20100704_ITALY_AM_ENG_MORNINGWALK.mp3 rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: Where is Mahrja? rpda Mdhava Mahrja: Which Mahrja?

Brajantha dsa: Late Mahrja. rpda Mdhava Mahrja: Padmanbha. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: No. S r pad Nemi Mahrja: Sun hasn't come up yet. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: Why you are sitting there? You should come here. rpda Mdhava Mahrja: Nemi has (said) sun has not come up yet so Padmanbha is not coming. S r pad Nemi Mahrja: Ka comes then Lord Caitanya and then here is the cryas. So, each time cryas are coming and performing same pastimes after Lord Caitanya? Same, like same sequence of cryas? In every brahma Mahprabhu appears, Ka appears, once in a day of Brahm. After Mahprabhu so many cryas are coming. Every time the same cryas are coming? These pastimes are similar in? rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: In where is it written? S r pad Nemi Mahrja: No, I am asking you. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: Whether they will same comethey are not incarnation. So, I can not tell anywhereI have not seen it. Rmnuja will come or in (indistinct), or no Rmnuja, no Madhvcrya. What will be? S r pad Nemi Mahrja: And what about you Gurudeva? rpda Mdhava Mahrja: His question is like: after Mahprabhu came (others came like) (indistinct) hkura hkuraNarottama hkura, Bhaktivinoda hkura

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S r pad Nemi Mahrja: My Guru Mahrja, you Gurudeva rpda Mdhava Mahrja: All will come like this or there is some change? This is his main question. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: crya? rpda Mdhava Mahrja: Mahprabhu line S r pad Nemi Mahrja: Our crya; your crya. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: That is also not written anywhere. I have not read in Vivantha Cakravart hkura's explanation, in his books, anywhere. Brajantha dsa: But Nsihadeva will come. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: These are out questions. Brajantha dsa: Out of question. Out of question. Devotee: Oh, Gurudeva. In Jaiva-Dharma rla Bhaktivinoda hkura sometimes mentions names of Mahprabhu's associates (who were) not necessarily present in this ll when Mahprabhu came. So, from different kalpas or? Some names? rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: This is also not written anywhere. We can not say. Devotee: But is Mahprabhu always coming in the same (indistinct) Brajantha dsa: Yes, that is written. rpda Mdhava Mahrja: When Ka appeared, just after Him, in Kali-yuga, Mahprabhu will come. Devotee: Mah-bhgavata (indistinct) every time? Devotee: I've heard from many speakers that when the jvtm goes to brahma-syujya he can come back down but if he goes to I s vara syujya then the soul is Brajantha dsa: annihilated

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Devotee: finished, annihilated. But I have also heard from Bhagavad-gt that the soul can never be destroyed. So, I am confused on this point. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: In a special case any brahma-syujya may come. As Gopa-Kumara we see. He went there but not mixed. At once flew away from there. So, like this we canbut for others as you are telling. (rpda Mdhava Mahrja Hindi aside with rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja) rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: It may be. Who has come from I s vara syujya? Can you say? Devotee: Is I s vara syujya real or only imagination? (rpda Mdhava Mahrja Hindi aside with rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja) rpda Mdhava Mahrja: Not imagination. Then what will come there? I s vara syujya is more dangerous than brahma-syujya. Devotees aside: (because soul is annihilated). Devotee: Gurudeva, then they say that as long as the jva is not delivered Gurudeva comes again and again to deliver him. Brajantha dsa: Yes. Devotee: So, now our Gurudeva our mood here is (indistinct) and in the next life, or any other life, when Gurudeva comes back to deliver (does Gurudeva have) the same mood as Gurudeva because all different Gurus have different different moods toward Rdh-Ka. So, Gurudeva Brajantha dsa: rama Mahrjathis question was asked three days ago. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: What telling? rama Mahrja: He is saying that when Guru is coming back to deliver the disciple is it that same manifestation of Guru? Because different personalities will have some speciality of mood. Devotee: Yea, as Gurudeva his now mood so, with his mood is giving me something. This soul is not delivered in this life; in next life I am again born. So, Gurudeva comes always to deliver him

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until he comes back. So, my question is: is Gurudeva's manifestation the same mood or what? In the same mood he comes? rama Mahrja: So, he is saying, "Is it the same mood?" rla Gurudeva, he has explained that those Gurus who follow the line of rla Rpa Gosvm, rpnugas, then they have that same loving mood in serving r r Rdh-Ka. So, even though that same manifestation may not come, but as long as one is in that mood of serving rla Rpa Gosvm then that same mood will be rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: (to the devotee who asked the question) Are you satisfied? Brajantha dsa: with the answer rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: with the answer? Devotee: Yea. Mood of Gurudeva (is) what I say. Our Gurudeva is his mood, you know. rama Mahrja: But now Devotee: I am not delivered in this life. All can not be delivered in the same life. rama Mahrja: Mood meanswhat is the mood in serving in skhya, vtsalya, mdhurya, and specifically in (the) line of r Caitanya Mahprabhu (and) rla Rpa Gosvm those who are rpnugas. This is that mood. Now, if it is that specific personality who is coming, what rpda Mdhava Mahrja has said the other day, he said that if one is simple and by that simplicity they have attachment to a specific manifestation of guru tattva then that specific manifestation will come back for them. Devotee: OK. (Hindi aside) Devotee: What's the meaning of kma gyatr? rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: Who? Not in mass. Brajantha dsa: Private. In private. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: You should come after taking bath and then
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Brajantha dsa: In public don'tthis is not to be disclosed. You have taken dk? rpda Mdhava Mahrja: Yes. Yes (he has taken). Devotee: Gurudeva, in Jaiva-Dharma the Guru of Premadsa Mahaya Bbj served Nsihadeva. Why (did) he serve Nsihadeva (indistinct) Rdh-Ka. Devotees: (aside) Pradyumna Brahmacr. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: But his aim is Rdh-Ka. rpda Mdhava Mahrja: His aim is also Rdh-Ka (but) He is living in Devapall, where Nsihadeva, place of Nsihadeva. So, we have to give honor. Like we are doing bhajana of Rdh-Ka but we are also doing (the songs of Nsihadeva) but our (aim) is also Rdh-Ka. In the same way. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: Like (indistinct) svm. His rpa (guru?) said there was Nsihadeva but to make goal was Rdh-Ka prema. That is why he has done commentary on rmad Bhgavatam. We, so many persons, we do the japa of Nsihadeva only to vighnana. Brajantha dsa: To remove the obstacles. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: Understand? Only to vighna-na. But ultimate goal is Mahprabhu's line Rdh-Ka prema. Devotee: Is it bona fide if one of our, in our sanga, somebody has (a) iva ligam inside (the) temple room next to deities? rama Mahrja: And they worship as Gopvara Mahdeva. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: It may be separate anywhere. Brajantha dsa: Not in the same room. Separate room. rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: But not in the same temple. Like Girirja Govardhana. We can keep everywhere.

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Devotee: Brajantha prabhu, in Gti-guccha it mentions that Lord Nsihadeva removes spiritual obstacles; but what are the spiritual obstacles? Brajantha dsa: That is not a proper translation. Uh, Mahrja? rpda Mdhava Mahrja: Yes, spiritual obstacles like we have so many anarthas this is spiritual obstacles. This is the main thing. Brajantha dsa: Obstacles to move forward. rpda Mdhava Mahrja: ruci taste is not coming. All these obstacles. Devotee: But obstacles is not ligam. It should not go in the same altar. rpda Mdhava Mahrja: Not same room, same temple. Devotee: No, I mean same room. rpda Mdhava Mahrja: Not same room, same temple even. Not same room. Brajantha dsa: But outside the temple they have. Devotee: Outside temple they have. rpda Mdhava Mahrja: Who has? Devotee: But iva and the iva ligam is not different. Isnt it? And He is a vaiava you know. So, the vaiava crya even on the altar, they are all on the same altar, you know: Prabhupda, rla Gaurakiora Dsa Bbj, rla Bhaktisiddhnta Sarasvat, Brajantha dsa: So, why not Lord iva? Devotee: so, why not Lord iva? rpda Mdhava Mahrja: They are in our Guru parampar, Lord iva is not in our Guru parampar. But we respect Him more than any other Devotees: In Rpa-Santana mandir there is Gopvara Mahdeva. (indistinct)

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rla Nryaa Gosvm Mahrja: You are from what country? Devotee: Germany. Brajantha dsa: He is yogi.

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