My Lord and My God

John 20:28
by D. J. Love, Minister, TSN, TSB

refined 7-5-2003

Universal Roman, Protestant, and Christian translators and the leaders of

their power structures do not want you to know what John 20:28 really
says.

John 20:27-28 (a deliberate prejudicial translation)

27 Then he (Messiah Y'Shua) said to Thomas, "Reach here your finger,
and see my hands. Reach here your hand, and put it into my side.
Don't be faithless, but believing."
28 Thomas answered him, "My Lord, and my God!"

The following is a real term translation, and then it is followed by a true

translation of what John was really expressing.

John 20:27-28 (a real term translation in bold)

27 Then he (Messiah Y'Shua) said to Thomas, "Reach here your finger,
and see my hands. Reach here your hand, and put it into my side.
Don't be faithless, but believing."
28 Thomas answered him, "My Kurios and my Theos!"

John 20:27-28 (The True "Implied" Translation in bold)

27 Then he (Messiah Y'Shua) said to Thomas, "Reach here your finger,
 and see my hands. Reach here your hand, and put it into my side.
Don't be faithless, but believing."
28 Thomas answered him, "My Supreme Master and My Supreme
Godly Leader!"

According to Strong's Concordance (which isn't purely without prejudice) the

following are the definitions of Kurios, and Theos.

KURIOS, Strong's #2962: He who is "In Charge" or "In Authority." The

Supreme Authority (for a specific realm of influence).

THEOS, Strong's #2316: As a figure of speech, "A Magistrate" or a

"Supreme Divinity." OR "godly" (like G-d) (Image of G-d) OR even G-d (G-d
is listed only because G-d has G-dly qualities, is Divine, and is also Supreme, but G-
d is not the only one with those qualities). Strong's Concordance only lists G-d as a
last choice, because anyone that has received G-d's Holy Spirit or Righteous
Character has G-dly qualities; and The Messiah certainly has G-dly qualities. As a
matter of fact all of YHVH's "Chosen Few" (Elohyim or Godly Children) can be referred
to as a Theos.

Note: The Eternal "Self Existent" GOD (YHVH or YHVH)

can only be implied with 100% certainty when both Kurios
and Theos are placed side by side as in "KURIOS THEOS."
The conjunction 'and' (between Kurios 'and' Theos) is not
sufficient enough to replace "KURIOS THEOS." This "Side
by Side" form of "KURIOS THEOS" is used exclusively in
the 'New Testament' (The Epistles) to positively indicate only
YHVH, and not His First Appointed Son, Messiah Y'Shua.
While Messiah is both a Kurios, 'and' also a Theos, he is not a
"KURIOS THEOS."
There are zero examples of the Messiah ever being referred to
as "KURIOS THEOS" anywhere in the Bible. The following
New Testament verses are positive indicators where "KURIOS
THEOS" has been used in the Epistles to exclusively indicate
YHVH: Luke 1:32, 1:68; 1 Peter 3:15,Revelation 4:8, 11:17,
15:3, 16:7, 18:8, 19:6, 21:22, 22:5, and 22:6. However, when
you see "Lord YHVH" or Lord god" in English, this does not
 necessarily indicate "KURIOS THEOS," as is shown in Jude
1:4. Jude 1:4 says "Lord god," meaning a lesser title than
"LORD GOD."

According to Strong's Concordance:

Jude 1:4 says, "For there are certain men crept in unawares,
who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly
men, turning the grace of our G-d into lasciviousness, and
denying the only Lord god, and our Lord Messiah Y'Shua.
Here we find "Lord" to be Strong's #1203 (Despotes, which means
"Husband" or "Master of the House"). "Despotes Theos" is not
"KURIOS THEOS" (the 'Side by Side' form), thus we are not
presented with the positive indicator of YHVH, but with
YHVH's Magistrate or proxy.

The Tanakh (Older Testament) use of "Yehovah Elohiym" as

"L_RD G_D" is even more specific than "KURIOS THEOS,"
as YeHOVAH, The Self-Existent or Eternal GOD. If used with
Strong's #430, Elohiym (El-O-Heem), meaning "gods" or
"magistrates," then it indicates the "Supreme GOD".
However, Elohiym all by itself will indicate Magistrates of
GOD. I do not promote the use of the words 'god' and 'gods' to
indicate those who serve GOD or those who are His children,
as this borders on pagan polytheism.

At first glance the less knowledgeable would immediately jump to an untrue

conclusion, and ASSUME that "My Kurios and My Theos" must be G-d
(YHVH). However, one must not only look at the context of the chapter, but
one must make sure that John's statement about Thomas is entirely in
agreement with ALL Scripture. After all, YHVH's inspired word is not
chaotic, but harmonious (if properly translated and understood).

Note: Satan (source of human nature) has created a veil or

scales over the eyes of Christians, Nazarenes, and Cabalistic
Messianics. This veil leads them to approach their study of
 Inspired Scriptures and Inspired Apostolic Writings from a
preconceived PAGAN GREEK (Babylonian) perspective. That
veil being that Jesus (IHSous) is G-d. _ _ Well folks, GREEKS
and ROMANS did NOT write down the original "Inspired
Words of YHVH." Inspired Hebrews did, and not for one
second did Moses, King David, King Solomon, the prophets or
any of the Apostles (etc...) ever believe or ever make the
statement that YHVH (G-d) was more than ONE; therefore
YHVH's Inspired words must only be studied from that
Inspired Hebrew perspective.

The very first thing that MUST be understood is that Thomas had doubts
that Messiah had actually risen from among the dead. However, AFTER he
discovered that Messiah was resurrected, he immediately (mentally) applied
to the Messiah what he had previously been taught would be the Messiah's
NEW TITLES. Thomas knew beforehand that Messiah Y'Shua would be
GIVEN ALL (Supreme) AUTHORITY over Mankind and over The Earth
(Ephesians1); BUT AUTHORITY DOES NOT MAKE A HUMAN INTO
GOD ! Not even Messiah Y'Shua! In order to be G-d, you must be "Self-
existent," and Y'Shua (Jesus if you must) is not self-existent.

So what about the word "Divinity?" A "Divinity" is anyone with a "Divine

Nature." Of course, YHVH is "Divine," but so is Y'Shua, as are ALL of
YHVH's Heavenly Hosts! (Heavenly Hosts does not refer to celestial stars, but
"The 24 Elders [Rev.4:4]," "YHVH's Righteous Messengers or Angels, etc. ).

So what about the descriptive word "Supreme?" Again, since YHVH

placed Y'Shua into his position of having YHVH's Supreme Authority, as
YHVH's Supreme Magistrate ("Right Hand Man"), then Y'Shua welds all the
authority that YHVH will allow him to have; and according to the Apostolic
writings, Y'Shua acts on behalf of YHVH (as His Proxy) with all power and
authority. This is no different than a military General acting on behalf of the
President of the United States, except that the Messiah can be trusted with
YHVH's awesome power, and a mere human General cannot.

Ephesians 1:19-23
19 and what is the exceeding greatness of His (YHVH's) power
 toward us who believe, according to that working of the strength of
His might
20 which He (YHVH) worked in Messiah, when He (YHVH) raised
him from among the dead, and made him to sit at His right hand
(AS His Supreme Magistrate and Proxy) in the heavenly places,
21 far above all (Earthly) rule, and (Earthly) authority, and (Earthly)
power, and (Earthly) dominion, and every (Earthly) name that is
named, not only in this (Earthly) world , but also in that (Earthly world)
which is to come (promised land or New Jerusalem).
22 He put all (Earthly) things in subjection under his feet (Authority),
and gave him to be head over all things to the assembly
(the True Worshippers),
23 which is his body (Marriage partner or Bride), the fullness of him
who fills all in all.

There is one very common error that most people tend to make, and that is to
assume that True Statements are, also, true when applied in the reverse
order. And while it is sometimes true, it is rarely true.

True Examples:
(1) Black is the opposite of white, and thus white is the opposite of black.
(TRUE)

(2) The Righteous are like YHVH in Spirit, and thus those like YHVH in
Spirit are Righteous. (TRUE)

Untrue Examples: (These are (FALSE) relationships)

(1) All cows are animals, thus all animals are cows. (FALSE)

(2) G-d has supreme Authority, and thus all who have Supreme Authority are
G-d. (FALSE) Yes, this is absolutely false.

(3) Messiah Y'Shua sits on the Right Hand of YHVH, and thus YHVH sits
on the Right Hand of Y'Shua. (FALSE)
(4) YHVH is Divine, and thus all Divine beings are YHVH. (FALSE)

(5) G-d has a Spiritual IMAGE, and thus those with G-d's Spiritual IMAGE
are G-d. (FALSE)

Can anyone truly look upon the face

of
YHVH
and
live?

No!

Exodus 33:17-23 (Moses seeks to truly see YHVH)

17 YHVH said to Moses, "I will do this thing also that you have
spoken; for you have found favor (Grace) in my sight, and I know
you by name."
18 He (Moses) said, "Please show me your glory."
19 He (YHVH) said, "I will make all MY goodness pass before you
(Moses), and will proclaim the name of YHVH before you. I will be
gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will show mercy on
whom I will show mercy."
20 He (YHVH) said, "You cannot see my face, for man
may not see me and live."
21 YHVH also said, "Behold, there is a place by me, and you shall
stand on the rock.
22 It will happen, while my glory passes by, that I will put you in a
 cleft of the rock, and will cover you with my hand until I have
passed by;
23 then I will take away my hand, and you will see my back; but
my face shall not be seen."

Note: There are many instances in Scripture where translators

have written that some men (Jacob and Moses for example) have
seen YHVH "Face to Face," but these were figures of speech,
and not literal. Even Exodus chapter 33 (above) states that
Moses saw YHVH "Face to Face" nine verses before YHVH
states that no man may see my face and live. Therefore, the
figure of speech "Face to Face" is actually an
anthropomorphism that means to become Spiritually aware of
(Spiritually SEE / Heart to Heart) YHVH's True Righteous Nature.

Exodus 33:11
11 YHVH spoke to Moses "Face to Face," as a man speaks to his
friend (Heart to Heart). He turned again into the camp, but his servant
Joshua (Hebrew is Y'Shua), the son of Nun, a young man, didn't depart
out of the Tent.

Hopefully, I have made myself perfectly clear on this subject, but if not then
will someone please tell me how an infinite G-d can be contained in a finite
human body of flesh that as flesh is incapable of even looking upon YHVH's
face OR how is it that an immortal G-d can live in a mortal body without
that mortal body, also, being immortal and thus incapable of dying on the
cross.

And how is it that "No Man May Literally See The Creator's Face And
Live," and yet no man ever died from looking upon the face of Messiah
Y'Shua (or Jesus if you must). Could it be that Messiah Y'Shua was merely
perfected "In the Spiritual IMAGE of G-d?" Answer: Yes!
Read: SBC Doctrine

Little Children
Beware of Evil Masquerading as an "Angel of Light."

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