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Okay. When I say yesterday, that merns, uh, February 12th, Tuesday okay?
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Sure. On 02/13t13 at approximately 0030 hours; I heard Officer Brown say over the radio to "send epergency cover." I responded to 2116 (Alston) Way, #514 to assist. I arrived on scene and entered the apartment. I observed uuiry large male, later iderrtified as (Moore) laying face down on top ofa mattress with officers struggling to control him. Officet Two, Badge #38, Officer Brown, Badge #16 and Officer B. Smitb number three, were controlling (Mooie);s arms and legs as he stuggled to break free from their
(ltdoore) was handcuffed and I assisted in contmlling (Moore)'s arms and preventing him from getting up. I remained v'/ith (Moore) - sorry, excuse me * while *uiting for BPD offtcer to bring a lvrap device for (Moore). Whiie
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disc.overed this, we immediately removed (Moore)'s hand;trs and taid him flat on his back. we began doing cPR on (Moore) until BFD arrived on scene, begau emergency teatment.' I remained o[ scene and contacted (Sterling). (Sterline) was inside the aparhnent wittr BPD officerc and (ltioorei dwing the initial incident. (Sterling) provided a witten statement about the incident. See attached written statement. had a puise. When
we were deployurg the wrap, (Moore) stopped struggling. we rolled (Moore) (Moore) on to his bft side. About a minute later, Offrcer (Brown) stated that, had stopped breathing. We checked for a pulse and noticed that he no longer
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The uh, building was already propped open by a door. Um, I basically arrivgd on scene the same time as Officer (U"ttiO and (Gardner) and uh, the tluee of us, took the elevator together.
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you observed? Uh, we observed a very large male uh, laying on what looked like a matfess io the comer of the aparhnent. Utr" he was layrng on his stomach and uh, "fr, (Smith). there was three officers in there. Officer (Brown), (Two) and Officer Um, it was apparent that they were strugglihg to confiol him and that he was
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Okay, like when you were saying that he tried to get - was he trying to - what - describe a little bit more in detail what he was doing as he was resisting even ihough he was in handcuffs. He um, I remember his legs were flailing around and he was trf ing to kick uh, offieers offof his legs. He was trying to basically stand back up it seemed like.
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I'm sorry. While he's uh, stomach down on the uh, mattress.
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Okay. [Jh, do you recall any oilrer officers arriving to it Officer (Mathis) doing? Do you recall? I believe he was tying to control (Moore)'s legs. Um...
Okay, what about Offlrcer (Gardner)?
I believe he was also hying to do the same thing, Okuy. All right. Um, at this point did any other officer anive to assist in addition - excluding the room. You guys are already there. Do you know who else anived at all?
I - I know uh, Sergeant (Phillips) and Sergeant (Cardoza) um, arrived shortly after but any other officers, I'm - I'm not aware of.
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He wasn't yelling at aily point? At that time, he was quiet when uh but he was physically resisting but at that time he wasnlt yelling anything? Correct. When youwere there? Okay, got it, Um - um, let's see. Did you, at all hear IVIr. (Moore) uh, while you were there with him ver- verbalize and say, I could - he - that he couldn't breathe or that he needed medical attention or that he
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Okay. Um, did uh, during the brief rnoment where uh,'Mr. (Moore) was still
struggling, did you hear any off,rcers commanding - making any verbal commands to uh, to Mr. (Moore) in any way? Telling him * giving him orders to calm down? Giving him orders to Stay still? What - whatever you can recollect.
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I do remember somebody saying to uh, calm down and stop resisting. I don't remember who exactly said that, but remember hearing that.
So he was placed on his side you said, correct?
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Okay, well how long was that time span berween the time he went calm to the time he started having diffrculty breathing? I estimate it at maybe a minute or so.
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Okay. And uh, did you yoruself notioe that he was having difficulty or did somebody - some offi.cer say something that prompted you to uh, notice as well?
No, well officer (Brown) said uh, I - something uh, to the effect of, "I think he's not breathing." At that point, I wasn't aware and uh, I tried to c,onfirm
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When we realized he wasn't breathing uh, and that he n6 lsnger had a pulse, we immediately took offhis - his handcuffs and uh, rolled him onto the floor,
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What part did you take in the un- in - in the removal of the handcuffs and roliing him onto his back? Do you recall?
Uh, I believe I was holding onto one of his wrists m&ing sure that um, ifhe was awake and - or if he did wake up, tllat he was not going to actively resist again and continue frghting so I believe I was controlling one of his wrists while we were taking the cuffs off.
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Before uh, taking the statement from Mr. Sterling, did you know who he was
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police arival but I was not awme of that until I had spoken to him.
Okay. And then you - andthen youtook a uh, statement from Mr. (Sterling),
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Okay. After you * the Statement you took from Mr, (Ster)- whore was the statement taken - where that location was?
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Okay. After you completed the statement from Mr. (Sterling), what did you doaftenvards?
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retrieve. Okay. And who's keys did you guys use to secure the apartment? I believe it was uh, M-r. (Hayes), (John Hayes).
How do you know Mr. (Hayes) ?
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Okay. Um, uh, while you were there while IvIr. (Moore) was in handcuffs and uh and all the - all divisions you told us already, did you at any point see any of the officers, including yourself stike Mr. (Moore) with uh, open hand or closed-closed fist?
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Did anybody use their uh, duty pistol to stuike Mr. (Moore) with?
No. Um, ttre - including - in addition to the officers you mentioned, how many which sergeants do you recall seeing on scene or in or around the property at the time of the incident?
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appear his face was actually on the mattress. When I say face
but to my recollection, there wasi a gap in between &e mattress and the wall and uh, I don't believe his face was actually directly pressed into the mathess. Cordd he I know you don't know whetherhe could breathe bw he - he appeared to have the ability to breathe based on his position that you
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Okay. It's 2205 hours. 2205 hours. End of interview with Officer Kastmiler.
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