THE BEATLES FIRST-EVER RADIO INTERVIEW OCT.

28th, 1962 BACKSTAGE, HUME HALL, PORT SUNLIGHT INTERVIEWED BY MONTY LISTER MONTY LISTER: It's a very great pleasure for us this evening to say hello to an upand-coming Merseyside group, The Beatles. I know their names, and I'm going to try and put faces to them. Now, you're John Lennon, aren't you?" JOHN: "Yes, that's right." MONTY: "What do you do in the group, John?" JOHN: "I play harmonica, rhythm guitar, and vocal. That's what they call it." MONTY: "Then, there's Paul McCartney. That's you?" PAUL: "Yeah, that's me. Yeah." MONTY: "And what do you do?" PAUL: "Play bass guitar and uhh, sing? ...I think! That's what they say." MONTY: "That's quite apart from being vocal?" PAUL: "Well... yes, yes." MONTY: "Then there's George Harrison." GEORGE: "How d'you do." MONTY: "How d'you do. What's your job?" GEORGE: "Uhh, lead guitar and sort of singing." MONTY: "By playing lead guitar does that mean that you're sort of leader of the group or are you...?" GEORGE: "No, no. Just... Well you see, the other guitar is the rhythm. Ching, ching, ching, you see." PAUL: "He's solo guitar, you see. John is in fact the leader of the group." MONTY: "And over in the background, here, and also in the background of the group making a lot of noise is Ringo Starr." RINGO: "Hello." MONTY: "You're new to the group, aren't you Ringo?" RINGO: "Yes, umm, nine weeks now." MONTY: "Were you in on the act when the recording was made of 'Love Me Do'?" RINGO: "Yes, I'm on the record. I'm on the disc." (the group giggles) RINGO: (comic voice) "It's down on record, you know?" MONTY: "Now, umm..." RINGO: "I'm the drummer!" (laughter) MONTY: "What's that offensive weapon you've got there? Those are your drumsticks?" RINGO: "Well, it's umm... just a pair of sticks I found. I just bought 'em, you know, 'cuz we're going away." MONTY: "When you say you're going away, that leads us on to another question now. Where are you going?" RINGO: "Germany. Hamburg. For two weeks." MONTY: "You have standing and great engagements over there, haven't you?" RINGO: "Well, the boys have been there quite a lot, you know. And I've been there with

other groups, but this is the first time I've been there with the Beatles." MONTY: "Paul, tell us. How do you get in on the act in Germany?" PAUL: "Well, it was all through an old agent." (laughter) PAUL: (chuckles) "We first went there for a fella who used to manage us, and Mr. Allan Williams of the Jacaranda Club in Liverpool. And he found the engagements so we sort of went there, and then went under our own..." JOHN: "Steam." PAUL: "Steam... (laughs) JOHN: "...as they say." PAUL: "As they say, afterwards, you know. And we've just been going backwards and forwards and backwards and forwards." MONTY: (surprised) "You're not busy at all?" PAUL: (jokingly) "Well yes, actually. Yes. It's me left leg. You know. The war." (laughter) MONTY: "George, were you brought up in Liverpool?" GEORGE: "Yes. So far, yes." MONTY: "Whereabouts?" GEORGE: "Well, born in Wavertree, and bred in Wavertree and Speke -- where the airplanes are, you know." MONTY: "Are you all 'Liverpool types,' then?" RINGO: "Yes." JOHN: "Uhh... types, yes." PAUL: "Oh yeah." RINGO: "Liverpool-typed Paul, there." MONTY: "Now, I'm told that you were actually in the same form as young Ron Wycherley..." RINGO: "Ronald. Yes." MONTY: "...now Billy Fury." RINGO: "In Saint Sylus." MONTY: "In which?" RINGO: "Saint Sylus." JOHN: "Really?" RINGO: "It wasn't Dingle Vale like you said in the Musical Express." PAUL: "No, that was wrong. Saint Sylus school." MONTY: "Now I'd like to introduce a young disc jockey. His name is Malcolm Threadgill, he's 16-years old, and I'm sure he'd like to ask some questions from the teenage point of view." MALCOLM THREADGILL: "I understand you've made other recordings before on a German label." PAUL: "Yeah." MALCOLM: "What ones were they?" PAUL: "Well, we didn't make... First of all we made a recording with a fella called Tony Sheridan. We were working in a club called 'The Top Ten Club' in Hamburg. And we made a recording with him called, 'My Bonnie,' which got to number five in the German

Hit Parade." JOHN: "Achtung!" PAUL: (giggles) "But it didn't do a thing over here, you know. It wasn't a very good record, but the Germans must've liked it a bit. And we did an instrumental which was released in France on an EP of Tony Sheridan's, which George and John wrote themselves. That wasn't released here. It got one copy. That's all, you know. It didn't do anything." MALCOLM: "You composed 'P.S. I Love You' and 'Love Me Do' yourself, didn't you? Who does the composing between you?" PAUL: "Well, it's John and I. We write the songs between us. It's, you know... We've sort of signed contracts and things to say, that now if we..." JOHN: "It's equal shares." PAUL: "Yeah, equal shares and royalties and things, so that really we just both write most of the stuff. George did write this instrumental, as we say. But mainly it's John and I. We've written over about a hundred songs but we don't use half of them, you know. We just happened to sort of rearrange 'Love Me Do' and played it to the recording people, and 'P.S. I Love You,' and uhh, they seemed to quite like it. So that's what we recorded." MALCOLM: "Is there anymore of your own compositions you intend to record?" JOHN: "Well, we did record another song of our own when we were down there, but it wasn't finished enough. So, you know, we'll take it back next time and see how they like it then." (long pause) JOHN: (jokingly) "Well... that's all from MY end!" (laughter) MONTY: "I would like to just ask you-- and we're recording this at Hume Hall, Port Sunlight-- Did any of you come over to this side before you became famous, as it were? Do you know this district?" PAUL: "Well, we played here, uhh... I don't know what you mean by famous, you know. (laughter) PAUL: "If being famous is being in the Hit Parade, we've been over here-- we were here about two months ago. Been here twice, haven't we?" JOHN: "I've got relations here. Rock Ferry." MONTY: "Have you?" JOHN: "Yes. Oh, all sides of the water, you know." PAUL: "Yeah, I've got a relation in Claughton Village-- Upton Road." RINGO: (jokingly) "I've got a friend in Birkenhead!" (laughter) MONTY: "I wish I had." GEORGE: (jokingly) "I know a man in Chester!" (laughter) MONTY: "Now, that's a very dangerous thing to say. There's a mental home there, mate. Peter Smethurst is here as well, and he looks like he is bursting with a question." PETER SMETHURST: "There is just one question I'd like to ask. I'm sure it's the question everyone's asking. I'd like your impressions on your first appearance on television."

PAUL: "Well, strangely enough, we thought we were gonna be dead nervous. And everyone said, 'You suddenly, when you see the cameras, you realize that there are two million people watching,' because there were two million watching that 'People And Places' that we did... we heard afterwards. But, strangely enough, it didn't come to us. We didn't think at all about that. And it was much easier doing the television than it was doing the (live musical performance) radio. It's still nerve-wracking, but it was a bit easier than doing radio because there was a full audience for the radio broadcast." MONTY: "Do you find it nerve-wracking doing this now?" (laughter) PAUL: (jokingly) "Yeah, yeah." MONTY: "Over at Cleaver Hospital, a certain record on Parlophone-- the top side has been requested. So perhaps the Beatles themselves would like to tell them what it's going to be." PAUL: "Yeah. Well, I think it's gonna be 'Love Me Do.'" JOHN: "Parlophone R4949." (laughter) PAUL: "'Love Me Do.'" MONTY: "And I'm sure, for them, the answer is P.S. I love you!" PAUL: "Yeah."

FEBRUARY 1st 1963 NEW MUSICAL EXPRESS INTERVIEWED BY ALAN SMITH

Things are beginning to move for the Beatles, the R&B styled British group which crashed into the NME charts this week at No. 17. The disc -- 'Please Please Me' -- follows closely on the heels of their first hit 'Love Me Do,' written by group members John Lennon and Paul McCartney. Says Paul: "We also wrote 'Please Please Me,' but that hasn't exhausted our supply of compositions. We've got nearly a hundred up our sleeves, and we're writing all the time! "I suppose 'writing' is the wrong word. John and I just hammer out a number on our instruments. If we want anyone to hear it, we record it, then send them a tape. "We've had disappointments, but coming in at No. 17 has pleased-pleased us!" he quipped. The boys are rehearsing their act for the forthcoming Helen Shapiro tour when I met them in their hometown of Liverpool on Sunday. And at Norrie Paramor's request, they were composing a song for Helen to record when she goes to Nashville shortly. Said Paul: "We've called it 'Misery,' but it isn't as slow as it sounds. It moves along at quite a steady pace, and we think Helen will make a pretty good job of it. We've also done a number for Duffy Power which he's going to record." This isn't the Beatles' first taste of success. The clipped negro sound they achieve has brought them a fantastic following in Germany, where they had a Polydor single in the charts more than a year ago. They spent Christmas performing in Hamburg -- their fifth visit.

In the North of England, too, they've built up a reputation that takes some beating. In the past I've seen them billed with equal prominence alongside such names as Little Richard and Joe Brown! Talking of Little Richard, the rock 'n' roll star became one of the Beatles' biggest fans during his recent visit. He told me: "I've never heard that sound from English musicians before. Honestly, if I hadn't seen them with my own eyes I'd have thought they were a colored group from back home." So far it seems that only Northern fans and visiting American stars have appreciated their talents (the Crickets went overboard when they heard them), but 'Please Please Me' will change everything. Already Southerners have been flocking to buy the disc since it was released two weeks ago. Comments John: "We tried to make it as simple as possible. Some of the stuff we've written in the past has been a bit way-out, but we aimed this one straight at the hit parade." At the sessions at which 'Please Please Me' was recorded, shortly before Christmas, the boys' recording manager, George Martin, told me: "The thing I like about the Beatles is their great sense of humor as well as their talent." It looks like a bright future for the Beatles, but knowing them, I don't think they'll let it go to their heads. It'll be a long time, for instance, before they forget the time they provided the music for Janice the Stripper in a Liverpool nightclub...!

JUNE 22nd 1963 TELEVISION THEATRE, LONDON JOHN LENNON APPEARANCE ON JUKE BOX JURY HOSTED BY DAVID JACOBS (AIRED ON JUNE 29th 1963)

Song heard: So Much In Love - The Tymes JOHN: "Uhh, I thought it was Rolf Harris at first. And then I thought, 'No, it's the Drifters.' And then it's just... you know. It's nobody." (giggling from the panel) JOHN: "I don't think it's a hit." DAVID JACOBS: "You didn't like it?" JOHN: "Well, it was alright, you know. The style was alright but it wasn't good enough in that idiom. (pause, then comically) Idiom?" (laughter) (John votes by holding up the MISS card) Song heard: The Click Song - Miriam Makeba and the Belafonte Singers JOHN: "It's nice you know... Not for that reason. Because, you know, these foreign records -- this kind of, you know, the language -- It just didn't go. It's quite nice actually, but if it was in English it'd mean even less." (laughter) JOHN: "It's intriguing because it's foreign, you know. But you can pick them out a mile away with all the gimmicks and all the different styles." (John votes by holding up the MISS card)

Song heard: Flamenco - Russ Conway JOHN: "I like pianos and things, but not sort of pub pianos playing flamenco music, with 'click click.' It doesn't work, you know. It still sounds... It still sounds honky, you know. It doesn't sound anything like flamenco." DAVID JACOBS: "Yeah." JOHN: "He hasn't pinched the best bits of real Spanish music, I don't think. Sorry." (John votes by holding up the MISS card) Song heard: Devil In Disguise - Elvis Presley JOHN: "Well, you know, I used to go mad on Elvis, like all the groups, but not now. I don't like this. And I hate songs with 'walk' and 'talk' in it -- you know, those lyrics. She walks, she talks. I don't like that. And I don't like the double beat: doom-cha doom-cha, that bit. It's awful. (pause) Poor ol' Elvis." (laughter) BRUCE PROCHNIK: "Your heart bleeds for him." JOHN: "Well, I've got all his early records and I keep playing them. He mustn't make another like this. But somebody said today he sounds like Bing Crosby now, and he does." (laughter) JOHN: "There'll be people writing in now. I know what they're saying (comically in a low, slow voice) 'What d'ya mean!?'" (laughter) JOHN: "I don't like him anymore." KATIE BOYLE: "If he did sound like Bing Crosby, would it be bad?" JOHN: "Well, for Elvis... yes." (laughter) (John votes by holding up the MISS card) Song heard: On Top Of Spaghetti - Tom Glaser JOHN: "Oh. I can't stand these all-together-now records. I like the idea of one shouting and one answering, but not that. I prefer the recent Little Eva, Smokey-Locomotion, folks. But not that, you know. (describing the group-sing-a-long nature of Glaser's song) It's like an outing." DAVID JACOBS: "Yeah." JOHN: "A coach trip." (John votes by holding up the MISS card) Song heard: First Quarrel - Paul and Paula JOHN: "Well, I like their first record (Hey Paula), because I like the octave singing -- her singing, you know, one above him. And it wasn't bad. I didn't buy it. And the second one, you know, wasn't worth bothering. And this.. this has 'Jim' in, you know. All these American records are always about Jim and Bobby and Alfred and all this." (laughter) JOHN: "I don't like it." (John votes by holding up the MISS card) Song heard: Don't Ever Let Me Down - Julie Grant JOHN: "Ahh, I can't think of a thing to say. At the beginning I thought, you know, 'Oh, it's one of those with an intro,' but the intro wasn't strong enough."

DAVID JACOBS: "Do you like girls records or not?" JOHN: "Yeah, I like girl singers. I like Shirelles and Chiffons, you know. They're different. But I can't think of any girl in particular." DAVID JACOBS: "But not that particular record." JOHN: "No." (John votes by holding up the MISS card)

JULY 30th 1963 PLAYHOUSE THEATRE, LONDON, BBC INTERVIEWED BY PHIL TATE FOR 'POP CHAT' SEGMENT OF NON-STOP POP

Q: "Our guests this week on 'Pop Chat' are The Beatles -- John, Paul, George and Ringo. Let's start off with you, Ringo. Everybody knows that the Beatles are a Liverpool group, but were you all actually born in Liverpool?" RINGO: "Yes, every one of us." Q: "Are you keeping your homes in Liverpool, or do you plan to move into London, or anything like that?" RINGO: "I don't think any of us are moving. We must have a base in London, you know, because we're there more than we are in Liverpool at the moment. But we're not moving our houses." Q: "John, over to you for a minute. You do alot of songwriting of late. Do you always work as a team?" JOHN: "Well, mainly. All the better songs that we have written -- the ones that anybody wants to hear -- those were co-written." Q: "Do you write the words and music together, or does one of you write the words?" JOHN: "Yeah, well... Sometimes half the words are written by me and he'll finish them off. We go along a word each, practically." Q: "Did you write your new record release?" JOHN: "Uhh... 'She Loves You'? Yeah." PAUL: "Yeah." JOHN: "We wrote that two days before we recorded it, actually." PAUL: "We wrote it in a hotel room in Newcastle." Q: "This brings me to a question from one of your fans. How did the distinctive hairstyle come about?" GEORGE: "Well, umm... I don't think any of us had been bothered with having haircuts, and it was always long. Paul and John went to Paris and came back with it -- something like this. And I went to the baths and came out with it like this." Q: "Another fan was anxious to know how you manage to get any private life. I mean -If you take a girl out, how do you avoid being recognized, Paul?" PAUL: "Uhh, I don't know... just sort of run." Q: "Now, John, I know you have very little time for anything but music at the moment. But if you had spare time -- What sort of hobbies and sports do you enjoy?"

JOHN: "Well, none of us are very sporty, you know. The only sport we do bother with is swimming. We don't count it as a sport, but... And hobbies are just writing songs."

AUGUST 23rd 1963 BACKSTAGE, GAUMONT CINEMA, BOURNEMOUTH INTERVIEWED BY KLAS BURLING FOR SWEDISH RADIO

KLAS: "On my left is a boy... sounding like what?" RINGO: "Uhh, Ringo. That's me. You know me. (imitates drums) Ting-cha, bump bahbump!" KLAS: "This would be the drums." RINGO: "Yeah, that's... Well..." KLAS: "Well.." (Beatles giggle) KLAS: "And after that we've got..?" GEORGE: "George Harrison." KLAS: "Playing..?" GEORGE: "Guitar." KLAS: "Solo guitar." GEORGE: "Yes. (imitates guitar) Dee deena-lee, deena-lee dee dee." (laughter) KLAS: "Next in line is..?" JOHN: (imitates guitar) "Ja-jing jing jing, ja-ja jing jing." (laughter) JOHN: "John." RINGO: "Lennon." JOHN: "Rhythmus." (Beatles giggle) KLAS: "And on my right side is..?" PAUL: (imitates bass) "boom bah-boom boom, bah-boom boom. Paul McCartney." KLAS: "All from Liverpool, known as..?" PAUL & JOHN: "The Beatles." KLAS: "Yeah, that's right. You've had some hits in Sweden, and have you ever thought about coming to Sweden?" RINGO: "Well, we'd like to, you know. But we're so busy at the moment. I don't think we'll get there until sometime next year, if we go at all." PAUL: "Actually, you know, we want to come because we've heard about the girls in Sweden. All gorgous blondes. you know." GEORGE & JOHN: "Yeah." KLAS: "That's Paul, and he's supposed to be the sweet boy in this family, no?" PAUL: (jokingly) "Aww, shuttup." (laughter) JOHN: "His dad was a Mars bar."

PAUL: (laughs) KLAS: "And George, you would like to go..." GEORGE: "I would like to go to Sweden, yes." KLAS: "By the side, by the way, is Michael Cox. An old fried of yours..." RINGO: "Yeah...!" JOHN: (loudly) "Hello, Michael Cox!" PAUL: "He's from Liverpool, too." GEORGE: "How is he?" MICHAEL COX: "Fine, fine." KLAS: "And he has told you a lot about Sweden, and so on." GEORGE: "Yes." KLAS: "You're still interested?" BEATLES: "Yeah!" RINGO: "More than ever." KLAS: "After this we'll get to your recording of 'Twist And Shout.' I watched you, and John you are singing..." JOHN: "Shouting it." KLAS: "Yeah, you're shouting it, really. How do you feel from that... the throat?" JOHN: "Well, ehm, at first it was hard. But when I do it twice a night, it's easy." (imitates dog barking) (laughter) JOHN: (giggling) "It's quite easy now. Practice, you know, if I keep shouting every night. But a year ago I couldn't sing it." KLAS: "And another thing in your stage act, John, is all that SICK humor. You've got funny hands, and..." JOHN: "Well, I thought it was quite healthy." KLAS: (laughs) RINGO: "It's not sick. He's just a cripple." (laughter) JOHN: (giggling) "I'm not, I'm not!" (laughter) JOHN: "I'm quite normal, my Swedish friends." (laughter, the Beatles recording of 'Twist And Shout' is played) KLAS: "The songwriters in the Beatles, they are John Lennon and Paul McCartney." JOHN: (monotone) "Hurray." KLAS: "Tell us something about how you find a song... how you get the idea about a song, to write it down." JOHN: "Well, sometimes it's the words first, and then the music after." KLAS: "Very often you've got a title, you know... Me and you, and everything like that?" PAUL: "Yeah. We try to do that, to make it personal so it's... so we really mean it. When we sing a thing about 'I love you,' it's easier." JOHN: (singing) "'And don't you forget it!'" JOHN & PAUL: (singing together, jokingly) "'I love you and don't you forget it!'" PAUL: "Well, you see, it's easier than singing something about the cat that lives on the hill, man."

(laughter) PAUL: "It's a lot easier just to sing about what you feel yourself." KLAS: "And you've given a lot of nice numbers to Billy J. Kramer." JOHN: (loudly) "Well, he's our good friend and mate... buddy... pal... friend." PAUL: "Yeah. Listen to 'Bad To Me,' folks." KLAS: "Your latest recording is called..? PAUL: "It's called 'She Loves You.' And there's story to this one, how we wrote it. We were on tour with Roy Orbison, and Gerry and the Pacemakers. And we were in Newcastle, up north of England, and we were in a hotel room. We had about three days left in which to write a song. We had a recording date set for three days from this date. So we went to the hotel and we booked in a room, and we just decided that we have to write a song very quickly. So we sat down, no ideas came for a bit. But eventually we got an idea. 'She Loves You' came, you know. It was just lucky." KLAS: "But from the start that was supposed to be the B-side, John?" JOHN: "The B-side of 'She Loves You' was meant to be the A-side. And the same for 'From Me To you.' The B-Side of 'From Me To You' was the A-side, and then we wrote another song after." KLAS: "Well, it..." JOHN: "Came out better." PAUL: "Yeah, see, we write one song, then we can get going then after that and get more ideas after having written one song. So we wrote 'I'll Get You' which is the B-side, first. And then 'She Loves You' came after that, you know. We got ideas from that, and we recorded it." KLAS: "Yes." PAUL: "And there ya go." KLAS: "It sounds very easy, all of it." JOHN: "Sometimes it's easy. Sometimes it's hard." RINGO: (jokingly) "We find it difficult sometimes!" (laughter) KLAS: (jokingly) "Thanks Ringo." (John and Paul giggle) KLAS: "Well, singing too. All of you. You're singing, actually." PAUL: "Yeah, we all sing." JOHN: "The Singing Dogs." RINGO: "You know me... 'Boys.'" (Beatles laugh) PAUL: "We've written a new song for Ringo which we are gonna do on our new LP." KLAS: "Yes, what about that new LP? When?" JOHN: "It's September, isn't it?" PAUL: "No, it's November." JOHN: (jokingly perturbed at being corrected) "Okay, okay!" (laughter) PAUL: "Don't know when it'll get to Sweden, though, but we hope it'll get there in November. (nasal voice) And we hope it sells!" KLAS: "Alright."

PAUL: "That's all I can say." KLAS: "Alright. RIght now, we'll listen to 'She Loves You.'" (Beatles yell 'Hurray!' and applaud) PAUL: "More!" RINGO: "Play it twice." ('She Loves You' is played)

AUGUST 28th 1963 BBC STUDIOS MANCHESTER INTERVIEWED FOR THE MERSEY SOUND DOCUMENTARY (STUDIO SET UP TO LOOK AS IF THEY WERE IN A DRESSING ROOM) INTERVIEWED BY DON HAWORTH???

JOHN: "The best thing was (Love Me Do) came to the charts in two days. And everybody thought it was a fiddle because our manager's stores send in these... what is it... record things." GEORGE: "Returns." JOHN: "Returns. And everybody down south thought 'Oh, aha! He's buying them himself or he's just fiddlin' the charts,' you know, but he wasn't." GEORGE: "Actually we'd been at it a long time before that. We'd been to Hamburg. I think that's where we found our style... we developed our style because of this fella. He used to say, 'You've got to make a show for the people.' And he used to come up every night, shouting 'Mach schau! Mach schau!' So we used to mach schau, and John used to dance around like a gorilla, and we'd all, you know, knock our heads together and things like that. Anyway, we got back to Liverpool and all the groups there were doing 'Shadows' type of stuff. And we came back with leather jackets and jeans and funny hair-maching schau-- which went down quite well." JOHN: "We just wore leather jackets. Not for the group-- one person wore one, I can't remember-- and then we all liked them so it ended up we were all on stage with them. And we'd always worn jeans 'cuz we didn't have anything else at the time, you know. And then we went back to Liverpool and got quite a few bookings. They all thought we were German. You know, we were billed as 'From Hamburg' and they all said, 'You speak good English.' (smiles) So we went back to Germany and we had a bit more money the second time, so we wore leather pants-- and we looked like four Gene Vincents, only a bit younger, I think. (smiles) And that was it, you know. We just kept the leather gear till Brian (Epstein) came along." PAUL: "It was a bit, sort of, old hat anyway-- all wearing leather gear-- and we decided we didn't want to look ridiculous going home. Because more often than not too many people would laugh. It was just stupid. We didn't want to appear as a gang of idiots. And Brian suggested that we just, sort of, wore ordinary suits. So we just got what we thought were quite good suits, and got rid of the leather gear. That was all." (Next, the topic of discussion turned to the present fame of the group, and the sudden glare of media attention.)

GEORGE: "We do like the fans and enjoy reading the publicity about us, but sometimes you don't realize that it's about yourself. You see your pictures and read articles about George Harrison, Ringo Starr, Paul and John-- but you don't actually think 'Oh, that's me. There I am in the paper.' (smiles) It's funny. It's just as though it's a different person." RINGO: "When we go home, we go in early in the morning when we've finished a job, and the kids don't know you're at home. But if they find out, where I live, they get the drums out and beat it out! (laughs) 'Cuz it's a play street and, you know, there's no traffic or nothing bothering them. Once when the boys came for me-- they popped in to see me Mum and me Dad, you know-- we had to go out the back 'cuz there were twenty or thirty outside. And they wouldn't believe me mother, you know, knocking and saying 'Can we have their autographs.' So it built up so much. There was about two hundred kids all around the door, peeping through the window and knocking." (Beatles giggling) RINGO: (laughs) "In the end, me mother was ill, you know-- terrified out of her life-with just all these kids and boys and girls, you know." GEORGE: "They send us alot of Jellybabies and chocolates and things like that, just because somebody wrote in one of the papers about presents and things that we'd had given to us. And John said he'd got some Jellybabies and I ate them. But ever since that we've been inundated. We get about two-ton a night. (smiles) But the main trouble is they tend to throw them at us when were on stage. (laughs) And, uhh, once I got one in my eye which wasn't very nice. (holds finger to eye) In fact I haven't been the same since." JOHN: "It all sounds complaining, but you know, we're not. We're just putting the point that it affects your home more than it does yourself, you know, because you know what to expect but your parents and family don't know what's happening." (The Beatles were then asked what they saw in their own future, and how long their fame might last.) JOHN: "'How long are you gonna last?' Well, you can't say, you know. You can be bigheaded and say, 'Yeah, we're gonna last ten years.' But as soon as you've said that you think, 'We're lucky if we last three months,' you know." PAUL: "Well, obviously we can't keep playing the same sort of music until we're about forty-- sort of, old men playing 'From Me To You'-- nobody is going to want to know at all about that sort of thing. You know, we've thought about it, and probably the thing that John and I will do, uhh, will be write songs-- as we have been doing as a sort of sideline now-- we'll probably develop that a bit more we hope. Who knows. At forty, we may not know how to write songs anymore." GEORGE: "I hope to have enough money to go into a business of my own by the time we, umm, do 'flop.' (laughs) And we don't know-- it may be next week, it may be two or three years. But I think we'll be in the business, either up there or down there, for at least another four years." RINGO: "I've always fancied having a ladies hairdressing salon." (Beatles giggling) RINGO: (undeterred) "You know, a string of them, in fact! Strut 'round in me stripes and

tails, you know. 'Like a cup of tea, Madam?'"

OCTOBER 3rd 1963 NEMS OFFICES, LONDON, BBC, THE PUBLIC EAR INTERVIEWED BY MICHAEL COLLEY

PAUL: "It wasn't so much that we foresaw a big success. We just never thought that anything particularly bad would happen to us. We never felt... never sat down at one particular point at all and, sort of, worried about anything. We've always thought that something would turn up sometime." GEORGE: "We have been misquoted -- people saying we make 7,000 a week, and all that." PAUL: "I wish we did." GEORGE: "We probably do make quite a bit but we don't actually see it, because record royalties, things like that, take months before they come in. And anyway..." JOHN: "Hotel cost a fortune." GEORGE: "Yeah, my mother cost a fortune." (Beatles laugh) GEORGE: "But we've also got an accountant and a company, Beatles Limited. They see the money. The thing is, indirectly, we are and we aren't doing it for the money, really, because don't forget -- We played for about three or four years or maybe longer just earning hardly anything. Well, we wouldn't have lived on that. If we were doing it for the money, we wouldn't have lasted out all those years. But the money does help, let's face it. Yeah, we all love being on-stage and..." JOHN: "I haven't got the patience to practice to become a 'perfect' guitarist, you know. I'm more interested in the combination of my voice and the guitar I know, and to write songs, than I am in the instrument. So I never go through a day hardly without playing it whether I'm performing or not, you know." PAUL: "George is the one of us who is interested in the instrument. GEORGE: "Well, I don't PRACTICE." PAUL: "But the other three of us are more interested in the sound of the group." GEORGE: "To be a guitarist, you're supposed to practice a couple of hours a day. But, I mean, I don't do that." RINGO: "To be ANYTHING, you're supposed to practice a couple of hours a day." PAUL: "Yeah." GEORGE: "Well you know, I mean, the thing is... Individually we're all... (pause) I suppose we're all crummy musicians, really."

OCTOBER 4th 1963 ASSOCIATED-REDIFFUSION TV STUDIOS, LONDON INTERVIEWED BY DUSTY SPRINGFIELD FOR READY STEADY GO!

DUSTY: "Paul, I've got some questions to ask you here. Please could you tell me the name of your racing greyhound?" PAUL: "Uhh, I haven't got one, actually." DUSTY: "You haven't?" PAUL: "No. Well, a girl sent in a letter to me, and she said, 'Would you like a gra... a gracing rayhound!' And I said 'Yeah!' but she hasn't sent it yet." DUSTY: "She hasn't? Awww." CROWD: (in exaggerated sympathy) "Awwww!!" DUSTY: "I'm sure she loves you." PAUL: "She hasn't sent it yet, but I hope she does though." DUSTY: "Is it true you sleep with you eyes open?" PAUL: "Umm, well you know, I haven't seen myself do it..." (laughter) PAUL: "But actually, the fellas say that I do. They've, sort of, seen me sleeping with my eyes open." DUSTY: "How can you do that?" PAUL: "I don't know, you know... just sort of half open." DUSTY: "You're just clever... you're just Brilliant, Paul." (crowd giggles) DUSTY: (reading) "Please ask Paul if he plucks his well-shaped eyebrows." (laughter) PAUL: "Umm, no." DUSTY: "You don't. It doesn't look so. You're absolutely beautiful. Paul, do you mind girls screaming all through your act?"

PAUL: "Uhh, no. We like 'em screaming, generally, all of us. But it's a bit much all the way through. But we love 'em screaming." JOHN: (comically) "Hear, hear!" (the girls cheer and applaud in approval) DUSTY: (turning to John) "This is a question which you've been asked a thousand times before but you always, all of you, give different versions or different answers. So you've got to tell me now... How did the Beatles get their name?" JOHN: "I just thought of it." (comically proud facial expression) (crowd cheers) DUSTY: "Were they called anything else before?" JOHN: "They were called the Quarrymen." (comically giggles) DUSTY: "You rugged character! ...Oh John, listen. (reading) Do you have false teeth, as they always look so even?" JOHN: "No! (scratches front teeth with fingernail) They're all chipped and battered." (laughter) DUSTY: "Girls, would you say his teeth were chipped and battered?" CROWD: (in unison) "NO!" JOHN: "No, they're real." DUSTY: "Is it true that, when you were a kid, you were shot at for stealing apples?" JOHN: "Yeah." (laughter) DUSTY: (gesturing to the side of his face) "Is that what these beautiful marks are?" JOHN: "No, they're scabs." (laughter) DUSTY: "There's nothing there at all, really. He's got a quite beautiful complexion."

JOHN: (suggestively, joking with Dusty) "Let me see YOUR scabs!" PAUL: (objecting comically) "HEY!" (laughter)

OCTOBER 16th 1963 PLAYHOUSE THEATRE, LONDON INTERVIEWED BY PETER WOODS FOR BBC RADIO

Q: "Well lads... Almost unknown in January, and now going to the Royal Command Performance in November. This is quite a rise even for 'your' business, isn't it Paul?" PAUL: "Yes a bit. It's been very quick and we have been very lucky." Q: "How much of this is due, do you think, to your musical talent?" PAUL: "Uhh, dunno. No Idea. You just can't tell, you know. Maybe a lot of it, maybe none of it." Q: (to john) "How much would you have said?" JOHN: "I agree with Paul, you know." Q: "How much of this is getting popularity by acting the fool a bit and playing around?" JOHN: "Well I mean, that's just natural. We don't... We do it anyway, whether we're onstage or not." Q: "But your funny haircuts aren't natural?" JOHN: (comical voice) "Well, we don't think they're funny, ya see... cobber?" (laughter) Q: "George, can I turn to you now? How long do you think you're going to be successful? You've had this monumental rise. Obviously this sort of thing can't go on, but do you think you can settle down to a life in show business?" GEORGE: "Well, we're hoping to. I mean, not necessarily a 'life' in show business, but at least a couple more years." Q: "A long run." GEORGE: "Yeah. I mean, if we do as well as Cliff (Richards) and The Shadows have done up to now, well I mean, we won't be moaning." RINGO: "Very happy." GEORGE: "I mean, naturally, it can't go on as it has been going the last few months. It'd just be ridiculous." Q: "How do you find all this business of having screaming girls following you all over the place?" GEORGE: "Well, we feel flattered." JOHN: "...and flattened." (Beatles laugh) GEORGE: (giggling) "Yeah, and flattened. But I mean, if the screaming fans weren't there then we wouldn't be here, would we."

Q: "Paul, coming quickly back to you again. Mister Edward Heath, the Lord Privy Seal, has said that the other night he found it hard to distinguish what you were saying as Queen's English." PAUL: "Ah, yes." Q: "Now, are you going to try and lose some of your Liverpool dialect for the Royal show?" PAUL: "No, are you kidding. No, we wouldn't bother doing that." GEORGE: "We just won't vote for him." (Beatles laugh) PAUL: (jokingly, in upperclass dialect) "We don't all speak like them BBC posh fellas, you know?" Q: "Right well, with that, I better wish you good luck in the show. What song will you be singing most there, do you think?" PAUL: (upperclass dialect) "Well, I don't know, but I should imagine we'd do 'She Loves You.'" (Beatles erupt in stuffy, mock-upperclass laughter) PAUL & JOHN: "Jolly good, jolly good."

OCTOBER 31st 1963 LONDON AIRPORT, INTERVIEWER UNKNOWN

Q: "Paul, have you thought about your act for this show yet? Any changes in the act, or is it going to be, you know, the usual routine?" PAUL: "No, we'll have to change it I'm sure. We can't do the same thing all the time. We haven't thought about what we're gonna do yet." Q: "Suits with collars on? Brush part in hair? Anything like that?" PAUL: (jokingly) "You never know. We might not wear suits! You never know! No idea." Q: "John, in this Royal Variety Show when you're appearing before royalty, you're language has got to be pretty good obviously-- this thing about Teddy saying that he couldn't distinguish your... The Queen's English." JOHN: (mock upperclass dialect) "I can't understand Teddy! I can't understand Teddy saying that at all, really." (smiles) (laughter) JOHN: (serious look into camera) "I'm not going to vote for Ted."

PAUL: (quietly) "Oooo." Q: "But you're not going to change your act for the Lord Privy Seal?" JOHN: (exaggerated lowerclass dialect) "Ah no, like, we'll keep, like, the same kinda thing, like. Won't we?" PAUL: "Oh! Aye, yes!" JOHN: "That's right." PAUL: (laughs)

NOVEMBER 7th 1963 TV INTERVIEW, DUBLIN AIRPORT, IRELAND INTERVIEWED BY FRANK HALL

Q: "Tell me first of all, is the haircut an act by accident or design?" JOHN: "Accident." Q: "You didn't have time to get your hair cut in the first place?" JOHN: "No, it just happened, you know. Ringo's was by design because he joined later." RINGO: "Yeah, I designed it." (laughter) Q: "How often do you get your hair cut, by the way?" JOHN: "Uhh, well we don't -- we try not to mention that." PAUL: "It's a dirty word." Q: "This new breed that's coming up -- the Liverpool Sound -- It's a bit of a puzzle to some of us older people especially in Ireland. Could you define it for me?" GEORGE: "It's a puzzle to us, too." PAUL: "It's not really a Liverpool Sound, you know." JOHN: "There's no such thing." PAUL: "It just so happens that the new groups that have come out all happen to have come from Liverpool, so people sort of generalize a bit and say, 'Aha! The Liverpool Sound!' but really, you know, if you listen to the groups they're all quite different. It's not all one big sound that's coming out." Q: "Well, it's no use saying, 'Are you surprised by your success,' because quite clearly you're not a bit surprised." PAUL: "We are!" JOHN: "Oh, we are surprised, but you're just sort of, you know, so surprised that it doesn't even register." PAUL: "I mean, you can't... If we look surprised everyday, we'd look off our heads!"

Q: (laughs) "About your Irish backgrounds..." PAUL: "Yeah, I think we've all got a bit." (screaming airplane engine drowns out the interview. John comically plugs his ears and grins. Paul yells "Cut!!" Everyone waits several moments for the noise to pass. Paul nods and smiles at the camera man and asks, "Still going?") Q: (laughs) JOHN: "Irish backgrounds, we were on." Q: (to john) "I think I saw you being greeted by somebody outside." JOHN: "No, no, that was George." GEORGE: "That was me, that was me. Yeah. Well actually, it was my mother." (Beatles laugh) GEORGE: (laughs) "She came over here, you know, because she's got hundreds of cousins and relatives over here, and then she hadn't seen us for weeks anyway 'cuz we've been away. So she's come to see the show and to see her cousins. And one of the cousins was here with her." Q: (jokingly) "Your mother has to come to Ireland to see you?" GEORGE: "Yeah." (laughs) Q: "Well, this in a way kind of typifies the kind of extraordinary upset that must occur in your private lives. Do you get home at all?" GEORGE: "Uhh, yeah. Sometimes you get home for a whole week. But sometimes you don't get home for months on end." PAUL: "It's normally about one day in, say, three weeks." GEORGE: (jokingly) "Mind you, a new idea -- telephones -- help a bit, you know." Q: "Oh, I'm sure. God bless Graham Bell." PAUL: "Yeah." GEORGE: "Freddie Bell." (laughter) Q: "Does the continuous living together and working together cause any tempermental stress on you?" PAUL: "No, actually it's quite lucky because we've been..." BEATLES: (singing together) "'We've Been Together Now For Forty Yeeeears!'" PAUL: "You know, we've all been mates for quite a long time so we don't get on each other's nerves as much as we could." (mock fighting breaks out between them) PAUL: "We're quite friendly." Q: (laughing) "Yeah, so I see. So far as I can see, the greater portion of your public seems to be female. To what do you attribute this extraordinary success? Alot of people here would be very interested to know this." RINGO: "You can't make it out, you know." JOHN: "We're male, aren't we!!" (laughter) JOHN: "It'd be a bit funny if they were all fellas. (effeminate voice) 'Oh! get away!'" (John, Paul and George share a private joke quietly, ignoring Ringo's response) RINGO: "It's very nice, you know. We don't know why. If we knew we'd be 'made' more or less. You'd just go and get about six groups like us who are attractive to women..."

(Realizing he is rattling on and no one is listening anymore, Ringo comically begins straying from the topic completely.) RINGO: "I forgot my mac, and so I said to John, 'If you don't fetch yours, it's gonna rain,' you see. And he said..." (Beatles crack up at Ringo's gibberish) PAUL: "What are you talking about?!" Q: "We're talking about your appeal to the feminine sex. I've come to the conclusion that whatever it is, it's bigger than the four of you." PAUL: "Oh aye! That's right."

NOVEMBER 12th 1963 TV SHOW 'DAY BY DAY' INTERVIEWED BY JEREMY JAMES

Q: "Are you beginning to find the strain of this going around the country at this tremendous speed getting you down a bit?" BEATLES: (laughing) "NO!!" JOHN: (giggling) "No, we like it. It's great." PAUL: "You know us." Q: "You don't find it frightening, this business of being mobbed and having to go through all these rigamaroles to get here?" JOHN: "No. The police get mobbed, we don't." PAUL: "It's always well organized, you know. Tonight was very good." Q: "How did you get here tonight?" PAUL: "A van." Q: "You're getting so much publicity these days, and even the 'egghead' papers are writing about you. Have you been just a little bit worried that you might be going over the top fairly soon?" JOHN: "No, you know. When you gotta go, you gotta go." (Beatles laugh) Q: "What are you going to do when your time comes?" GEORGE: "Sail on me yacht." (laughter) JOHN: "Yeah." RINGO: "We don't know. We haven't got any definite ideas what we're all gonna do." JOHN: (gesturing to Ringo's scarf) "Been to college, have you?" RINGO: "Yeah, it's me school scarf. Borstal High." (laughter) Q: (to Ringo, referring to the reason for the scarf) A touch of throat?" RINGO: "Yeah. (coughs, then continues jokingly) There's nothing wrong with it!!" (laughter) RINGO: "I always talk like this." Q: "You're not thinking of giving up the Big Beat stuff and going in for some harmony

singing? Because one or two people said you're very good harmony singers." JOHN: "Well, we do it, you know. There's harmony in the big beat. It just happens to have a beat as well. All of our records have had some kind of harmony on them." Q: "I noticed in the Royal show that you did one ballad number. Is this something you're going to do more of?" JOHN: "We've been singing it for about five years, and we've always done numbers like that. It's just that we're known for faster numbers." Q: "Do you like the ballads?" JOHN: "If they're good. You know, there's good ballads and good beats." Q: "How did you enjoy the Royal Variety show?" GEORGE: "It was great. Fabulous. It was very good, you know. The audience was much better than we expected." JOHN: (jokingly) "Much taller." GEORGE: "Yeah."

NOVEMBER 13th 1963 WESTWARD TV STUDIOS, PLYMOUTH INTERVIEWED BY STUART HUTCHISON FOR MOVE OVER DAD

HUTCHISON: "Well Paul, how are you after your collapse we read about?" PAUL: "I didn't really collapse. That was just the naughty newspapers, writing it. Misquote! Nah, I just had a bit of flu, you know. I'm fine today, thank you." HUTCHISON: "You're feeling alright?" PAUL: (comical voice) "Lovely. Real lovely." HUTCHISON: "How are the rest of you? How are you going to avoid catching...?" JOHN: (in pathetic voice) "We're fine, thank you." GEORGE: "Oh, we're OK. Yeah, great." HUTCHISON: "Are you taking any cold prevention, now?" PAUL: "Yeah, I'm taking 'em all. Got 'em all." JOHN: (quietly) "It's only one-and-six a tube." (Paul giggles) HUTCHISON: "How about these escape plans you keep beating about? You got out of one place disguised as policemen." BEATLES: "No, no!" GEORGE: "We didn't, actually. We put the policemen's helmets on..." PAUL: "Just for a laugh, you know." GEORGE: "Yeah." PAUL: "The policemen said, 'Aww, let's have a laugh, and put these helmets...'" GEORGE: "We jumped out of the van, and you know... The press were there to take the photographs, so we jumped out with the helmets on. So the next day it was..." PAUL: "The next day you read in the papers..." GEORGE: "...here they are, disguised." RINGO: "Have you ever seen a policeman in a corduroy coat?" JOHN: "I have. I saw one back in 1832, I think."

RINGO: "He knows, you see." HUTCHISON: "Did you put the helmets on over the haircuts?" PAUL: "Yeah." RINGO: "Sure." JOHN: "Well, we couldn't put them underneath." (Beatles laugh) PAUL: "And I also read in the papers today, there's a man who said we wear wigs!" RINGO: (loudly) "WE DON'T!" PAUL: "We don't. Honest. Feel it." HUTCHISON: "True. It's lovely, yes. Oh, on this program a few weeks ago, somebody said the Beatles haircut was going out because the fringe was so long you couldn't see the birds. What comment have you got to make on that?" JOHN: (yells) "IT'S A DIRTY LIE!" GEORGE: (laughs) PAUL: "We can see quite well. I can see quite well, thanks, John." GEORGE: "Well, some of us can." (laughter) HUTCHISON: "Are you looking forward to doing it tonight?" BEATLES: "Yeah!" PAUL: "Of course." HUTCHISON: "Well, they've all been looking forward to seeing you, and they're out there now. Thank you very much, boys." BEATLES: "Thank you." JOHN: "Pleasure."

NOVEMBER 29, 1963 BACKSTAGE, ABC CINEMA, HUDDERSFIELD INTERVIEWED BY GORDON KAYE Q: "What do you think of (the fans) coming in and then screaming..?" GEORGE: "Well, they've payed the money so they can scream, can't they. I mean, if they haven't payed and they were screaming, it'd be a liberty, wouldn't it!" (Beatles laugh) PAUL: "Oh aye, oh aye." RINGO: "Would, that, Georgie." Q: "What is your, sort of, 'perfect touch' in music? Beethoven, for instance?" GEORGE: "No. I like trad jazz, you know, Kenny Ball and all that." PAUL: (to George) "You don't... you told me you didn't." GEORGE: "I do. I changed. Washington Square, got it." Q: "Now then, let's know a little bit about your personal life. What do you like to do in your spare time when you get it?" PAUL: "Spare time? Ehh, Go to the pictures or watch telly, or umm read. (laughs) Read comics, you know." (Beatles giggle) Q: "What sort of films do you like?"

PAUL: "What sort of films... uhh, just ordinary films like 'The Trial,' 'The Servants.'" (Beatles laugh) PAUL: (laughing, jokingly) "Just ordinary, you know... Love Walt Disney. You know, 'The Trial' by Walt Disney." Q: "Mmm." PAUL: "It's great." Q: "What sort of music do you like personally?" PAUL: "Just, I like everybody else. Stravinsky, Beethoven, all that." (Beatles laugh) PAUL: (laughs) "No, American groups actually, I listen to." Q: "Female groups..?" PAUL: "But mainly American records generally." Q: "Now then George, what do YOU like to do on your spare time?" GEORGE: "Umm. (pause) Well, I umm, uhh. (to the others) What do I do?" PAUL: "What does he do? I'll tell ya what George does. He goes to the pictures." GEORGE: "I go to the pictures, yeah." PAUL: "He reads Tolstoy." GEORGE: "I read Telstar." PAUL: "Tolstoy." GEORGE: "And umm..." RINGO: "Beethoven's poems." (Beatles laugh) GEORGE: "And play records and play the banjo!" PAUL: "Beethoven's poems." Q: (laughs) "What have you got ambitions in, George? GEORGE: "Umm, to join the Navy." JOHN: (laughs) GEORGE: "I want to join the Navy and be a lieutenant commander on HMS Queen Victoria." Q: (to the group, regarding their upcoming TV appearance in December) "You've never been on 'Juke Box Jury' before?" RINGO: "Oh no. John's been on." JOHN: (yelling, from a distance) "I'VE been ON! I was ON!" Q: "How long?" JOHN: "For twenty minutes!!" (laughter)

DECEMBER 10th 1963 BACKSTAGE, GAUMONT THEATRE, DONCASTER INTERVIEWED BY DIBBS MATHER

Q: "Ringo Starr, it's been suggested that boys coming from the particular area that you've come from, if you'd hadn't found an interest in music, might have found it much more difficult to get out and make a go of life. Would you comment on this?"

RINGO: "I think it's true, you know. I mean, when I was sixteen I used to walk along the road with the rest of the lads, and we'd have all our trade coats on. You know, we'd had a few knocks with other rival gangs, sort of thing. But then I got the drums, and the bloke nextdoor played a guitar. And I got a job..." JOHN: (sings) "'Teddy Booooy!'" RINGO: (laughs) "...and we started playing together. And another bloke from work made a bass out of an old tea chest... you know them days. This was about '58, mind you. And we played together, and then we started playing on dances and things, you know, and we took an interest in it. Then we stopped going, you know, out to sort of hanging around corners every night." Q: "Would you say that the enormous difference which your success in this field has had, has greatly influenced you, Ringo, as far as your philosophy of life or what you want to get out of it?" RINGO: "Oh, yeah." Q: "George Harrison, how different is your life now as a member of the Beatles to what it was, say, even four years ago?" GEORGE: "Everything's completely changed. We don't have a private life anymore. And we, umm, are public property now. Not that we mind." Q: "You don't mind being such public property with no private time at all?" GEORGE: "Well, you get accustomed to it, and after a while you just take it for granted and you just do everything automatically... like signing autographs and (laughs) waving at people." Q: "What about homelife with your own family? Do you ever get any these days?" GEORGE: "Yeah. Occasionally, say once every fortnight, we manage to get home. And, umm, if we're not appearing in our hometown then it's usually OK; they don't expect us to be there, and we... It's, you know, quite quiet." Q: "Does this change the status for the family much?" GEORGE: "Umm, not really. It makes 'em more popular (laughs) and people sort of after a while spot 'my' parents, anyway. You know, it's the same with the others. They'll say, 'There's George's dad,' whereas before they wouldn't know him from Adam. But, you know, they're just still the same as before." Q: "What about the wealth that comes with this kind of success? Has that made a great deal of difference to the way you live... and the way your family live?" GEORGE: "No. It hasn't made... not so far anyway... it hasn't made any difference. Except for holidays and things like that. You know, we can just get the money out of the bank and go wherever we want." Q: "You are one of the reputive deep-thinkers in this group. How do you see it as a peak in your life? What happens to you after this is over?" GEORGE: "Well, umm, I suppose we'll stay doing this sort of stuff for a couple of years. Whether we're... I mean, naturally we wont be able to stay at this level. But, umm, we should have another two years at least, I think." Q: "What happens to George Harrison then?" GEORGE: "I don't know. I'll know by the time that comes along. Probably I'll have a little business or something like that." Q: "You don't want to go on in the profession?"

GEORGE: "Probably, yeah. I'd like to make records, you know, with other artists. I don't mean perform... I mean as a producer." Q: "The technical side." GEORGE: "Mmmm. But I don't know. You can't really tell at this stage." Q: "Paul McCartney, you're one of the original Beatles. Where did the name Beatles originate?" PAUL: "Well Dibbs, uhh, John thought of it first of all. Just as a name; just for a group, you know. We just didn't have any name. Well, oh yeah; we did have a name, but we had about ten of 'em a week, you know... and we didn't like this idea so we had to settle on one particular name. And John came up with the name Beatles one night. And he sort of explained how it was spelled with an 'E-A,' and we said, 'Oh yes, it's a joke.'" Q: "Since then, it's come to represent a large section of the young population-- called the 'Beatle People.' Do you people regard yourself as leaders of this particular group?" PAUL: "No, we're not leaders of any sort of group. The thing is-- people always say, 'Well, you started great trends and things,' but in actual fact all that we've done is gone along with the trends. And if, in going along with it, we sort of encourage other people to go along with a couple of our ideas, you know; all very well. But we haven't tried consciously to start anything like a trend, you know." Q: "Now, you were very much younger when this enormous success started, and you're riding the summit of it now. Do you see it as a peak... a mountain... interfering with the flow of your life?" PAUL: "I don't really know what you mean by 'very much younger.' It was only a year ago." Q: "But you've been working since '58, haven't you?" PAUL: "Well, yeah... not working, you know. I mean, strictly speaking we've been out of work since '58 and we've been doing this as a hobby. 'Cuz we've only been doing it as semi-pros. I left school and went right into it. And we were only sort of picking up a few quid a week, you know. It really wasn't work. I think the main thing is now that, as we've got ourselves a bit of security... we don't really have to worry, at the moment anyway, what we're gonna do after it. So we don't." Q: "None of you are really concerned with going on in this field as a profession?" PAUL: "Yeah, of course we are. I think all of us really, if it suddenly flopped, then we would do something in this profession. But what we mean by Ringo and George's answers, that we don't really want to do... like the conventional answer is, 'I'd like to do ballads and films and straight-acting,' which is so corny. Because half the people who say that can't act or ballad or film. So, umm, we probably wouldn't want to do that unless we thought we could do it. We're having a bash at a film next year, and if we find that any of us can act, say, one out of us may become actors. But we haven't got any great hopes of being actors at the moment." Q: "It's said, John Lennon, that you have the most 'Goon-type' humor of the four Beatles." JOHN: "Who said that?" Q: "I think I read it in one of the newspapers." JOHN: "You know what the newspapers are like." Q: "I don't know. What are they like?" JOHN: "Wrong."

Q: (laughs) "This is going wrong... I want to get a nice 'Personality' bit." JOHN: "I haven't got a nice personality." Q: (laughs) "Is this evidence of Goon-type humor?" JOHN: "No, I don't think I really have Goon-type humor. That's just an expression people use." Q: "What has the success you've enjoyed with the Beatles meant to you personally?" JOHN: "More money than I had before. That's the good bit." Q: "Is it going to make any difference to your life the way you live it after, say, this calms down... the enormous excitement you're generating at the moment?" JOHN: "I don't know, you know. Really." Q: "Do you think your career as a comic might open up to you?" JOHN: "No. (laughs) I don't stand a chance being a comic." Q: "Why not?" JOHN: "I'm not funny enough." Q: "Umm, you were interested in poetry in school." JOHN: "Who said?" Q: "It's printed in a book compiled by the Beatles and entitled, 'The Beatles.'" JOHN: (laughs) "I haven't read that book. We don't normally write those things." Q: "Written any good comic poems lately?" JOHN: "Yes." (interviewer hands John a piece of paper containing one of Lennon's poems. The other Beatles giggle) Q: (laughs) "I just happened to have it here by sheerest coincidence." JOHN: "'Dressed in my brown...' Oh no, I've lost it. Hold on. I can't read it, you see. I've only just written it. (giggles) Well, that's how it starts, actually!" Q: (laughs) JOHN: (reads) "Dressed in my teenold brown sweater I easily micked with crown at Neville Club, a seemy hole. Soon all but soon people accoustic me saying such thing as 'where the charge man?'" JOHN: "I'm turning it over--" (reads) "All too soon I noticed boys and girls sitting in a hubbeled lump; smoking Hernia and taking Odeon, and getting very high. Some were only 4 foot 3 high, but he had Indian Hump which he grew in his sleep.' JOHN: "But things like that just help me keep sane." Q: "Is this business enough to drive you insane?" JOHN: "No, I'm quite normal really. If you read in the Beatle books... it says I'm quite normal."

DECEMBER 7th 1963 TV APPEARANCE, JUKE BOX JURY ODEON CINEMA, LIVERPOOL MODERATED BY DAVID JACOBS Song heard: Kiss Me Quick - Elvis Presley PAUL: "The only thing I don't like about Elvis now is the songs. You know, I love his voice. I used to love all the records like 'Blue Suede Shoes' and 'Heartbreak Hotel,' lovely.

But I don't like the songs now. And Kiss Me Quick, it sounds like Blackpool on a sunny day." (laughter, followed by applause) RINGO: "I didn't like it at all, no." GEORGE: "I must admit I didn't like it very much. Not at all. It's an old track. And I think, seeing as they're releasing old stuff, if they release something like 'My Baby Left Me' it'd be number one. Because Elvis is definitely still popular, it's just the song's a load of rubbish. I mean, Elvis is great. He's fine. But it's not for me." JOHN: "Well, I think it'll be a hit because it's Elvis, like people said. But I don't think it'll be very great. (comically) I like those hats, though, with 'Kiss Me Quick' on it!" (laughter) (Beatles vote by holding up cards. Consensus: HIT) Song heard: Hippy Hippy Shake - The Swinging Bluejeans RINGO: "I liked it. I thought it was good. But it's not as good as the original by Chan Romero. It still swings, and it should sell. I hope it does, anyway." GEORGE: "I think it could possibly be a hit, because I know for a fact that The Hippy Shake's a very popular song around here. We used to do it ourselves." (John laughs comically, the crowd of fans cheer) GEORGE: "I know a lot of the groups around here do this song, and they're expecting somebody to come up with a new version of it. I think it could possibly be a hit. I like the way the Bluejeans did it, but I still prefer Chan Romero's version." JOHN: "Yeah, I think it'll be a hit because they sort of re-made it for the last one, and it's better. Especially without that banjo. I like Bill Harry's version as well. I think it'll be a small hit, at least." (laughter) PAUL: "I think it'll be a hit too, because I don't think it matters much about the Chan Romero record being greater, 'cuz I don't think many people will remember the fact that he did it, and he wrote it as well. You know, I don't think people will remember. They'll just think of it as a new song." (Beatles vote by holding up cards. Consensus: HIT) Song heard: Did You Have A Happy Birthday - Paul Anka GEORGE: "Well, I had a happy birthday, yeah." (laughter) GEORGE: "But I mean, If I'd have heard the record first, I maybe would have cut that out." (laughter) GEORGE: "You know, I definitely don't like it. It's not for me. (jokingly) And I didn't get the flowers either that he sent me." (laughter) JOHN: (jokingly, at the top of his voice) "I LIKE IT !!!" (laughter) JOHN: "I don't like these sort of sob songs, and it sounds as though he's on tremelo, technically. You know, it sounds a bit wobbley. Anyway, I don't like it." PAUL: "Well, I don't like it either, because of that little crack in his voice. He sounds, you know, off his head."

(laughter) PAUL: "Instead of 'Happy Birthday' it's (comically) 'Woo woo woo!'" (laughter) PAUL: "It's a bit off, and I don't like it." RINGO: "Uhh, I didn't like it at all. It's such a big drag, man, the way it sounded, you know." (Beatles vote by holding up cards. Consensus: MISS) Song heard: The Nitty Gritty - Shirley Ellis JOHN: "Uhh yeah. I like it. I thought it was somebody else. I've never heard of Shirley Ellis. I like all those kind of things. I'll buy it. But I believe it won't be a hit." DAVID JACOBS: "Who did you think it was?" JOHN: "At first I thought it was Mary Wells. I liked that." PAUL: "The same as he said. In fact, I will say exactly the same 'cuz I agree with him. I love these kind of records but I don't think this one will be a hit, 'cuz I dunno... It doesn't say anything." RINGO: "You know, we all like this sort of thing. I'd buy it, but I don't think it'll be a hit." GEORGE: "Well, it definitely won't be a hit, in England anyway. It probably will be, or probably is already in the States. But I don't think it'll be a hit. The public haven't got 'round to that sort of stuff yet. When they do, I mean, that would be..." DAVID JACOBS: "So, you mean you think that our teenagers are behind the Americans in their tastes?" GEORGE: "Yeah I mean, just lately they've been going for some more way-out stuff, and Rhythm and Blues, and THIS sort of thing we've always liked. We've liked it for years. And it still hasn't caught on in England." PAUL: "Well it's just that people who buy the records, their taste doesn't match the teenagers generally. Lots of teenagers love this kind of music but don't buy it, because they don't buy records." (Beatles vote by holding up cards. Consensus: MISS) Song heard: I Can't Stop Talking About You - Steve And Eydie PAUL: "Uhh, yeah. I don't think it's a good'n. It's alright. That kind of thing is catchy. It may be catchy, but I just don't think it's good, generally." RINGO: "I like it, you know. I think she carries them, actually." (laughter) GEORGE: "I think it's equally as good as (sings) 'da de-de-de-de de-de da-deee.' It's great, I like it, the sort of relaxed style of both. Yeah, I like it and I think it's a hit." JOHN: "I don't like it as much as their last one. I don't even like it... I usually like everything Goffin and King write, but not this one. It's too sweet, you know. de-da-de, you know. A bit Christmassy, maybe. I don't like it, though. It'll be a vague hit." DAVID JACOBS: "A vague one." JOHN: "A vague hit." (Beatles vote by holding up cards. Consensus: HIT) Song heard: Do You Really Love Me Too - Billy Fury DAVID JACOBS: "Do you really love me too, Ringo?" RINGO: "Not you."

(laughter) RINGO: "I didn't like it, you know. I've never bought one of his records, but he's very popular, so it's just uhh... no." GEORGE: "Not bad, but it was okay, but I wouldn't buy it. And I thought the guitar is just exactly the same as Cliff's. In fact, it's only about a note difference." JOHN: "He just said the bit about the beginning, didn't he, being like Cliff's one. The tune's not bad. It's quite pleasant. It's one of those you gotta hear again... uhh, tomorrow." (laughter) PAUL: "I quite like it, and the same things John said jokingly. The only thing I thought, as well as the guitar bit being like the Cliff Richard bit, the tune is just a little bit like (sings) 'Well I feed the cows and I milks the sheep and I...'" (laughter, followed by applause) PAUL: "But I still think it'll be a hit." (Beatles vote by holding up cards. Consensus: HIT) Song heard: There I've Said It Again - Bobby Vinton GEORGE: "Umm, it's quite nice, but I mean, I don't think the record buying public buys this sort of stuff, I mean, the majority -- which will make it a miss. But you know, it's quite alright. I wouldn't buy it me-self." JOHN: "Uhh, well, I dunno. What is Bobby Vinton doing? He's bringing the oldies back. He might do it, but people always cover them over here. But especially anything old. You know, everybody does it all at once. And he missed it with the last one here. (loudly, comically) I THINK HE'S GONNA MISS IT WITH THIS ONE TOO!!" (laughter) PAUL: "Umm, yeah. I think the thing about bringing back old songs and doing them these days, teenagers don't really want old songs brought back. I'm sure they'd like to have songs that they can call their own instead of bringing back their mum and dad's songs." DAVID JACOBS: "Well now, just a minute. What about Frank Ifield and all that lot?" PAUL: "Yeah, okay." GEORGE: "What about Mule Train?" (laughter) PAUL: "Yeah well, you're probably right. But I'm sure that if you could get songs these days as GOOD as the old ones, only new songs, that would be ten times better." JOHN: "Frank Ifield... that's just practically the same as the old." DAVID JACOBS: "I might tell you that I'm terrified of disagreeing with you chaps, you know, in front of all these people. However, let's see what Ringo says. Ringo." RINGO: "I liked it, you know. It's nice and smooth. And if you're sort of staying in one night, put it on." (laughter) RINGO: "But yeah, right. It won't sell." DAVID JACOBS: "Thank you, Don Juan Starr." (Beatles vote by holding up cards. Consensus: MISS) Song heard: Love Hit Me - The Orchids DAVID JACOBS: "Three Coventry school girls called the Orchids on 'Love Hit Me.' John Lennon." JOHN: "Well you know, it's just a big cop, or pinch. It sounds... If it had come out before

the Crystals and the Ronettes it would've been great. They've even got that, what is it... castanets?" RINGO: "Tambourine." JOHN: (loudly, giggling) Tambourine, is THAT what it's called!!" (laughter) JOHN: "It's quite nice, but it's sort of the British version, you know, which... although the song's original, I think. But it sounds... doesn't sound right." PAUL: "It's okay. It sounds great for an English record, though, you know. Because about a year ago, if someone had brought this out and said 'Listen to this record,' I don't think you would've believed that it was an English one. It's marvelous, the sound things. And I think it's great. I like it." RINGO: "It's good, you know. I wouldn't buy it. It may sell a few but not that many." (Beatles laugh) GEORGE: "I thought it was quite nice. I liked the idea of the British records sort of being on the way to boom-chicka-boom-chicka, all this. I like the American stuff like the Crystals, I mean, even though it is a pinch, you know. I'd rather they pinch the Crystals than carry on doing the stuff they've been doing." (Beatles vote by holding up cards. Consensus: MISS) DAVID JACOBS: "They say that it will be a miss, which in fact is most unfortunate, because we do have sitting in the audience three young ladies called The Orchids. Stand up, young ladies. There they are" (crowd applauds) GEORGE: (jokingly) "Sorry! Didn't mean it!!" JOHN: (switching his card) "I'll change it to hit!" (laughter) JOHN: "I'll buy it! I'll buy two!" DAVID JACOBS: (laughs) JOHN: (comically) "I didn't know you were here!" DAVID JACOBS: (laughing) "John thinks it's a lousy trick but we'll get on to the next record." Song heard: I Think Of You - The Merseybeats (As time was running out in the program, the Beatles did not share their comments on this song, but simply held a quick vote. Consensus: HIT) DAVID JACOBS: "This is where I say that unfortunately we have to take our leave of you. So, on behalf of the Jury, that's John Lennon, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, and George Harrison. Don't forget to join the Beatles later at 8:10 on BBC television tonight. And join us at the usual time next week for another session of Juke Box Jury. Goodnight."