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My daughter's 2007 Ford Ka has the heater only blowing hot air (very hot) problem. I have changed the heater control valve (twice - pattern part and now genuine Ford part) to try to fix this problem without success - The original HCV was faulty. When I measure the voltage at the HCV connector pin I get 12V continuous with ignition on at the feed side (black / purple wire) and the voltage pulses 12V - 7V every 4 - 6 seconds (green / black wire) with the heater control dial at mid position suggesting that the control panel signal to the HCV is ok. I have tested both HCV's (15-20 ohms) and I can see the valve operate when I put 12V across the valve electrical connector on both of them. I don't want to just throw new parts at it until I can correctly diagnose the problem. - Any ideas ? Submitted: 2 years ago. Category: UK Ford

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Expert: sean replied 2 years ago. Hello, I hope I can offer you some assistance. With the electrical connector disconnected from the heater valve, the dial set to fully cold and the engine running what reading do you get when you put a volt meter across pin 1 and 2 of the electrical connector? Let me know and I'll reply as soon as I'm able to. Thank you. Ask Your Own UK Ford Question

Customer: replied 2 years ago.

Hi Sean, With the engine running, dial set to fully cold I am getting 14V across the wiring connect plug pins.

Customer: replied 2 years ago.

Hi Sean, I have checked the voltage across the connector pins four or five times now. The first few times I got 13 - 14V with the dial set to cold, 8V with the dial set to hot and pulsing 13 - 7 V with the dial set halfway. However - on checking again,(now the engine is warm) I only got 8V with the dial set to cold, 3 - 4V with the dial set to hot and pulsing at 8 - 3V with the dial set at halfway. I have checked my meter and it is ok.

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Expert: sean replied 2 years ago. Hello again, sorry for the delay my computer kept going down. As the heater valve goes to hot this is the default position if there is an electrical fault in the circuit. You've fitted 2 heater valves and this hasn't cured the concern plus the resistances for the valves are OK and the valves move if you power them manually you can be sure the valve assembly is OK. The reading of 8 volts when set to cold would be enough for the valve to stay in the hot position. You need to do a volt drop test on the heater valve circuit when the fault is evident. When the fault is there and the engine is running with the heater set to cold connect 1 lead of the volt meter to the 12 volt supply to the heater valve (leaving the connector on the valve) and the other lead to battery positive. You should have a reading of less than 0.5 volts, any higher would indicate a fault in the positive side of the circuit. Then connect the multimeter lead to the switched side of the heater valve and the other lead to earth, again you should have less than 0.5 volts. I suspect when the fault is evident the reading on this will be higher as I suspect the heater panel is at fault. To check the panel you need to remove it, check for 7 volts at pin 1 of the connector when the engine is running (this is to let the panel see the engine is running) although if this were missing the valve is set to cold.. Check pin 2 for 12 volts and pin 12 for 12 volts, any low reading would point to a wiring fault. Check pin 6 for a good earth, less than 0.5 ohms resistance or volt drop the circuit which should be less than 0.5 volts (remember to leave the circuit all connected and switched on if you volt drop) if all the readings are correct then you will have to replace the heater control panel. Let me know if you need further assistance or clarification of anything and I'll reply as soon as I'm able to. Best wishes, Sean. Ask Your Own UK Ford Question

Customer: replied 2 years ago.

Hi Sean - sorry not to get back to you sooner. I have not yet done a volt drop test on the HCV circuit as I don't know hoe to connect the meter to the 12V supply with the connector still on the valve. I don't really want to break into the harness unless it is essential to do so. I have removed the heater control panel to check the pin voltage. Could you tell me how to identify pins 1, 2, 12 and 6 (ie wire colour position from top left corner of connector when connected to panel. Thanks in advance. Barry

Expert: sean replied 2 years ago. Hello again, I've just looked in to this more and it would appear that the pin designation has altered from the description above. The 12 volt feed is at pins 8 and 10. Pin10 should be black and green, this is the 12 volt supply from the heater valve. Pin 8 should be violet and orange and is a 12 volt ignition feed. Pin 2 is the earth and should be black and red. The engine run signal is pin 6 and should be white and black. Pins 1 to 6 are on the same side as the retaining tang of the connector, the connector or the panel normally have the pin numbers written on them. Sorry for the misunderstanding but the service instructions don't match the wiring diagrams. Let me know how you get on or if the wiring doesn't match and I'll look in to this further. Best wishes, Sean. Ask Your Own UK Ford Question

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Expert: sean replied 2 years ago. Hello again, just a little more information for you, pin 9 should be a 12 volt feed (orange and green) this is for the heated rear window but may power up the control panel internally. Best regards, Sean. Ask Your Own UK Ford Question

Customer: replied 2 years ago.

Hi Sean, Thanks for your email. I have checked the in voltage as advised - see below Pin 6 (white / black) = 7.3V Pin 8 (violet / orange = 14.7V Pin 10 (green / black) = 0V (zero - I think this is correct as it is the "pulsed earth) Pin 9 (orange / green) = 14.7V If you can confirm that pin 10 (green / black) is in fact the pulsed earth from the HCV then I think we are there and I need to get a new heater control panel. Many thanks Barry

Expert: sean replied 2 years ago. Hello again Barry, yes all the above readings are correct, pin 10 is the pulsed earth for the heater control valve. I hope this clarifies everything but let me know if you need further assistance. Best wishes, Sean.

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Customer: replied 2 years ago.

Sean, Many thanks for all your help. Have ordered a heater control panel and hopefully the problem should now be resolved. I have really appreciated your prompt and knowledgeable responses. Many thanks, Barry

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