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Hisham

Marine engineer Tug Weight estimation

Join Date: Oct 2005 Rep: 28 Posts: 48 Location: Egypt

Could any one tell me how to estimate the light weight of a towing and oil recovery tug (principle dimension are known) I know a several methods based on a basis or sister ships, but I have a shortage in available data so I cant use these methods I need fast formula (not accurate but almost near) I found this formula: Light Weight = 0.2 (L.B.D) tons Is this formula true?
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jehardiman
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If in meters, more like 0.5*L*B*T = tonnes Where L = LWL, B=max beam waterline, and T = midships keel draft. How you measure D (depth of hold) or T (draft) is the key for these "rule of thumb" "calculations".
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Hisham
Marine engineer

Join Date: Oct 2005 Rep: 28 Posts: 48 Location: Egypt

Your formula can be used to determine weight of an existing tug (has a known draft) This equation based on Cb and Cp that they vary from (4.5 5.5) for tugs

What I need is to estimate the light weight in first design stage, then I can make a prediction of draft on witch the coming steps of design will depend on
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jehardiman
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You have it backwards, in the classic design spirial... 1) select L, B, and T first from shape/tonnage laws/mission considerations 2) draw the lines and curves of form 3) do the structural weight/strength 4) add the propulsion, outfit, and stores/cargo 5) check against the L, B, and T, and around the design spirial again. If what you want is a quick and dirty structural weight then here is a way to get close. shell weight = surface area of the hull * plating weight deck weight = surface area of the decks * plating weight plating weight = shell weight +deck weight structure weight = 50-70% of plating weight light ship weight = plating weight + structure weight+ machinery weight + 7% of the total other weights for paint and welds/fastenings.
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Guillermo
Ingeniero Naval

Join Date: Mar 2005 Rep: 2131 Posts: 3,592 Location: Pontevedra, Spain

According to my notes on tugs, a first approach to displacement in light ship condition (WR), when in the first stages of design, is: 0.24*L*B*D < WR < 0.29*L*B*D (Metric units) (L =Lpp) For ice-going heavy reinforced tugs, superior limit may go up to 0.34*L*B*H __________________ Guillermo Gefaell

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Guillermo
Ingeniero Naval

Join Date: Mar 2005 Rep: 2131 Posts: 3,592 Location: Pontevedra, Spain

A second way of estimating WR, is: WR = k1*L*B*D + k2*PB (being PB the propulsive power in kW) k1 varies between 0.18 and 0.26 k2 varies between 0.08 and 0.1 __________________ Guillermo Gefaell Gestenaval S.L., Naval Architecture & Marine Engineering

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