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contributed to the ending of apartheid. I was so touched. It [has] stuck [with] me since then the
sense of human decency, such humility and humbleness, such a great man of the world who was
saying that it was not only him, that there were known and unknown, hundreds and hundreds of
people. He repeated this two, three times. Then, I again in the course of my dialogue, I told him,
well, President Mandela, we are grateful for your contribution, for [your] lifelong contribution to
make this world just and to end apartheid. He said again, repeated same thing, no, its not only
me. There are hundreds and hundreds of known and unknown people who made this happen.
That was a moment of deep inspiration for me. This is [something] Im still keeping, and Ive
been speaking to many of our colleagues look, this is what such a great man said. This is really
a sense of human decency and humility, and Im deeply grateful for what he has left during his
lifetime to make this world just and fair and equal for everybody. Thank you.
Q: Is there any single message that Nelson Mandela has made throughout the years that run
particularly true with you and that you think applies today in Africa and throughout the rest of
the world? Because one of the things he often said was that the whole cause of freedom was still
a work in progress.
SG: Africa and many countries in the world during the last century and many centuries before
have suffered from this colonial rule and abuse and violations of human rights and human
dignity. Only because of such great men like Nelson Mandela is it possible that, particularly
people in Africa and elsewhere, are able to enjoy freedom and human dignity. But Im still very
much humbled. If we think [of the] current state of the world, where still many people,
particularly vulnerable groups, women and girls, particularly in conflict areas, whose human
rights are totally abused and violated, we have to learn from the wisdom and determination and
commitment of President Mandela to make this world better for all. That is why I really wanted
to express my deepest admiration and respect to President Mandela and the people of South
Africa and all people of Africa. Thank you very much. Thank you.