from Richard Dolan / Alien Abduction

URL: http://www.ufocasebook.com/dolanletter.html
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161) The Daze After Manhattan Stood Still, by Yancy Spence

URL: http://www.ufocasebook.com/daze.html

162)
Intruders Foundation Seminar Series Farah Yurdozu reports from New York City - Intruders
Foundation Seminar Series, June 2006 LINDA CORTILE AND THE BROOKLYN BRIDGE ABDUCTION
CASE - LATEST DEVELOPMENTS, NEWEST DISCLOSURES, AND AN UPDATE TO THE BOOK, "WITNESSED"

URL: http://www.jerrypippin.com/UFO_Files_budd_hopkins.htm


163) Alleged Alien Abductions: False Memories, Hypnosis, and Fantasy Proneness,
by Steven Lynn and Irving Kirsch

URL:
http://www.michaelsheiser.com/UFOReligions/Alleged%20Alien%20Abductions%20False%20Memori
es%20Hypnosis%20and%20Fantasy%20Proneness.pdf

164)

Paratopia Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn JANUARY 29, 2011

URL: http://www.paratopia.org

165)

MALE SPEAKER#1: What do you think that Jacobs and Hopkins often say that you need to be
hypnotized or that people don't remember a lot outright that's why they need to hypnotized. They
don't trust people who haven't been hypnotized. That sort of thing if the letters don't reflect that.

CAROL RAINEY: I don't think they say that actually. That --

MALE SPEAKER#1: Ive heard them say that.

MALE SPEAKER#3: Yeah.

CAROL RAINEY: I haven't heard Budd say he doesn't trust someone who hasn't been hypnotized.

MALE SPEAKER#1: Yeah. Maybe that's more Jacobs than Budd.

Paratopia Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn

URL: http://www.paratopia.org



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166)

MALE SPEAKER#1: You can learn hypnosis, but you can't, but you still need to know about the patient
client relationship.

CAROL RAINEY: Absolutely. And that's where I think both of our primary abduction researchers, they
are lacking in those skills and they are crucial for the safety of the subject.

Paratopia Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn

URL: http://www.paratopia.org

167)

CAROL RAINEY: He worked with two different psychotherapists, Bob Naiman and Matt and a really
strange woman Remy Lebeau, they're all psychiatrists I believe all three of them are. And he observed
them, they did all of the hypnosis with the people he brought to them in the beginning. The first, I
don't even remember how many years, but it might have been seven, eight. I think people can. I mean
I know how to make films, I never took a film of course, you can make, you can do, you can learn
these things.

Paratopia Episode 101: Carol Rainey & Dr. Tyler Kokjohn

URL: http://www.paratopia.org

168)

CAROL RAINEY: I'm trying to think, I think that was happening while we were writing it, while I was
writing my part which took two years longer than Budd took. He is a quite pro at writing the stuff, he's
very fast. And I'm not quite as fast, and I do a lot more research. So I took a lot longer and I think this
was going on that morelot of things going on while I was still doing some writing.

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MALE SPEAKER#1: Well, let's just think, I think people do, I mean, it seems likenow again, well most
of the sort of reaction to this has been really positive at least behind the scenes, but when I visit
forums where they decide to sort of pile, none of their criticisms make sense. And one of them is that
well, wewe've got it out for Jacobs and Hopkins. Weve got it out for these guys and its like no, we
have it out for the bad research, we have it out for that there theyre hurting other human beings and
everyone seems to be trying to protect and ideology over humans like, what do youyes, go ahead,
Im sorry.

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JEFF: Yeah. That's exactly. You know one other things that I think I had mentioned on the last show is
that, we're not only going up against this notion of hypnosis, alien abduction in the common scenario
that has been put forth over decades now. You're also talking about and Tyler, I'm going to assume
this probably happened in science as well as that, we're actually pointing out a corner stone because
this is just above alien abduction in that scenario. It's about everything has been built on top of that
foundation that were finding out is built on sand. And so the building is not stable to begin with. So
it's not only going against the beliefs something like Carol said, and the commonality of the notion of,
okay, here what's going on because we got all these data compiled from hypnosis, but also everything
has been built upon that for years now. I mean go out there, read the message board. So I mean that's
exactly what the problem is.

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MALE SPEAKER#1: Yeah. But again, Carol, that kind of stuff doesnt I mean, when youre talking
about Ted Phillips, he does great work. But when you look at, can you actually say any of that could
apply to what the enigmatic other is? And I don't think any amount of physical evidence burn grass,
broken tree limbs. It says something happened. But I don't think that any of those things you can
conclusively say, this is the other. That's the problem that I'm trying to get at with all of this. And
that's where you keep hitting this wall, its like, yes, these things have been documented, and it's
great work. But even Ted came on this program and said, my thought pattern and how I view this has
changed dramatically over one case, one case.

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MALE SPEAKER#1: Now what do you think was the major motivation on either one of them
between Budd and Dr. Jacobs, ultimately what was their motivation?
CAROL RAINEY: Oh, I don't really like to go into that territory. It means I can read their minds, but I
guess if you've been married to someone for 10 years, you have a pretty good idea of what moves
them. I think they are both and I do know David. I think they are both have gotten to the point the
involvement in this paranormal research, where they are completely convinced that the reality
that in my opinion, they've partially constructed. There is horrific alien invasion, the secret alien
invasion via the hybridization. They are really convinced this is happening. I was on the cape with
Jacobs' family had rented a house, several doors down from the place where we usually stay in the
summer. And over dinner one night, just I suddenly in a pause in the conversation with Dave's wife
I heard. Dave Jacobs say, Budd, you and I are the only people on the planet who know what's going
on. And my mouth dropped open and I sort of blurted out, David, that's a little bit of a dangerous
way to think, isn't it? You are the only people on the planet and that was not well received.
MALE SPEAKER#1: Right. Little scary really. And that was talking behind the scenes, there was no
interviewer, there's no crowd, there's no...
CAROL RAINEY: No, no.
MALE SPEAKER#1: This is personally at the dinner table just...
CAROL RAINEY: Absolutely.
MALE SPEAKER#1: So they believed it, 100%.
CAROL RAINEY: They do.
MALE SPEAKER#1: They both believe it
CAROL RAINEY: Yes, they do. Yeah. Somebody asked me that once. So when they get off the
podium and turn away, are these guys' fakes and they start laughing at these people. No, not at all.
They do believe what they are doing.
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MALE SPEAKER#1: But how was he performing in hypnotherapy or hypnosis I should say to these
individuals without at least understanding what hypnosis is supposed to be?
CAROL RAINEY: He observed, I think, for the first five years, he worked under three different
psychiatrists who did hypnosis, and Budd was a person sitting in, often asking questions and he
learned from observing. And I actually think he is very good at getting people into that state. I
think he even goes into a very relaxed state himself.
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CAROL RAINEY: Yes. And I did a bit more detective work on my own as well.

MALE SPEAKER#1: Oh, did you find out anything interesting.

CAROL RAINEY: Yes, but you'll have to wait until the documentary comes out to hear it.

MALE SPEAKER#1: There you go. But whatever investigation that he had done, footwork, the
information that he had gotten, was it ever backed up anybody else?

CAROL RAINEY: Depends what you need. If you're asking, if you actually met the Richard, the
Dan, the two government agents or if he met the third man, no, he didn't, he got letters, typed
letters from all of those people. He did meet with the -- I've the audio recording were pretty
remarkable meeting with the woman, he calls the woman on the bridge. And he did meet with
her at the restaurant.

MALE SPEAKER#1: Okay. Was she connected to Linda at all?

CAROL RAINEY: Well, that's what you'll have to find out?

MALE SPEAKER#1: Okay. Or she was Linda?

CAROL RAINEY: No, no. Actually she wasn't.

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MALE SPEAKER#2: All right. I have a question for Carol. Carol, do you think that the abduction
researchers would be open to this sort of information or what are you feeling on that?

CAROL RAINEY: Well, I think they would love to have that. But I would tell you right now, what they
will say is, that's all very well and good, but the aliens have a way of overwriting all of our impulses,
our instincts they control telepathically, what these women will be able to do when they come back
and what they'll be able to bring back with them, which means nothing.

MALE SPEAKER#2: So whether that's true or not, it closes the loop.

CAROL RAINEY: Yeah, well.

MALE SPEAKER#2: It means okay, well, sorry, you can't do that. That won't work.

CAROL RAINEY: Yes. Yes.

DR. TYLER KOKJOHN: Be careful with that argument though.

MALE SPEAKER#1: Yeah. But these were the type of excuses that we've had all along was in that?

DR. TYLER KOKJOHN: Oh, yeah. Yeah.

CAROL RAINEY: You'll still get that.

DR. TYLER KOKJOHN: I don't doubt that at all. But if you want to sort of do recursion back on that,
then you'd say, well, hey, what's the deal with the screen memory and how come they're permeable
sometimes and how can some people recall without prompting. You can kind of wipe yourself out of
your position of any knowledge. If you get too radical about what they won't allow, I think we have to
start with the supervision that this is an interesting phenomenon, okay, don't deny the phenomenon,
I do have grave questions about some of the hypothesis and explanations.

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MALE SPEAKER#1: Yeah. Well, the problem is back from the time that I sort of been involved in this
field, I always found people had an excuse for every circumstance. They... when you give them the
opportunity to come up with some kind of a result, they'll always come up and say, well, the aliens
took it, the government is going to come and kill me, or some kind of ridiculous excuse. Towards
the early 90s, I was starting to get really fed up with a lot of the stuff and I thought to myself, if we
put together some good people that have the same sort of approach and ideas, we may be able to
get possibly someone. And I put a call out to every group and every individual that I can come up
across Canada from every province and we managed to put together actually from coast to coast, a
number of groups and individuals to come together and work sort on their one heading and under
the same auspices of ideas and we manage to pull out some reasonable information. And at the
same time, during the days when I used to approach people like Budd and Dr. Jacobs and
numerous other individuals that were involved in the abduction phenomenon and when they used
to tell us that they had implants and different other types of material. We offer them the
opportunity to send them a peer and we will get all the technical would done through our local
university. And within that.

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MALE SPEAKER#1: But what happened in cases that they turned out to be fakes or not...

MALE SPEAKER#2: Are you asking about a specific case, Tom?

MALE SPEAKER#1: No, no just in general. Like when they would -- with something and they would find
out or maybe wasn't what it was supposed to be or what they thought it would?

CAROL RAINEY: It depends how far in. And the Jim Mortellaro case for example and the Linda case,
Budd went out on and was presenting these cases at conferences very early on in to the research. And
once you stand up in front of field class and various other people and say that this is what you believe,
this is what has happened, it's not just what you believe. This is what the data shows you. It seems to
me for certain people as very, very hard to back down. And that's very much...

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CAROL RAINEY: And Budd is not even interested in science, he doesn't even read science, nor does
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Mortellaro fooled me. He 'fooled' a lot of people. I was the one who introduced him to both Budd
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