Brad P.

Presents

The Forbidden Truth Part 2

Just Another Casualty of the Information Age
Inside this new re ort!

=>Find out the exact numbers on what methods and forums are getting students laid. =>Timeless Success Formulas that can transform your results with women forever. => Radically change the path of your development with 1 simple ad ustment.

Table of Contents
"e#tion $! %eet Brad P. &................................................................... ' &................................................ ) &..................................... $$ &...................................... $)

"e#tion 2! Ba#(ground Information

"e#tion *! The +ay ,e ort +eader Boards "e#tion -! Confusing .ursel/es to 0eath

"e#tion '! Case "tudy1 2o2o,omeo'3- &...................................... 2$ "e#tion 3! The Illness and the Cure &............................................... 23 "e#tion 4! .n the Brin( of 2reatness &.............................................. *5 "e#tion 6! +et %e 2i/e It to 7ou "traight &....................................... *6

Introduction, by Jake P.
When I first met Brad P., it was at his workshop in Las Vegas in 2008. I was scared to death at the time, but Brad put m mind at ease and then proceeded to transform m game and m entire !ife into something out of a dream. "ince then, we#$e become good friends, and I#$e seen first hand that not on! does Brad ha$e the greatest game I#$e e$er seen, but he a!so cares more about he!ping students than an thing e!se in the wor!d. % few weeks ago, Brad emai!ed me the statistics in this report , and he said that he was worried about putting this information out into the pub!ic. When &he 'orbidden &ruth Part ( came out, it caused a tida! wa$e of emotion. )n the one hand, man peop!e were happ that the fina!! had it spe!!ed out to them wh the weren#t impro$ing at pickup. )n the other hand, a !ot of peop!e in the business got hurt fee!ings and there were a few !ost friendships. "ure! this was going to happen again, but this time e$en worse. I had a heart to heart ta!k with Brad, and we decided that this information shou!d be re!eased an wa , and !et the chips fa!! where the ma . *ead on and in these pages ou wi!! find out +Wh Brad#s ,0-,0 students are getting !aid .+(0 times more than students on free pub!ic forums. +/ow the seduction communit has fostered a cu!ture of de!usion and confusion on man internet forums. +/ow Brad and the 01" coaches in$ented a s stem for !earning pickup that rea!! works, and isn#t 2ust a bunch of h pe and marketing. Whi!e man other gurus and coaches are ab!e to pickup women themse!$es, on! Brad P. and 3ei! "trauss ha$e succeeded in getting a !arge percentage of students !aid purely by studying over the internet. + Wh Brad is now sharing the nuts and bo!ts of this s stem with e$er one e!se, and hoping that the entire seduction wor!d wi!! rip off our s stem and use it on their forum. +%!though the mean we!!, the $arious attempts at teaching seduction $ia forums ha$e pro$ed !arge! unsuccessfu!. *ead on and ou wi!! see the 45%6& 307B4*". 8ou wi!! see actua! proof that un+coached pickup forums are fai!ing miserab! when it comes to getting peop!e !aid. +/ow the cu!ture of Pickup 'orums cou!d be stopping ou from succeeding with women, and what ou can do to change this. +/ow un+coached pickup forums are drawing ou into a !and of make be!ie$e. &he !onger ou read them, the more de!usiona! and confused ou wi!! become.

+Wh Brad is tru! the guru ou shou!d put our trust in. /is curricu!um is getting a higher percentage of students !aid than workshops of other companies. &hat#s something ou shou!d pa attention to. It#s not h pe, it#s rea! numbers and rea! resu!ts. +Wh Brad has been ca!!ed 9( P0% in the wor!d o$er and o$er again. %fter (0 ears of peop!e !earning pickup on the Internet, Brad has c!ear! emerged as the most effecti$e teacher in the histor of the seduction communit . %!though Brad sta s awa from an kind of pub!icit , for ears he has been known as the :"ecret Weapon; of the pickup communit , and !i$es up to that reputation to this da . %fter knowing Brad for , ears now, I can te!! ou he#s a prett humb!e gu . 0nti! he springs into action picking up hotties and teaching students, ou#d ne$er suspect he was the best in the wor!d. But there are things in his past that gi$e him a distinct ad$antage o$er an one e!se teaching toda . +Brad has been stud ing ps cho!og and phi!osoph for c!ose to 2 decades now, and ho!ds degrees in both sub2ects. /e draws on a massi$e database of e<perimenta! resu!ts and ps cho!ogica! theories when teaching peop!e +/e was a basketba!! coach for , ears, after p!a ing on a championship winning 36%% co!!ege basketba!! team under an e!ite group of coaches, one of whom went on to coach in the 3B%. If ou#$e ne$er been around a group of :winners; and !earned the winning menta!it , Brad wi!! teach it to ou. +Brad spent 2 ears working with the menta!! i!!. /e taught basic !ife ski!!s to adu!ts with )bsessi$e 6ompu!si$e 1isorder, "chi=ophrenia, and a $ariet of !earning disabi!ities. &his kind of e<perience wi!! teach ou to get through to an one, no matter what their !e$e! of comprehension. +Brad spent > ears as a socia! worker. /e worked in a outh center running substance abuse pre$ention programs for at+risk urban teens in ?ueens, 3ew 8ork 6it . &his taught him to dea! with high! resistant indi$idua!s from a wide range of backgrounds. I hope ou en2o reading this report. 4$en if ou end up hating this report, I hope it makes a huge impact on ou, and resu!ts in ou taking action and chasing the dreams ou ha$e had for ears. If ou#$e had a dream of massi$e success with women, but ne$er had the guts to start chasing that dream with e$er thing ou#$e got, this one is for ou. &his wi!! be the turning point. /ope to see ou soon,

-Jake P.
"uper$isor and /ead 6oach Pickup 7ansion /o!! wood, 6%

The Forbidden Truth Part 2

Just Another Casualty of the Information Age

Section 1: Meet Brad P.

I#m Brad P. and I want ou to succeed with women. &he purpose of this report is to he!p ou succeed and pre$ent ou from wasting our time. I am sick and tired of gu s spending thousands of do!!ars and thousands of hours on Pickup and not getting an where. P!ease read this report carefu!! and tr to fo!!ow the instructions as c!ose! as ou can. 7 goa!, m mission, and m !ife#s work is to get ou resu!ts. I hope ou wi!! use this information as a springboard to get success be ond our wi!dest dreams. 'or the sake of those who ha$e ne$er heard of me before, I wi!! re+print some background information about me from the origina! 'orbidden &ruth report. If ou#$e a!read read this report, p!ease skip to section 2.

About Me
I am a dating e<pert with a degree in ps cho!og and phi!osoph . Before becoming a dating coach, I had se$era! careers in @he!ping professions@ where I !earned how to teach peop!e who are in difficu!t situations or are ha$ing troub!e !earning. 6onsider m background before ou consider m theories on !earning. I was a basketba!! coach for , ears, after p!a ing on a championship winning 36%% co!!ege basketba!! team under an e!ite group of coaches, one of whom went on to coach in the 3B%. &his insti!!ed in me the abi!it to push peop!e, to get the most out of them, and how to impart a @winning menta!it @ to a!! the students I encounter. I spent 2 ears working with the menta!! i!!. I taught basic !ife ski!!s to adu!ts with )bsessi$e 6ompu!si$e 1isorder, "chi=ophrenia, and a $ariet of !earning disabi!ities. &his is where I !earned how to communicate ideas and ski!!s in a wa that is ca!ibrated and customi=ed for the !istener#s !e$e! of comprehension. I spent > ears as a socia! worker. I worked in a outh center running substance abuse pre$ention programs for at+risk urban teens in ?ueens, 3ew 8ork 6it . &his taught me to dea! with resistant popu!ations and mu!ticu!tura! settings. I spent the first 2A ears of m !ife as a nerd who had no abi!it to dea! with women or attract women. I ha$e a rea! understanding of the deep !one!iness and fearfu!ness that men go through when the fai! with women. I spent m first 8 months of !earning co!d approaching women e$er sing!e da . &hat#s . da s a week. I continued approaching and dating !ots of women for the ne<t > ears and I sti!! am acti$e to this da . 4$er thing I teach comes from true !ife e<perience. &here is no specu!ation, no guessing. It#s a!! things I#$e done m se!f. I spent 2 ears !earning from natura!s. I#$e !earned from one natura! who seduces women in

ten minutes, another who has out+gamed &omm Lee, and a third who approaches 20B women e$er da of his !ife. I#$e spent the !ast > ears doing a mi<ture of co!d approach pickup and !ong term open re!ationships, and I ha$e an intimate know!edge of what it takes to get a woman, and what it takes to keep a woman. %n thing ou#$e e$er wanted to do, chances are I#$e done it and I can teach it. "ince 200C, I#$e been running seminars and in+fie!d workshops. I he!ped men from e$er wa!k of !ife, from the most socia!! inept to the high! accomp!ished professiona!. 7 students ha$e had great success. % few high points inc!udeD > out of A students scoring from same da co!d approaches in m 2008 6hicago Workshop /e!ping a ,2 ear o!d $irgin !ose his $irginit despite his se$ere !earning disabi!ities. /e!ping a number of o!der men Esome in their C0sF score on the same da with women ha!f their age.

My Seduction o!!unity "#perience

When I began teaching in 7arch of 200C, the students I had were brand new the idea of stud ing dating and seduction and we did a !ot of rudimentar work on their identit and ski!! set. %fter !earning the simp!e fundamenta!s I was teaching, m first group of students had such a high success rate that m c!ass Guick! grew in popu!arit and attendance, and b 200A, men were contacting me from a!! o$er the wor!d to !earn from me. 1uring that first ear, m success seemed to me to be an iso!ated phenomenon, but there was a wor!dwide mo$ement going on that I wasn#t aware of, the "eduction 6ommunit . I remember the first time I heard about the seduction communit . I was teaching a seminar in 200C, and I asked if there were an Guestions. % oung I& consu!tant raised his hand and said @I#m ha$ing a !itt!e troub!e with %,.@ I had no idea what he was ta!king about, and I fe!t a !itt!e si!! being stumped at m own seminar. I to!d him @I#!! ha$e to go home and !ook that one up.@ I spoke to this student and his friend after c!ass, and I was f!oored b the amount of information the were ab!e to repeat to me. &he had about ten times more information than me. %t the time, I thought the had !arge amounts of know!edge, but I found out !ater the didn#t. &he on! had information. &here#s a big difference between ha$ing know!edge and ha$ing information. When ou ha$e @information,@ ou can te!! it to other peop!e, ou can pass a mu!tip!e choice Gui=, ou might e$en be ab!e to impress a few peop!e b con$incing them that ou ha$e know!edge. &ru! ha$ing @know!edge@ is when ou are ab!e to understand the re!ationships between different t pes of information. 8ou#!! know when certain princip!es app! , and when the don#t. It#s $er different. /a$ing @know!edge@ a!!ows ou to bui!d ski!! and get resu!ts. /a$ing information is 2ust a prereGuisite to obtaining know!edge. "o how did I find out that these gu s on! had informationH &he signed up for one of m in+fie!d trainings, and I went out to a few bars with them to meet women. Ieep in mind these gu s seemed to know ten times more than me. I had on! been teaching for A months. I thought the were gonna mop the f!oor with me and demand a

refund. 1uring the course of the night, I took fi$e phone numbers and brought home a hot bur!esGue dancer. I had a great night. 7 know+it+a!! students, on the other hand, had a rough time. I ga$e them m standard !essons and did a few approaches for them to watch. &hen I asked them to approach a pair of women at the bar so I cou!d watch and critiGue them. &he both !ooked at me with a panicked e<pression on their face. @Brad, I think we#re gonna 2ust obser$e tonight,@ the said. I tried a few more times to get them to approach, but the were 2ust too scared. &he didn#t do one sing!e approach. %s a new teacher, this was rea!! confusing to me. /ow was it that these gu s knew so much about seduction, but were unab!e to do e$en one sing!e approach, e$en with the he!p of a coachH

$hey %ere keyboard &ockeys. $hat's ho%.

%s I continued meeting more and more communit gu s, I wou!d find out that man of them were ke board 2ocke s. &he ha$e the information. &he can spit it back to ou, the can t pe it out on a computer screen, but the aren#t ab!e to actua!! use %38 of the information the ha$e. It#s a condition that#s widespread and rampant. In 200A, I was a speaker at the @6!iff#s List@ 6on$ention, which was the !argest gathering of seduction students in 3orth %merica that ear. %fter I did that, the communit gu s s!ow! took o$er m trainings and seminars unti! b 200., there were no @regu!ar gu s@ !eft, on! communit gu s. I continued m teaching, and I had man simi!ar e<periences that a!! !ead to the same few conc!usions. (. &here#s no shortage of information, the students a!read ha$e tons of info. 2. %bout 80J of the information out there in the seduction communit is of $er high Gua!it . "ome of the techniGues are so inno$ati$e and ps cho!ogica!! sound that it must ha$e taken a genius to come up with them. ,. &here#s a huge disconnect in the Gua!it of the information and the abi!it of the students to uti!i=e the information. >. 7ost of this disconnect stems from inefficient teaching techniGues, fearfu!ness, confusion, poor information timing, and the occasiona! bit of bad information. If I cou!d on! get these gu s to use the information the a!read had, the #d be getting great resu!ts.

Section (: Background In)or!ation

Background
&he origina! :'orbidden &ruth; report was re!eased in 2008. It was an in$estigation into the teaching methods used in the Pickup 6ommunit and inc!uded a number of suggestions to impro$e the o$era!! success of the students and the mo$ement o$era!!. If ou ha$en#t a!read read :&he 'orbidden &ruth,; ou might want to down!oad it here. &his report, :&he 'orbidden &ruth, Part 2; wi!! in$estigate the progress made in the Pickup wor!d since 2008, and wi!! inc!ude a comparati$e ana! sis of the $arious forums and s stems peop!e are using to become proficient in seduction. %!! of the research for this artic!e was done b me, a!ong with m , research assistants E*a2in, 3ick W, and *ockstarrF. If ou are interested in seeing the massi$e amount of raw data behind this stud , ou can $iew it ourse!f here. %!though it was a time consuming process to compi!e this data, it#s something an one cou!d ha$e done. If ou wou!d !ike to $erif the accurac of the data, ou are we!come to $isit the same forums I $isited and see for ourse!f. $his in)or!ation is publicly available to anyone %ith internet access. All %e did %as co!pile it all into one place. $he in)or!ation in this study is 1**+ veri)iable. 'urthermore, if an one reading finds an statistica! mistakes in the data, 2ust emai! me, and I wi!! correct the mistakes and re+distribute this report.

$he goals o) this study:

(+ &o fina!! answer the GuestionD ,hich pickup syste! is getting the highest percentage o) students laid2+ &o re$isit some of the theories from the origina! :'orbidden &ruth; report, and e$a!uate their effects on student success from 2008 to 20((. ,+ &o share the most effecti$e ideas from :&he 'orbidden &ruth; and &he ,0-,0 6!ub with the rest of the communit , and make some recommendations on a s stem of best practices for on!ine P0% forums. >+ &o he!p the student na$igate the internet P0% scene with focus and discip!ine. C+ &o impro$e the o$era!! effecti$eness of pickup methods. A+ &o determine which forum can he!p 8)0 the most. .+ &o determine which forums are most !ike! to be a waste of our time.

It#s not eas to figure out the answer to these Guestions. If ou know me and ou#$e read what I wrote in Part (, ou#!! know I#m a gu who !ikes science and nu!bers. I want to see statistica! e$idence before I be!ie$e something. I want to see data, and I want that data to be as re!iab!e as possib!e. We !i$e in a wor!d permeated b persuasi$e marketing and s!opp science. 4$er one who has a seduction s stem or a seduction forum is a!wa s going to want to te!! ou that their method is the best. )ne thing I can te!! ou for sure is that nu!bers don't lie. Before we go on to the numbers, I shou!d disc!ose the fact that I persona!! !ike the peop!e who created man of these forums. I#m a fan of gu s tr ing to he!p each other. I#m a supporter of the peop!e who dedicate their time to bui!ding and maintaining these forums. "ome of the peop!e who run these forums are friends of mine. I#$e done m best not to !et m friendships interfere with this report. 0!timate! , this stud is not about m opinion on an of the forums or the peop!e that run them, it#s about the rea! numbers. It#s about the rea! resu!ts that the students are getting Eor not gettingF. If we#re e$er going to mo$e forward, we ha$e to know the rea! facts about what#s going on, and not !et our friendships and business affi!iations pre$ent us from acknow!edging what#s

happening.

Section .: $he /ay 0eport /eader Boards

What ou are about to read is the product of an (( month, top+secret research pro2ect. Before this pro2ect, no one has e$er attempted to do an in$estigation of this sca!e into the success rate of the "eduction 6ommunit . I knew it wou!d be risk to do a report of this sca!e. /a!f of m friends in the industr ma get $er angr at me when the see that I ha$e spied on their forum and re!eased the resu!ts. B printing this report, I risk industr +wide b!ack!isting and massi$e internet smear campaigns....but it#s worth the risk. It#s worth the (( months of research, and the risk of being b!ack!isted for one reason. &he truth must be known. &hat#s what this report is u!timate! about. &he students deser$e to know if an one is getting !aid in this mo$ement, how much, and what s stems are creating success. %s it turns out, there are a !ot of peop!e wasting their time in the seduction communit , and it#s not increasing their success one bit....but we#!! get into that !ater. )n the bright side, there are a few hundred gu s who are increasing their chances of success in a big wa ....more about that !ater. Before we get into the resu!ts, I want to gi$e ou a short e<p!anation of what Guestion was being in$estigated, and how this research was conducted. &he Guestion is simp!eD

,hich pickup syste! is getting the highest percentage o) students laid&his is the Guestion that has been on peop!e#s minds for ears. If students on! knew what worked best, the cou!d stop f!oating from one s stem to another, and 2ust stick with what works. But the Guestion has been c!ouded b !a ers of confusion and hearsa . )f course, e$er teacher wou!d !ike to be!ie$e he has the best s stem. %nd e$er marketing gu who gets hired thinks of ingenious wa s of putting this message out there. 4$en s stems who ha$e no :!eader; or :guru; make c!aims of being the best.

It#s hard to know who to be!ie$e. I am an e<treme! skeptica! person, and I usua!! don#t be!ie$e an one. )ne thing I do be!ie$e is numbers. I be!ie$e students# resu!ts can be studied and Guantified. &hat is what I did during the course of this research pro2ect. B now ou#re probab! d ing to know which s stem came out on top of this stud , but p!ease be patient and read on. It#s important to understand how we arri$ed at these numbers.

Method o) Study
&he method of the stud was $er simp!e. 'irst we determined how man :acti$e users; were on each seduction forum. &he term :acti$e users; is defined as an forum member who posted C or more times between Kan (st, 20(0 and Kune ,0th, 20(0. &hen we determined how man !a reports were on that forum. 'or !a reports, we fo!!owed traditiona! communit doctrineD a BK or betterL !a report. 7ost forums ha$e these reports marked as :L*; so it#s prett eas to spot them. In some cases, we inc!uded :'*; reports where the poster got !aid, e$en if he did not mark the report :L*.; If a forum member had mu!tip!e L*s, we counted him as ( acti$e poster getting !aid. &hen we used the fo!!owing formu!a to determine what percentage of acti$e members are getting !aidD

!e!bers getting laid

1 total active !e!bers2 +

'or e<amp!e, if a forum had (00 acti$e posters, and (0 gu s with at !east ( L*, that forum wou!d be at a (0J success rate. /i!itations o) this study &here are some of things that can#t be accounted for, !ike peop!e who get !aid but don#t post, or peop!e who write fake L*s 2ust to impress the other members. "o it#s not possib!e to figure out e$er !itt!e nuance of what#s going on. /owe$er, I be!ie$e this stud gi$es us the most accurate picture possib!e. We can#t put a sp camera into e$er bedroom, c!ub bathroom, and back seat in the wor!d. "o we wi!! ne$er know with (00J certaint who#s getting !aid and who is not. But this stud gi$es us a prett good idea, because it was done in secrec . 7en ha$e a tendenc to !ie about how much the are getting !aid if the know the are being obser$ed. 3one of the data in this stud came from peop!e who thought the were being obser$ed. &he were 2ust !ogging the information in their :natura! habitat.;

What it comes down to, is that this is the most re!iab!e set of data in e<istence at the present time. 7a be there wi!! be better studies some da . %s for now, this is the best stud ou can get. %nd now, the moment ou ha$e a!! been waiting for....the La *eport Leader Boards.

3ighest Percentage o) Active Me!bers 4etting /aid

If ou want the best s stem out there, go with the one that has a pro$en track record of success. /ere is the Leader Board on which forum and s stem gets the highest J of students !aid.

1. $he .*5.* lub 6BradP.co!7 18.9. + (. /ove Syste!s /ounge 6/ove Syste!s %orkshop students only7 18.:*+ .. Style/i)e Acade!y 6;eil Strauss aka Style, paid private )oru!7 1:.(9+ :. 0eal Social <yna!ics ..=>+ ?. @enusian Arts 6Mystery )ro! @31's A$he Pickup ArtistB7 (.=.+ 8. Style/i)e 6;eil Strauss, )ree public )oru!7 (.>.+ >. CastSeduction.co! 6/earn$heSkills7 (.?8+ =. PickDupDArtistDCoru! 6PEA $raining7 (.:9+ 9. $he Attraction Coru!s 6/ove Syste!s7 1.?>+ 1*. PEA)oru!s.co! 1.(?+
If ou want to know more about these forums or ou want to see the actua! data, inc!uding 0*Ls of e$er !a report, ou can $iew the data here. It#s a!! !aid out for ou on our webpage. 8ou can $iew the forum for e$er ur! in our report. If ou are skeptica! of these numbers, I encourage ou to $iew raw data, which inc!udes e$er post b e$er acti$e member. 0e!e!ber, every part o) this report is backed up by real data that is publicly available to anyone %ho %ants to take the ti!e to go through it. /ere are some more !eader boards ou might find interesting.

$otal Active Me!bers

'or some fo!ks, bigger is better. )ther gu s wou!d rather be on a sma!!er more intimate forum where ou can get to know peop!e. If ou#re curious about how man acti$e members are on a forum, read on and this Leader Board wi!! te!! ou.

'orum 3ame - "uccess *ate - Active Me!bers

'orum 3ame 6ompan "uccess *ate F o) Me!bers

(. 'ast"eduction.com ELearn&he"ki!!sF 2.CAJ .,*** Active Me!bers 6esti!ated by Cor!handle7G 2. &he %ttraction 'orums ELo$e " stemsF (.C.J (*.. Active Me!bers ,. Pick+up+%rtist+'orum EP0% &rainingF 2.>MJ 198? Active Me!bers >. *ea! "ocia! 1 namics ,.8.J 1(8> Active Me!bers C. "t !eLife E3ei! "trauss, free forumF 2..,J 1*9= Active Me!bers A. Venusian %rts E7 ster from V/(#s :&he Pickup %rtist;F 2.8,J :(: Active Me!bers .. &he ,0-,0 6!ub EBradP.comF (A.M, J 1=9 active !e!bers 8. "t !eLife %cadem E3ei! "trauss aka "t !eF (>.2MJ 18= Active Me!bers M. Pua'orums.com (.2CJ 18* Active Me!bers (0. Lo$e " stems Lounge ELo$e " stems workshop students on! F (A.>0J 8> Active Me!bers N %!! figured ha$e been $erified b data e<amination e<cept 'ast"eduction.com &heir forum is set up in a wa that makes it impossib!e to down!oad and ana! =e A months worth of posts. I ha$e reason to be!ie$e 'ormhand!e#s estimate to be $er c!ose to accurate.

&here are other forums on the internet, but we on! studied forums with C0B acti$e members.

$otal /ay 0eports

Let#s gi$e credit where credit is due. &hese are the forums that ha$e gotten the most peop!e !aid.

'orum 3ame - "uccess *ate - &ota! L*s

(. 'ast"eduction.com ELearn&he"ki!!sF 2.CAJ 91 !e!bers got laid 2. *ea! "ocia! 1 namics ,.8.J == !e!bers got laid ,. &he ,0-,0 6!ub EBradP.comF (A.M, J 8. !e!bers got laid >. Pick+up+%rtist+'orum EP0% &rainingF 2.>MJ ?. !e!bers got laid C. &he %ttraction 'orums ELo$e " stemsF (.C.J :? !e!bers got laid A. "t !eLife E3ei! "trauss, free forumF 2..,J .9 !e!bers got laid .. "t !eLife %cadem E3ei! "trauss aka "t !eF (>.2MJ .* !e!bers got laid 8. Lo$e " stems Lounge ELo$e " stems workshop studentsF (A.>0J (( !e!bers got laid M. Venusian %rts E7 ster from V/(#s :&he Pickup %rtist;F 2.8,J 1: !e!bers got laid (0. Pua'orums.com (.2CJ ( !e!bers got laid

ost o) Coru!
"ome forums are free, others are not. If ou#re !ooking to get the most bang for our buck, take a c!ose !ook at this Leader Board. If ou !ook c!ose! , ou#!! notice the percentages of peop!e getting !aid are about A times higher on paid forums. 'ree forums don#t get past a 2J or ,J success rate. It#s et another case of :you get %hat you pay )or .; &he free forums can#t get an where near the success rate of the paid forums. (. &he ,0-,0 6!ub EBradP.comF (A.M, J H8> per !onth 2. Lo$e " stems Lounge ELo$e " stems workshop studentsF (A.>0J H(99> )or /i)eti!e Me!bership ,. "t !eLife %cadem E3ei! "trauss aka "t !eF (>.2MJ H=?.?* per !onth and H?* initiation >. *ea! "ocia! 1 namics ,.8.J Cree C. Venusian %rts E7 ster from V/(#s :&he Pickup %rtist;F2.8,J Cree A. "t !eLife E3ei! "trauss, free forumF 2..,J Cree .. 'ast"eduction.com ELearn&he"ki!!sF 2.CAJ Cree 8. Pick+up+%rtist+'orum EP0% &rainingF 2.>MJ Cree M. &he %ttraction 'orums ELo$e " stemsF (.C.J Cree (0. Pua'orums.com (.2CJ Cree

Posts by the Iriginal @isionary

)ne thing that can make the on!ine forum e<perience rea!! coo! is ta!king to the founder who in$ented the s stem ou are using. Ouru participation shows that someone cares about the forum and is steering the ship. But whoa...ho!d on a second thereP 3ot a!! the gurus post on their own forums. *ead this Leader Board to find out who does.

'orum 3ame - "uccess *ate - Posts by Counder

(. 'ast"eduction.com ELearn&he"ki!!sF 2.CAJ =(:? by Cor!handle 2. *ea! "ocia! 1 namics ,.8.J .9.> by $yler ,. &he ,0-,0 6!ub EBradP.comF (A.M, J 181? posts by Brad P. >. &he %ttraction 'orums ELo$e " stemsF (.C.J 9(? posts by Savoy. 1* posts by MysteryG >. Pua'orums.com (.2CJ 8?9 by Bill Preston C. "t !eLife E3ei! "trauss, free forumF 2..,J .=* posts by Style A. "t !eLife %cadem E3ei! "trauss aka "t !eF (>.2MJ 1(( posts by Style .. Pick+up+%rtist+'orum EP0% &rainingF 2.>MJ 8: by 4a!bler 8. Lo$e " stems Lounge ELo$e " stems workshop studentsF (A.>0J 1* posts by Savoy M. Venusian %rts E7 ster from V/(#s :&he Pickup %rtist;F 2.8,J ? posts by Mystery

N&he %ttraction 'orums is a forum that was origina!! started b 7 ster 7ethod 6orp., a compan owned b both 7 ster and "a$o . Both are origina! $isionaries of this forum.

Section :: on)using Iurselves to <eath

Wh is this chapter ca!!ed :6onfusing )urse!$es to 1eath;H We!! it#s simp!e. Picking up women and fucking them is a matter of !ife and death. If ou can#t figure out how to do it, ou wi!! ha$e no offspring and ou wi!! die a!one. Period. )$er the past ten ears, a se!f he!p mo$ement ca!!ed :the seduction communit ; has appeared on the p!anet earth, and it is gi$ing hope to men who wou!d ha$e had !itt!e hope otherwise. &he goa!s of this mo$ement are grandiose. %s coaches, we hope to bring persona! growth, se<, !o$e, and happiness to men who are strugg!ing with a!! of the abo$e. &his is a goa! that can be accomp!ished. I ha$e seen men who ha$e ne$er e$en ta!ked to a woman go from a ner$ous stuttering mess to the kind of gu who gets !aid regu!ar! . It can take p!ace in a matter of months. % transformation !ike this is tru! ama=ing to beho!d. /owe$er, this se!f he!p mo$ement is current! in 2eopard of disappearing due to !ack of resu!ts. If it does disappear, so do the hopes and dreams of the hundreds of thousands of men who ha$e found themse!$es unab!e to attract a mate. If the students don#t get !aid, the mo$ement wi!! e$entua!! cease to e<ist. It#s that simp!e. 8ou ma be wondering wh our mo$ement is in 2eopard . &o put it simp! , it is on the brink of co!!apsing under it#s own weight. )$er the !ast ten ears, we ha$e witnessed an a$a!anche of information, some of which is high! effecti$e when app!ied in the rea! wor!d. /owe$er, without a structure in p!ace to he!p peop!e uti!i=e this information, men are ending up worse than the were before. 7en are going through a strange process of information addiction which is pre$enting them from getting success e$en before the can ta!k to a sing!e woman. Whi!e there are a few bright spots in the seduction communit where peop!e are actua!! succeeding, the ma2orit of the men who are stud ing pickup on the internet are mo$ing backwards. &he are not getting !aid. &he are not growing as peop!e. &he are not gaining an socia! ski!!s. %!! the are doing is amassing a $au!t of use!ess information and tri$ia. &he wi!! ne$er trans!ate this information into resu!ts. It wi!! on! make them more confused. $hey are on)using $he!selves $o <eath.

I ha$e concrete scientific proof that about MCJ of the men reading pickup forums are not getting !aid. %!! the are doing is sitting around and specu!ating on the internet and wasting their time. P!ease, 2udge for ourse!f.

/ere#s some cumu!ati$e statsD

$I$A/ A $I@" PIS$"0S I; A// CI0EMS: 1*,.>1 $I$A/ P"IP/" 4"$$I;4 /AI< I; A// CI0EMS: ::> $I$A/ SE "SS 0A$": :..+

%gain, read the data if ou are skeptica!. >.,J is prett bad. When I first went on the internet and saw a!! these forums, I figured the success rate wou!d be wa higher than that. &he techniGues the are teaching seem to be effecti$e and we!! thought out if ou 2ust go out and do it. I went and tried some of the techniGues out m se!f, and I found that the resu!ts were tru! ama=ing. &his materia! is genius !e$e! stuffP If ou go out and use it a!! the time, ou wi!! get resu!ts for certain. &herein !ies the prob!em. 7ost of the gu s on the forums ha$en#t gone out and done an thing. In the ne<t few sections, I wi!! propose m theor on wh no one is using what the are reading, wh MCJ of the students are not getting !aid, and what can be done to change this. 4$er thing I am proposing has a!read been tested and I can pro$e that it works better than what is current! being done.

Section ?: ase Study: 4o4o0o!eo?8:

Let#s consider the case of OoOo*omeoCA. /e#s a new member of the Pickup 6ommunit . Let#s fo!!ow him through his path and see where things are going right and where things are going wrong. *omeo#s path is t pica!, and the ma2orit of Pickup students go through the same issues. *omeo hears about the Pickup 6ommunit through a friend and decides to !ook into it. /e#s ,2 ears o!d and has ne$er had much success with women. *omeo is a ta!ented I& professiona!, with tremendous ana! tica! ski!!s. %s he begins reading news!etters and free forums, he sees that he wi!! fina!! be ab!e to use his ana! tica! ta!ents to get himse!f some !adies. What an e<citing prospectP It#s a!! so e<citing at first. &he coaches and gurus are getting tremendous resu!ts. *omeo hopes one da he can get simi!ar resu!ts and !i$e a !ife fi!!ed with great women. 7a be he cou!d e$en become a coach some da . 3ow that wou!d be somethingP %fter a few weeks, *omeo has spent about ,0 hours reading and stud ing. /e starts thinking ma be it might be a good idea to ta!k to some gir!s and tr this stuff out. /e goes out into the park on his !unch break with an opener read to go. But the first gir! he sees seems too snobb . &he ne<t one is too chubb . &he third gir! is too hot and it#s scar to e$en think about ta!king to her. *omeo fina!! works up the ner$e to ta!k to a gir! on a park bench, but there#s an o!d man sitting ne<t to her and *omeo is afraid of what he might sa . "o back to work he goes. Lunch hour is o$er. *omeo spends (0 more hours reading up on :approach an<iet ; and bu s a few 1V1 sets, hoping this wi!! spring him into action. /e spends a few weeks watching the 1V1s and figuring out a new game p!an. *omeo decides to go out to a bar and tr the openers from the 1V1 set. When he arri$es, he fee!s that e$er one is watching him and wondering wh he is there a!one. *omeo tries to get his thoughts organi=ed, but there#s 2ust too man ideas in his head. /e#s a!read p!anned an opener, a few attraction routines, and how to take the gir! home, but sudden! a!! the things he#s studied 2ust start fee!ing unnatura!. /e thinks back on a news!etter where one of the coaches was sa ing to ne$er used rehearsed scripts, 2ust be natura!. *omeo decides to ha$e a coup!e of drinks and co!!ect his thoughts. &hen he wi!! ab!e to natura!! attract women, he thinks. /e ends up drinking more than he intended to and taking a cab home. *omeo fe!t that he was 2ust too tips to do an approaches.

*omeo decides to stud up on :natura! game; so he won#t ha$e that weird fee!ing again. /e attends a seminar on natura! game and is impressed with the charisma of the speaker. It must ha$e been those damn routines that were making him fee! so weird. *omeo begins posting on the forum he has been reading. B now > months ha$e gone b , and he#s done enough reading and stud ing to sound $er know!edgeab!e. &he gu s on the forum are comp!imenting *omeo#s ad$ice posts. With the new confidence he has gained from these comp!iments, *omeo makes a 2nd attempt at !unch time gaming in the park. /e#s p!anning to sa hi to some gir!s and then sa whate$er comes natura!! . %s he#s wa!king, he Guiet! sa s hi to a passing woman. "he wa!ks right b him without e$en !ooking at him. &his re2ection hits *omeo !ike a kick in the nuts. /e fee!s a!! his confidence Guick! disappearing. /e has a knot in his stomach and a sinking fee!ing in his chest. 7a be it#s time to sit down for a second. *omeo spends the rest of his !unch break tr ing to remember a!! the natura! techniGues he studied, but when ou#re fee!ing so ner$ous and downtrodden, it#s hard to remember an thing. /e heads back to work and Guick! 2umps back on to his P0% forum for a Guick ego boost. )ne of the gu s on the forum reads *omeo#s post and suggests he do some inner game work. &hat must be the prob!em. *omeo Guick! down!oads an intense inner game seminar and gets to work fi!!ing out the workbook. /e imp!ements the %bundance 7enta!it , does some Visua!i=ation 4<ercises, and signs up for oga c!asses and sa!sa dancing. 'or the ne<t , months, *omeo continues these acti$ities. /e#s now been in the game for (( months. /e knows e$er thing there is to know about routines, canned openers, natura! game, inner game, and he#s de$e!oped his abi!it to sa!sa dance and increased his f!e<ibi!it b doing oga. *omeo starts attending meetings at a "eduction Lair. /e goes out to dinner with some of the !air gu s. &he debate the pros and cons of )!d "koo! 7 ster 7ethod and "peed "eduction. &he !air gu s te!! him secrets about the rea! !ife of 1a$id 1e%nge!o. *omeo finds out 1a$id 1#s rea! name. Wow, what an informati$e and e<citing nightP &he !air gu s ha$e a !ot of respect for *omeo. &he want to hear a!! about oga and sa!sa dancing. *omeo makes some great friends and re$e!s in the fee!ing that he fina!! has a p!ace where he be!ongs. 'or the ne<t , months, he attends e$er !air meeting. 3ow (> months ha$e passed and *omeo has not gotten !aid et. 1: !onths %ith no results. $his is a disaster.

What#s happened hereH Wasn#t the p!an to meet gir!s and get !aidH Wasn#t *omeo going to !earn a!! the bri!!iant techniGues of the gurus and create a rock star !ifest !e for himse!fH Wh is he in a (> month dr spe!!, after thousands of hours of stud ingH

,hat %ent %rong(+ "ubstituting ma!e communit $a!idation for fema!e companionship 2+ Internet $a!idation ,+ /ero worship >+ Information o$er!oad C+ Lack of a p!an A+ Lack of human interaction in rea! !ife .+ 3o one he!d him accountab!e 8+ 3o one ga$e him an good ad$ice

0nfortunate! , this stor is a!! too common. I wou!d estimate that this p!ight affects more than M0J of Pickup students. I ca!! these fo!ks who are affected b these issues the IK 3ation. IK stands for ke board 2ocke . % ke board 2ocke is a person who studies and reads pickup information, but does not use it in rea! !ife. &he good news is that hope is not !ost for the IK 3ation. I#$e de$e!oped a s stem of education that pre$ents these prob!ems before the start in newbies. It a!so functions to rehabi!itate IKs. &he ma come in as IKs, but the are Guick! transformed into a true Pickup %rtist who !i$es an action packed !ife and is no !onger a passi$e obser$er. I#$e imp!emented a!! of these pre$enti$e measures into the ,0-,0 6!ub, both in the forum and in the curricu!um. I#d !ike to share these with ou, because e$en if ou are not a member of the ,0-,0 6!ub, perhaps ou can benefit from imp!ementing some of these ideas.

Section 8: Cro! ;e%bie to JJ in &ust 1( !onthsK

3ow that ou#$e heard *omeo#s stor , ma be ou know peop!e !ike him or ma be ou are !ike him ourse!f. Let me get more specific about what#s going on here. /ere#s are the stages of newbie de$e!opment, as it often p!a s out across the wor!d. 1D L<iscoveryLD &his is when our first disco$er that ou can read books about how to get !aid. 1uring this phase ou are e<cited to ha$e found it. 8ou are ecstatic that the !iterature is a$ai!ab!e. "ome newbies start to see themse!$es as superior to others, and start to see the wor!d as @en!ightened@ gu s who stud P0, and @the rest of the wor!d,@ poor uninformed idiots. &here is no fie!d time for most peop!e in this stage. (D L4uru 0ole ModelL+ When ou#re a teenager, ou pick our fa$orite music-mo$ie-band-sport and that becomes a !arge part of our identit . When ou#re new to Pickup, ou pick our fa$orite guru and that becomes a part of our identit . EIt doesn#t ha$e to be a we!! known guru, it can be an one who#s writing on the internetF. &his seems to be a norma! part of the de$e!opment, and not necessari! a bad thing. It#s on! a prob!em if there is sti!! no fie!d time. .D LSurrogate activitiesL+ &his is the part where ou are scared to go into the fie!d, so ou 2oin a !air or take sa!sa !essons instead, so ou can fee! !ike ou#re mo$ing forward. 'or man peop!e, sti!! no fie!d time. :D LAcceptance and involve!ent in surrogate activitiesL + 8ou start to get rea!! in$o!$ed in the !air, or sa!sa, or ou start ta!king a!! the time on an on!ine forum. 8ou become a @known gu @ and this is e<citing. "ti!! no fie!d time. But ou can speak with authorit , since ou#re a known gu , sometimes ou start gi$ing our opinion, or e$en gi$ing ad$ice. ?D LS!all atte!pt F1L+ &his is that part where ou get frustrated and ou sa @1%73 I#V4 O)&&% O4& &/I" /%31L41P &/I" I" B0LL"/I&PP@ %t this point ou sign up for something where other peop!e wi!! pressure ou to do approaches. 7a be a workshop, or group !air outing, or something !ike that. %t this point, the student wi!! e<pect this training to so!$e e$er thing, and resu!t in being ab!e to approach a!! the time. But since it#s on! a few da s, it#s not a !ong enough change in beha$ior to resu!t in a permanent difference. % tru! decisi$e action wou!d be to sarge e$er da for A months. 3ot sarge (+, times in a weekend. Ooing in fie!d a few times is a :sma!! attempt; at impro$ing. )ut of e$er thing in these stages, #decisi$e action# is the thing which works best, and is a turning point for man peop!e. "ome gu s Ethe winning CJF go on to huge successes. &he take their first decisi$e action and from there the 2ust keep ro!!ing and ro!!ing. But if it doesn#t work, we get to the ne<t stage. 8D L<isillusion!entL+ "tudent gets angr at himse!f, or angr at the coaches, or angr at the

forum, or angr at the wor!d. /e wants to b!ame someone or something for his !ack of resu!ts. &he rea!it of the situation is that his first attempt was 2ust not enough. It#s that simp!e. But since the student was o$er! +optimistic about the process, and underestimated the work in$o!$ed, he fee!s disi!!usioned. >D LSticking %ith itL + &he student sti!! wants success in this area more than an thing, so he sticks with it. /e f!uctuates through surrogate acti$ities, sma!! attempts at decisi$e action, and continues to be a @known gu @ on a forum or in sa!sa and en2o s that sense of be!onging. 'or most peop!e, there is !itt!e to no fie!d time in the future. =D LPoint o) no returnL + &his is the point where ou#$e spent so much time not going into the fie!d, that it 2ust becomes norma!. 8ou#$e accepted that ou are not going to take action, but ou c!ing to the hope that ma be someda some e<terna! force or e$ent wi!! happen where ou are spurred into !earning. 3othing e$er happens. 8ou are a IK for !ife.

Section ?: $he Illness and the ure

In this section we wi!! e<amine the s stematic forces which ha$e created the IK 3ation. *emember, there#s no one person out there who is intentiona!! tr ing to turn ou from an ambitious beginner to a Ie board Kocke . &he prob!em is syste!atic. It#s a comp!e< situation. Ieep in mind the fo!!owing facts+ 'ree 'orums get paid b ad$ertisers, who pa according to how much traffic the forum gets. It#s in the forum owner#s best interest to keep ou coming back e$er da , whether ou#re going in the fie!d or not. Info+7arketing Professiona!s make mone when ou bu a product. &he use sophisticated persuasion techniGues and ingenious sa!es !etters to get ou to bu products, and to keep ou coming back for more. Info+7arketers are doing ou a ser$ice b de!i$ering !ife+changing information to ou in a pa!atab!e wa that can 2ump start our 2ourne . /owe$er, in most cases, Info+ 7arketers don#t concern themse!$es with how much ou#re going into the fie!d. &here is no incenti$e for Info+7arketers to get ou in fie!d. In fact, e$en if the wanted to, there wou!d be nothing the cou!d do to get ou off our ass. &heir area of e<pertise is how to se!!, not how to moti$ate ou to work on something which is difficu!t at first. &he Internet itse!f is a b!ack ho!e of infinite time wasting options. 4$er time ou think ou ha$e enough information to take action, the Internet wi!! ser$e up better and more a!!uring forms of information. 4ach seems to ho!d the promise of some magic tidbit which wi!! so!$e a!! our prob!ems. %s it turns out, the Internet can indeed gi$e ou powerfu!, !ife changing information. It can a!so seduce ou into sitting in a chair unti! our best opportunit to use this information has s!ipped past ou. When ou are new, ou ha$e a go!den opportunit to get in the fie!d before information o$er!oad starts to set in, the !onger ou wait, the harder it wi!! be. When ou are new, ou ha$e a choice. 8ou can sit in a comfortab!e chair stud ing, c!inging to the fa!se be!ief that the stud ing is actua!! he!ping, or ou can go in the fie!d and confront a m riad of uncomfortab!e situations and difficu!t persona! growth. 7ost peop!e choose the first option because it is easier. But it is the second option that actua!! he!ps ou impro$e.

*emember, no one is going to he!p ou if ou don#t he!p ourse!f. 8ou must be vigilant in order to a$oid uncontro!!ed time wasting. 8ou must be vigilant against our own tendenc to

take the eas road.

@igilance M@igLiGlanceM, n. N/. vigilantia: c). C. vigilance.OD ,atch)ulness in respect o) dangerP careP cautionP circu!spection
/ere#s a s stem of best practices for students who hope to achie$e success+ (+ 7ake sure ou go in the fie!d %LL &/4 &I74. ,+. times a week is good. 2+ Ieep track of what info ou are taking in. 1on#t do an aim!ess reading, on! read materia! that pertains direct! to what ou are working on in our game. 7ake sure ou are spending 2 hours in the fie!d for e$er ( hour ou spend stud ing. Ewhen I sa :the fie!d,; that inc!udes phone-te<t game, going on dates, hanging with women ou#$e been fucking, and of course co!d approachingF. ,+ 6hoose )3L8 )34 74&/)1 and gi$e it a chance for a whi!e. Oi$e it A+(2 months before ou tr something e!se. When ou mi< methods together, ou s!ow our !earning process down. 8ou wi!! e$entua!! sti!! !earn, but I assume ou wou!d rather !earn fast than s!ow. &he fastest wa is to take a method from a !egit teacher and do it in its purest form for a whi!e. 6ommit to the method comp!ete! . 1on#t whine or comp!ain or nitpick it, 2ust do it e<act! as it#s e<p!ained. When I sa @!egit teacher@ I mean a teacher who is fie!d tested. It doesn#t ha$e to be a commercia! guru, but it does ha$e to be someone with rea! resu!ts in the fie!d. 6oaches who ha$e taught !i$e workshops in front of rea! students for ears are the sure thing. If the were bu!!shitting, there wou!d be bad re$iews e$er where. Peop!e who are @writers@ and don#t do pickup in front of !i$e students wi!! a!wa s be Guestionab!e. 6ou!d be good, cou!d be bad, no one rea!! knows. >+ 1on#t be unrea!istic. %ccept the fact that this wi!! take a !ong time, and wi!! be a !ot of work. 4n2o the process. 1on#t whine about it. 1on#t be a puss . Kust take our !umps and rea!i=e it wi!! toughen ou up. P!an on in$esting A+(8 months before ou see consistent resu!ts. &hen when ou get there, the resu!ts !ast a !ifetime, so it#s tota!! worth it. C+ 1on#t take shortcutsP &ake our time and !earn stuff the right wa . It is wa faster to !earn right the first time. If ou take shortcuts, ou wi!! 2ust ha$e to !earn it again !ater. Learning 2 or , or > times takes much !onger. &hat#s wh gu s become !ifers and the are sti!! here tr ing to !earn . ears !ater. 1o not rush the !earning process.

<o not let your brain get out o) control and start saying L3I, /I;4 E;$I/ I 4"$ 4II<--KK--L every ? !inutes. %sking ourse!f that Guestion is what makes the !earning take !onger.

$he Question is L3o% long %ill it take to get good-L $he ans%er is LIt %ill take as long as it takes.L

/ere#s a s stem of best practices for forums who want students to succeed, and put student success abo$e the pursuit of traffic and ad$ertising do!!ars+

Oi$e e$er student (+2 months to read up and choose a s stem to fo!!ow, at which point he must begin a regiment of meeting women and taking action to imp!ement what he#s !earning. %bo!ish the (2 month :reading up; period. /a$e e$er student keep track of hours in the fie!d and hours spent stud ing. %dd this info to his signature on the forum. &his wi!! force students to pa attention to the fact that their fie!d time to stud time ratio might be comp!ete! out of whack. 1iscourage peop!e from gi$ing ad$ice if the are not getting !aid et. )n m ,0-,0 forum, I ha$e a ru!e prohibiting ad$ice from students who aren#t getting !aid. We simp! de!ete the ad$ice or ban the user if he continues $io!ating the ru!es. )n !arger forums, it ma not be possib!e to enforce a ru!e !ike this, but it is possib!e to create an atmosphere that discourages ad$ice from IKs. /a$e each student keep track of how man approaches he#s done that month, how man number c!oses, fu!! c!oses, and dates. /a$e students !ist this information in their signature. &his creates a cu!ture of accountabi!it . % cu!ture of accountabi!it makes a big difference. If ou#re a student, and ou#re the on! gu on a forum without an approaches this month, ou wi!! want to go out and do some in order to catch up with the others.

/ere#s a signature format that cou!d he!pD

3ours studying: . this %eek 3ours in )ield: > this %eek A2:. B2> F2. J21 <21 C21

Eapproach, b!owout, number c!oses, kiss, date, fu!! c!oseF

Section >: In the Brink o) 4reatness

I think b this point I#$e made m point about what#s going on in the e<isting s stem for Learning Pickup on the Internet. (+ It#s not working. % $er sma!! percentage of readers are getting success. 2+ It#s actua!! pre$enting peop!e from succeeding in man cases. /owe$er, there is good news. 'or the peop!e who do manage to a$oid IK s ndrome, the resu!ts are magnificent. %!though the s stem is broken at the present time, it sti!! contains a!! the ingredients needed for a huge breakthrough. *ight now, with a few sma!! tweaks, we cou!d possib! get that CJ number up to 2CJ or ma be e$en C0J. &he materia! is tru! powerfu!. Women !o$e this stuff. If ou don#t be!ie$e me, go and tr some of it out. &he techniGues in the seduction communit work !ike gangbusters. Let#s take a moment to hear some of the ama=ing stories from gu s who took action and app!ied what the were stud ing. &hese success stories are tru! ama=ing, and I know for a fact that the are (00J true, since I#$e known these gu s persona!! for a !ong time.

Success Story F1 Stylish haos .*5.* lub

I %ant to give so!e inspiration to the ne% guys %ho &ust &oined up and tell you %hat .*5.* has done )or !e personally. Be)ore .*5.* I had a hard ti!e approaching %o!en and getting really good results. I have bounced in and out o) so!e pretty cool social circles and have been around so!e really hot %o!en. <uring that ti!e I picked up the occasional lay, )uck buddy and girl)riend but it al%ays see!ed like it %as by chance. A)ter getting played by a su!!er )ling I decided to get !y shit together. I had 1( !onths le)t o) school and 1( !onths to get a handle on !y dating li)e be)ore !oving to a ne% city and starting out )resh. I'! not gonna lie the )irst couple !onths %ere rough. I re!e!ber going out by !ysel) 6%hich %as enough o) a challenge7 but also approaching &ust about every hottie I ran into. I %ould get blo%n out a lot, say shit that back)ired, and get denied %hen asking )or a nu!ber. <uring that ti!e I developed so!ething that 9*+ o) the guys that %alk the earth don't have.... its called con)idence. I learned that it doesn't !atter %hat the results %ere %ith any girl I encountered, I %as !aking progress in !y ga!e. $he !ore ti!es I got shot do%n and blo%n out, the !ore !istakes I corrected. $hat con)idence allo%ed !e to overco!e !y approach an#iety and !eet a girl that has literally rocked !y %orld. I !et this girl back in Septe!ber and pulled her nu!ber. She had a boy)riend at the ti!e so I had a hard ti!e getting her to !eet up. <uring the ti!e that %e %ere chatting5te#ting I %as doing !y approaches, learning and per)ecting !y ga!e. In the beginning o) <ece!ber she asked !e i) I %anted to !eet up a)ter %ork. I took her out to the bars 6she isn't (1 so this %as a huge display o) value7 and then took her ho!e and )ucked her. /ater she ad!itted that she %as too drunk to re!e!ber %hich e#plains %hy the ne#t night she got a hold o) !e to hang out and )uck !e again.. this ti!e %hile she %as sober. I re!e!ber a)ter %e )irst hooked up %e %ere %atching Lthe pickup artistL on @31 and she !ade a co!!ent about ho% that stu)) doesn't %ork. In !y !ind I %as thinking its that type o) strategy that got !e laid last night. So!e guys %ould stop pursuing i) they kne% she had a boy)riend.. I didn't. Most guys %ould )ail her shit tests.. I passed the! all. /ots o) guys %ould get needy a)ter landing a girl like this.. I &ust gave her the i!pression that it %as no big deal and it happens all the ti!e. Jeep in !ind this girl looks like she %alked right o)) a Ma#i! cover. So %e continued to talk and I later )ound out that I %as the (nd guy she has ever slept %ith. $his girl did everything )or her boy)riend. She picked up a)ter hi!. She bought hi! )ood all the ti!e. She basically %as the per)ect girl and this douchebag %as %alking all over her. I spent about : %eeks trying to convince her to du!p hi! and then one %eek be)ore @Dday she did. ,e instantly started hanging out all the ti!e. I spent @Dday %ith her. 3er birthday %as right a)ter and I did the !eet and greet %ith her parents. ,e are going on spring break together here in a couple %eeks. ;eedless to say things are per)ect. I guess the point I'! trying to !ake is that the .*5.* club has given !e the con)idence to pickup 9s and 1*s as %ell as strategies to get nu!bers, get the! on dates, get the! into bed, and develop the !indset to keep the! interested )or the long haul. I) you put in the ti!e you %ill be a!aRed at the results.

Success Story F( Strelok .*5.* lub

3ey everyone, I a! currently in Month 9 and I had (* cold approach lays since &oining the .*5.* lub.

I a! currently .., and I have been learning pickup since Ceb (**= 6in the .*5.* since July (**=, so I &ust started Month 1*7. Prior to stu!bling on PE at the age o) .(, I %as a typical clueless loser, probably even belo% average. I lost !y virginity at (1 ... %ith a hooker. I )ucked the )irst nonDhooker girl at (.. $hen I had a couple o) long ter! relationships 6about a year long each7 %hich got !e con)used and disillusioned in %o!en. A)ter that I had a : year period %hen I %as )ucking lots o) hot hookers because I believed that I &ust could not attract a hot %o!an i) I didn't pay her. So, by the age o) .* I %as very !uch )ucked up in the head about !y %orthiness as a !an. $hen, I !et !y <rea! 4irl. She %as all I ever %anted in a girl D !odel looks, a!bitious and e#ceptionally success)ul in her career, s!art, great sense o) hu!or. I !anaged to start dating her 6!eeting and !aking out at !ost7 and %as co!pletely s!itten. I %anted to !arry this girl ASAPK So, I beca!e needy, and as you kno%, neediness is instant death in this ga!e. I did not kno% anything about pickup at the ti!e, so %hen she stopped talking to !e, I %as in shock. B$,, I never )ucked her. So, I lost sleep i!agining so!e other guy6s7 )ucking L!yL girl. I %as in e!otional pain and it sucked, but on the other hand, it %as that Lkick in the assL that )orces you to start !oving in the right direction. I got a strong urge o) LI %anna )igure this dating thing outKL but I didn't kno% %here to start. <iscovering the PE co!!unity ,hen I stu!bled upon PE co!!unity, I %as very skeptical. I didn't believe that it %as possible to learn to pickDup %o!en. My sel)Dli!iting belie) %as that guys either can do it naturally, or they can't at all 6no !atter ho% !uch they tried7. /uckily, I e#plored this topic a bit on the internet and a ne% %orld opened to !eK I still couldn't believe that it %as possible )or M" to learn this stu)), but I %as hooked and decided to play %ith it any%ay 6because it couldn't get any %orse, heheK7. /earning PE preD.*5.* My learning started in Ceb (**= and consisted o) typical devouring o) any in)or!ation I could get. I could have beco!e a victi! o) Lin)or!ation glutL %hich happens to so !any guys, but escaped it by !anaging to get !y ass into the )ield 6night clubs7 in March (**=. 3onestly, at )irst I %as scared shitless to go out. I hadn't been to night clubs )or 1* yearsK Any%ay, I %ent out and got luckyK $he )irst night in the )ield I cold approached a girl 6(* y.o. =7 and )ucked her a %eek later on <ay .K $hat %as de)initely an eye opener )or !e. I got )irst hand proo) that this pickup stu)) %orks )or !e. Cor the ne#t three !onths I continued going into the )ield t%ice a %eek but did not get any ne% cold approach lays. So!ething %as not %orking. I started believing that this pickup stu)) %as probably not )or !e and %as about to Quit. $hen, luckily, I discovered the .*5.* lub. .*5.* "#perience July (**= %as !y Month 1 in the lub. Epon &oining the lub I already had : !onths o) )ield e#perience and also kne% bits and pieces o) pickup theory. 3o%ever, that co!bination still did not %ork %ell.

But once I got e#posed to .*5.* !aterial and started learning things in the correct order, !y ga!e took o)) i!!ediately. It %as a %ild rideK I )ucked : ne% girls o)) cold approach in Month 1 aloneK I couldn't )ucking believe it, hahaK $hen I got ( ne% lays in Month ( 6both %ere I;Ss7, : ne% lays in Month . and : ne% lays in Month :. $hen I )ucked ( ne% girls in Month ? and by that ti!e collected a rotation o) > )uck buddies 6!ostly =s7. I %ent )ro! having ne#t to Rero girls in !y li)e to having so !any that I couldn't physically )uck the! on a regular basis. So I started C/AJI;4 on girls, hahaK 4etting so !any ne% girls so Quickly also killed !y !otivation to learn and approach. I had !assive di))iculties getting !y ass into the cold %inter nights to go sarge Mosco% clubs. It got so bad that in Month 8 I did not get any ne% lays. $hat %as unacceptable )or !e, so I i!!ediately ditched !y %hole rotation and beca!e se#Dhungry again. $hat ditching had positive results, as I got 1 ne% lay in Month > and Month = and ( ne% lays in Month 9. Also, in Month 9 I )Dclosed !y )irst 9. As o) today, I )ucked (* ne% girls %hile in the .*5.* lub 6all o) these are cold approaches7. Starting )ro! /ayF> I started posting detailed lay reports in a separate thread: http:55)oru!.bradp.co!5sho%thread.php-t2?>? $hese !ay be considered L$he Adventures o) Strelok in the .*5.* lubL, hahaK

Identity <evelop!ent Ine area that I a! very content %ith is identity develop!ent. I realiRe no% that the .*5.* lub gave !e the courage to drea! and to act on these drea!s. Ine o) !y drea!s is to see !any countries in the %orld, the other one is to learn to kiteDsur) at an advanced level. $hese are the things that I 0"A//S %ant to do. At )irst, I did not kno% ho% to proceed in pursuing the!. $hen in Month : I probably gre% enough balls and realiRed D to achieve !y drea!s I have to take a long vacation 6about a year long7. So, that's %hat I plan to do. In Cebruary or March (*1* I %ill Quit !y &ob and go )or a year long LCollo% $he ,indL trip 6visiting all !a&or kite sur)ing spots in the %orld7. $hese %ill include @ietna!, BraRil, Mauritus and @eneRuela a!ong others. Also, I plan to ga!e a lot in this trip 6all across the %orld7. So, (*1* %ill be the year o) Lse#, kite sur)ing and rock'n'rollLK

Success Story F. Tuantu! .*5.* lub

I've had se# %ith a di))erent girl every !onth since I &oined the .*5.* club. $hey %ere A// )ro! cold approaches. ,ho %ill be the lucky %inner this !onth$hree !ain highlights: 17 I picked up ( separate girls one night and gave one to !y )riend. ,e both got laid (7 I have a high Quality Ph< student %ho I'! having se# %ith a couple o) ti!es a %eek. .7 I got a hand &ob )ro! an Ivy league chick in literally > !inutes...that %as so!e craRy shit.

Success Story F: SCla!ingo .*5.* lub

Since last seeing Brad on May (:th.....I !ade a %ritten goal, to nail .* %o!en in 1( !onths. It's no% been 8 !onths. Since then i have 1? ne% lays, and . blo% &obs in !y car in 1* !inutes or lessK 3e de)initely helped re)ocus !y !indDsetK $he guy is a great teacherK

Success Story F? Shine .*5.* lub

I a! going to keep this short and s%eet. $he longer story is in the graduate board and the se# and escalation !onth. I got a blo% &ob )ro! a girl I %as escalating on Cacebook and had !et at a party. She looked !e up and be)riended !e. $he blo% &ob %as given in a local MA// BA$30IIM. People %alking in and out and no one kne%. Just letting you all kno%, it %orksK

)I b now I think ou get the idea. &hese gu s are ha$ing ama=ing resu!ts because the app!ied the materia!. &heir dreams are coming true. &his is going on across the wor!d, not on! in ,0-,0, but with peop!e using other methods as we!!. $hese results are typical )or those %ho go in )ield and apply the!selves.

It's ti!e to !ake !y reco!!endations on %hat you should do to increase your chances o) success. It wou!d be nice if a!! the forums took m suggestions and made radica! changes in the IK cu!ture the are fostering. But !et#s face it, the s stem is probab! going to sta the wa it is now. &he peop!e who run it wi!! probab! continue catering to the IKs, !urkers, and toe+dippers in order to keep their web traffic f!owing. QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ
Tuick run do%n o) ter!s: JJD Jeyboard Jockey $his is a guy %ho is al%ays reading and typing on the co!puter, but doesn't !eet any %o!en in real li)e. /urkerD A lurker is so!eone %ho reads a )oru! all the ti!e, but does not post or talk to anyone. $oeDdipper $his is so!eone %ho &ust Adips his toe in the %aterB to see %hat it %ill be like. In the pickup %orld, a toe dipper !ay take a %orkshop here and there, or do an approach here and there, but does not take action on a consistent basis. Man o) ActionD $his is so!eone %ho reads seduction !aterial, and takes action by using it right a%ay. UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

/ere#s what ou can do to make sure ou#re in the winning CJ, and ou don#t become 2ust another 6asua!t of the Information %ge. 1D <o not spend a prolonged period of time :reading up; and :working on inner game; before ou start imp!ementing what ou are reading. &he best time to start is the first week ou find this materia!. If ou find this materia! on the internet on a &hursda , b 'rida ou shou!d bu a book of openers and go out to start tr ing them. &he abso!ute ma<imum time ou shou!d spend stud ing before ou begin approaching is 2 months. If ou wait !onger than 2 months, our window of opportunit wi!! start c!osing. &he !onger ou wait, the harder it wi!! be. If ou#re working on inner game, go in the fie!d at the same time. 3o need to a$oid the fie!d 2ust because ou#re fi<ing inner game.

(D hoose one syste! and gi$e it a chance for at !east (2 months before ou gi$e up and

switch to something e!se. 1uring the first ear of !earning pickup, there are man interna! changes that go on beneath the surface. &hese changes are positi$e and necessar , but the don#t a!wa s !ead to immediate, ob$ious resu!ts. 7an students wi!! spend A months !earning, not get !aid et, and b!ame the guru or methodo!og that he is working with. &his is a mistake. In most cases, this initia! effort !eads to in$isib!e impro$ements which wi!! support a !ifetime of success. If that student wou!d 2ust stick with it for a fu!! (2 months, the resu!ts wou!d be e<ce!!ent. B switching to a new method ha!fwa through, a student wi!! significant! s!ow down the !earning process. It is a ma2or setback, and this is wh it can often take peop!e ,+> ears to !earn. 7ost students are constant! chasing their tai!s, switching methods e$er few months and combining things that were ne$er designed to work together. If ou do this, it wi!! turn our brain into a mess. 6an ou !earn if ou are constant! switching methods and mi<ing methodsH 8es. It wi!! 2ust take a !ot !onger. When ou switch methods, ou#re adding on (+, ears to our !earning process. .D /earn things in the right order. "tart with beginner stuff, and don#t mo$e on to harder stuff unti! ou ha$e !earned the beginner stuff thorough! . If ou don#t know what I mean b :Beginner "tuff,; ou shou!d down!oad the ,0-,0 Workbook. It#s free. :D 4et advice )ro! people %ho get laid, not JJs. If ou are going to get ad$ice on a forum, fee! free to ask the ad$isers if the ha$e an co!d approach !a s. If the do not, then ou shou!d disregard their ad$ice. &aking ad$ice from gu s who don#t get !aid wi!! add an indeterminab!e amount of time to our !earning process. In some cases, the ad$ice can be so damaging that if ou !isten to it on a consistent basis, ou wi!! ne$er succeed. ?D <o ( hours in the )ield )or every 1 hour you spend studying. :In the fie!d; means approaching, doing phone game, going on dates, and corresponding with gir!#s ou#$e met. :"tud ing; means reading forums, reading eBooks, watching 1V1s, writing fie!d reports, and an thing where ou are taking in information that can be used to succeed with women. 8D <on't beco!e an AApproach Artist.B Be carefu! that ou ha$en#t de$e!oped into a gu who can approach but can#t get !aid. )$er the !ast few ears, there#s been a boom in weak+sauce methodo!ogies that teach gu s to approach, but don#t teach them to get !aid. &he message has become saniti=ed for the mainstream , and it#s become about :bui!ding

socia! ski!!s; and :becoming a better man; etc. I#m a!! for bui!ding socia! ski!!s, but if the materia! is not getting ou !aid, then there#s something wrong with the method. "o if ou#$e been approaching for a ear or more, and ou can approach but ou are showing no progress towards getting !aid, it might be time to tr a more e<treme methodo!og . &he most important thing is being ab!e to get !aid. &he amount of b!owouts ou get a!ong the wa doesn#t matter, as !ong as the end resu!t is there. &he importance of being ab!e to approach without getting b!own out has been o$er+ emphasi=ed in the seduction communit . &eaching a b!owout+proof approach method that doesn#t get students !aid is the eas wa out for both the teachers and the students. It is easier for the teacher to teach, and it caters to the fears of the student. Be carefu! not to fa!! into this trap. >D Be a serious student. lear your schedule to work on this area of our !ife. 1on#t tr to work 80 hours a week whi!e ou#re !earning this. It#s not gonna work out for ou. 6ut back our hours to >0 or !ess. =D <on't beco!e the Aseduction consu!er.B &his is a gu who e$a!uates seminars and products based on how man pages were in the book how man hours were in the 1V1 how man hours was the seminar how man do!!ars were spent per page-hour &his kind of thinking wi!! !ead ou down the wrong road. &he on! thing that matters is what resu!ts ou get out of it. It#s not !ike! ou#re going to be ab!e to imp!ement e$er thing in a 2> 1V1 set an time soon, so a!! ou#re doing with that is c!ogging up our brain. If ou#re so worried about :getting our mone #s worth; that ou neg!ect to identif and imp!ement the !essons that are app!icab!e to ou, ou#re 2ust going to mo$e backwards. If ou#re a serious student, ou shou!d take one or two tips and run with them. 0se them in the fie!d o$er and o$er unti! ou perfect the techniGue. 3obod needs 2> 1V1s a!! in one da . &hat stuff is for seduction consumers who are a!! uptight about the mone the 2ust spent. Ou s who are constant! thinking about mone $s. $a!ue are rare! ab!e to app! their energ to !earning pickup in the fie!d. Kust grab what techniGues ou can from an thing ou bu , and then get into the fie!d and run with it. 8ou don#t ha$e to ana! =e our purchase o$er and o$er end!ess! tr ing to 2ustif the

mone

ou 2ust spent.

=D I) you need help )ro! !e.... 7ost peop!e don#t ha$e the discip!ine to stick to a!! the ru!es I 2ust went o$er. It can be so eas to 2ust cruise the internet a!! da and not get an thing done. 'or an one who needs he!p from me, I ha$e designed a curricu!um where a!! of these recommendations are bui!t in. It#s ca!!ed the ,0-,0 6!ub. It#s (2 months of focused !earning, with a!! !essons correct! sorted b me, and ad$ice from coaches who a!! get !aid Eno IKsF. 8ou wi!! meet ,0 new women per month, and our !earning process wi!! be structured and managed b me. We ha$e the highest rate of success in the wor!d, so I strong! recommend ou check it out. 6!ick here to 2oin.

Section =: /et Me 4ive It to Sou Straight

If ou#$e been pa ing attention to what ou#re reading here, b now ou shou!d be scared to death about what cou!d happen if ou get sucked into the b!ack $orte< of information that#s ca!!ing to ou from the Internet. "o !et#s 2ust be sure ou get the idea here.

I) you stick to a structured plan %ith good advice, no in)or!ation overload, %ell ti!ed in)or!ation, and you go in the )ield regularly, you can e#pect the )ollo%ing results. impro$ed socia! ski!!s !ots of se< with hot gir!s successfu! re!ationships fa!!ing in !o$e with the gir! of our dreams de$e!oping a magnetic persona!it increased success in a!! wa!ks of !ife

I) you don't start applying %hat you study right a%ay, you can e#pect the )ollo%ing results: !one!iness socia! iso!ation a !ife of unhappiness no attention from women !ong dr spe!!s where ou don#t ha$e se< Eit cou!d be earsF an<iet in socia! situations for the rest of our !ife forming socia! connections with !ots of de!usiona! men who stud but don#t app! ou cou!d become an eterna! IK, !urker, or toe+dipper

7a be ou think it#s going to be scar to approach women awkward! for the ne<t few months whi!e ou#re getting our ski!!s together. 7a be ou think bad things might happen or peop!e might make fun of ou. %fter teaching thousands of students o$er the !ast . ears, m opinion is that most newbie students ha$e fears that are comp!ete! unrea!istic. 'or e<amp!e, I don#t ha$e one sing!e student who has gotten punched b a 2ea!ous bo friend. I don#t ha$e one sing!e student who has been s!apped b a gir!. &his stuff simp! does not happen. But since man peop!e are frightened of it, I#!! grant ou that it#s a possibi!it .

Let#s take a moment to decide which is more frighteningH /ive your entire li)e lonely %ith no %o!en I0 4et in a )ight, get punched, end up healing 1 %eek later Which is more scar H I think I#d rather be punched in the face a few times than !i$e the rest of m !ife with no puss and no !o$e. /ow about ouH /ow wou!d ou fee! about a !ife sentence of ce!ibac H 6an ou imagine what that wou!d be !ikeH &hink about it. 3o se< e$er again. 4V4*PP

,hat you are currently scared o): Jealous boy)riend %hooping your ass. ,hat you should be scared o): Sour o%n laptop paralyRing your ass.
)I !et#s do another one. Which is more frighteningH /ive your entire li)e %ith no %o!en I0 Sour )riends !ake )un o) you )or a )e% %eeks because you are doing a%k%ard beginner approaches Which is more scar H I think I#d rather ha$e m friends tease me a !itt!e then go the rest of m !ife not getting the women I want. &ake a moment to think about this. 8our who!e !ife ou ha$e been thinking about a certain kind of gir!, or a certain kind of re!ationship, or a certain kind of se<ua! scenario. 8ou know ou want it. 8ou sa in our head ou wou!d do an thing to get it. But when the chips are down, the short term danger of our friends# disappro$a! turns ou into a comp!ete wuss and it#s possib!e that ou might ne$er begin chasing our dream.

If ou#re e$er going to become a 7an of %ction, ou must accept this one factD $he long ter! conseQuences o) not going in the )ield are %ay !ore da!aging to you than any )ight or any hu!iliation could ever be. If ou don#t get off our ass %"%P and start app! ing what ou#$e been stud ing, ou ma go our entire !ife without succeeding with women. It happens to mi!!ions of men. I rea!i=e that sometimes our fears can dictate our actions, that#s wh I#m tr ing to be rea! with ou here. Oetting s!apped b a gir! or getting b!own out a few hundred times is not detrimenta! to our Gua!it of !ife. "pending the ne<t ten ears dicking around on the internet, wanting to meet women but ne$er going out to approach....now that#s prett detrimenta!. $hat is what ou shou!d be afraid of. Wasting awa ten ears of our !ife, with nothing to show for it, now that is tru! terrif ing. I want ou to remember that. *emember how dangerous this is. *emember how serious this is. P!ease, for ou own sake, don#t !et the ne<t ten ears pass ou b without chasing our dreams. "tart now. "tart toda . 7ake a rea! step towards getting the women ou want. "top kidding ourse!f. *eading on the Internet is not getting ou an where. I want to change the entire course of our de$e!opment, and reading this report has been the first step. I#$e changed the !i$es of thousands of men. "ome of them 2ust need to take m workshop, and it gi$es them the 2ump start the need to do serious work on their game. )ther gu s don#t do a workshop, the work within the e!egant structure of the ,0-,0 6!ub. It#s a cost effecti$e wa to grow our game. Whether we end up working together or not, I wish ou the best of !uck in our 2ourne , and I hope ou don#t end up becoming 2ust another 6asua!t of the Information %ge.