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#eytalking 16/04/2013 thread : 'How do we define quality within the early years?

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1. EYTalking @EYTalking2h

Talking Childcare - newsletter - Talking Childcare #EYTalking sm2.spsend.com/speasapage.asp #EarlyYears #EYFS


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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@sarahjchapman @mac_phillips @EYTalking Both! And children are often easier! #EYTalking
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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable13h

@DeborahFielden @mac_phillips @eytalking Yes, to both children and new practitioners present. Positive role models needed by both #ETalking
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Kate Oakley @newtonoakley13h

@DeborahFielden @eytalking Such a lovely resource, I love the observations & quotes - clearly happy children & staff in quality environment.
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sarah chapman @sarahjchapman13h

@DeborahFielden @mac_phillips @EYTalking agree. thats why practitioner knowledge is very important. theory behind our reasoning! #EYTALKING
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Hannah McCrimmon @mac_phillips13h

@DeborahFielden @sarahjchapman @eytalking yes that's it too. As a community school word of mouth sells my philosophy too. #eytalking
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LittleDrama @LittleDrama_13h

@LisaJConstable @deborahfielden @mac_phillips @eytalking So important! A sad fact that negative role models are sometimes so influential.
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Kate Oakley @newtonoakley13h

National Children's Day UK on the 15th of May 2013 #EYTalking @ClareTickell @EYTalking @EYEearlyEd nationalchildrensdayuk.com
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Clare Hutton @Clare_twankey13h

@EYTalking Got EYP status, unsure what to do next, looking in to assessor training #ETalking"
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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable13h

@Clarelouisebod @laurachildcare @eytalking #ETalking Thanks all - where did that time go!

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Laura G @Gold_Lol13h

@LauraChildcare Thanks as always Laura #EYTalking


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Laura Henry @LauraChildcare13h

Sorry @EYTalking tweeps. Twitter will not lot me tweet from #EYTalking. Sent to many tweets in a short time! Can someone RT this for me?
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Lincs Montessori @LincsMont13h


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Thank you #EYtalking Great debate. please RT nationalchildrensdayuk.com


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Laura Henry @LauraChildcare13h

Thanks to everyone for connecting and sharing tonight! #EYTalking Great debate #Quality within the early years.
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Clare Bailey @Clarelouisebod13h

@LauraChildcare @EYTalking Thanks again, Laura & everyone else. Much to digest tonight. Here's to next time. #EYTalking
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Hannah McCrimmon @mac_phillips13h

Is anyone a practitioner in Chester or Cheshire West?! #EYTalking


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DTChildcareplus Ltd @dtchildcareplus13h

Thanks @LauraChildcare and everyone tonight on #EYTalking.


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Laura Henry @LauraChildcare13h

Thanks for the RTs.. will RT from @EYTalking later. Early Years rocks!!! #EYTalking
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Kathy Brodie @kathybrodie12h

@LauraChildcare #EYTalking Some great stuff this evening, loving the photos! Well done Laura :-)
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Clare Bailey @Clarelouisebod13h

Sad that depends on where you live in UK as to what kind of support you get. Impacts on quality in EY. #EYTalking
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Kate Oakley @newtonoakley13h

@ClareTickell If anything can spark a movement, it's Twitter. Why not declare a Children's Day? #EYTalking #childrensday
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@mac_phillips @sarahjchapman @EYTalking Do you think that's as you've gained confidence in presenting + justifying your practice? #EYTalking
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Kate Oakley @newtonoakley13h

@EYTalking Having a clear ethos that is shared by all stakeholders (staff, parents, trustees, etc.) and is evident in everything you do.
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Hannah McCrimmon @mac_phillips13h

@DeborahFielden @sarahjchapman @eytalking I've found parents listen more to me as I've progressed up the leadership ladder. Sad. #eytalking
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Jenny Barber @JenB11613h

@ChrisMalone48 yes sharing best practice & ideas #ETalking


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EYTalking @EYTalking13h

Hopefully the #NEYTCO group will be able to explore quality and sharing on a national level. #EYTalking
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Clare Hutton @Clare_twankey13h

"@DeborahFielden: @JenB116 Practitioners need their PSED looked after if we want quality environment! #EYTalking" YES!!
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Claire Lowery @clairewiththere13h

@LisaJConstable @gold_lol yes! It's crazy- twitter/blogs/Pinterest-bottomless pit of stuff to find out/learn/reflect! #EYTalking
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DTChildcareplus Ltd @dtchildcareplus13h

@sarahjchapman: @EYTalking Parents idea of quality may be different from the childs idea of quality! #EYTALKING involve parents!
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Laura G @Gold_Lol13h

@ChrisMalone48 Definitely - sharing best practice has always been important to me and hope it always will be #EYTalking
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Christine Malone @ChrisMalone4813h

#EYTalking most settings and childminders can offer good quality in something; quality shared from setting to setting is the way forwards...
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@mac_phillips @sarahjchapman @EYTalking Need to be confident, passionate+stick to principles when explaining practice to parents #EYTalking
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Jenny Barber @JenB11613h

@EYTalking @lisajconstable the one thing that will never change Mary Sheridan!
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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable13h

@Gold_Lol The more you learn the more you realise you never knew! #eytalking
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Claire Lowery @clairewiththere13h

Years ago I'd have said 'quality' was stimulating topics/environment- that's important but the quality is in the interactions #EYTalking
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Laura G @Gold_Lol13h

Important to remember that however good your practice maybe,that there is still always room to improve and learn #quality #EYTalking
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Kate Oakley @newtonoakley13h

@Gold_Lol #EYTalking Such an important aspect, going that extra mile for child, parent or practitioner who needs support to truly flourish!
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Sandra Brouet @earlyyearscpd13h


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Peter Moss is very good on the subject of quality in early years services ht.ly/k7Qgv #EYTalking
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Kate Oakley @newtonoakley13h

@mac_phillips Yes! Practitioners who can respond to children's needs & interests with enthusiasm and sensitivity. #EYTalking

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Lincs Montessori @LincsMont13h

@sarahjchapman #EYTalking Good point - loads of resources out there on 'Listening to children' re quality ncb.org.uk/media/74060/le
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Sandra Brouet @earlyyearscpd13h

Defining and measuring quality in early years settings - very good chapter in this book. ht.ly/k7Pos #EYTalking
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Jenny Barber @JenB11613h

@LisaJConstable @eytalking yes and too many out there who have a shaky child dev knowledge
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EYTalking @EYTalking13h

@JenB116 @LisaJConstable Oooh, my big issue. If you know your child development, blah, blah.. #EYTalking
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@mac_phillips @LisaJConstable @EYTalking Ah, that's lovely. Developmentally inappropriate expectations can be very damaging #EYTalking
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Hannah McCrimmon @mac_phillips13h

@sarahjchapman @eytalking I always make a huge fuss of stressing our beliefs (&love of mud) during home visits and new starter presentation!
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Jenny Barber @JenB11613h

@stbirwin definitely so confusing & frustrating especially when saying to do things EYFS categorically states not to do i.e checklists!
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sarah chapman @sarahjchapman13h

@mac_phillips @EYTalking yes! who are we educating? children or parents or both! :) #EYTALKING
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Claire Lowery @clairewiththere13h

@DeborahFielden True! Glad that access to supervision is now a requirement in new eyfs #EYTalking
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EYTalking @EYTalking13h

@tracyseed has asked a couple of colleagues from Sweden to speak about quality, etc at the next #NEYTCO meeting. #EYTalking
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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable13h

@EYTalking #eytalking Quality is present where practitioners are fully aware of child development norms and make provision for this
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Jenny Barber @JenB11613h

Needs to be a sense of we're all in this together #quality #ETalking


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EYTalking @EYTalking13h

Don't forgot if you provide a service to the sector to join #NEYTCO group on LinkedIN. #EYTalking
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sarah chapman @sarahjchapman13h

@EYTalking Parents idea of quality may be different from the childs idea of quality! #EYTALKING
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Hannah McCrimmon @mac_phillips13h

@sarahjchapman @eytalking some parents want 'bums on seats' most chn want bums anywhere but on a seat! Parents need re-educating too :)
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@LisaJConstable @EYTalking And a huuuuge smile spreads across your face :) #EYTalking
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EYTalking @EYTalking13h

@LisaJConstable I hear you! #EYTalking


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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@JenB116 Practitioners need their PSED looked after as well as the children if we want quality environment! #EYTalking
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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable13h

@EYTalking You don't just see, you feel it! #ETalking


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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable13h

@DeborahFielden @eytalking Absolutely - practitioners only know what the have had the opportunity to learn! #eytalking
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Hannah McCrimmon @mac_phillips13h

staff who have respect for one another & the chn. Adults who love to go with the flow and learn new things every day! #EYTalking
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Jenny Barber @JenB11613h

@EYTalking no observation, planning, inaccurate RAG rating, misinterpretation of characteristics of effective learning, affected everything!
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@LisaJConstable @EYTalking Most powerful way of learning I think, even better than inspirational speakers at conferences! #EYTalking
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Jenny Barber @JenB11613h

@DeborahFielden they are so frustrated & demoralised, I'm sprinkling my fairy dust to make things better! :) #EYTalking

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Christine Malone @ChrisMalone4813h

@JenB116 #EYTalking in some areas the best LA advisors are leaving because of job insecurity
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EYTalking @EYTalking13h

@LisaJConstable I agree as they say on x-factor. I have goose pimples! When you see a quality setting, truly amazing! #EYTalking
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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable13h

@EYTalking It's amazing what a visit to an outstanding setting can do for a practitioner. Opens their eyes to a new way of thinking
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Simona McKenzie @signoramac13h

@ChrisMalone48 Wonder how Ofsted will judge #agency quality when their inspection has no children present?
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EYTalking @EYTalking13h

@JenB116 is that about having clarity about their standards & vision for their setting? #EYTalking

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Laura G @Gold_Lol13h

@dtchildcareplus Agree - showing interest in the children's lives and families important too #EYTalking
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Jenny Barber @JenB11613h

working with a day nursery at the moment who have so badly advised by LA unbelievable, confidence knocked & quality compromised #EYTalking
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Christine Malone @ChrisMalone4813h

#EYTalking the most impressive quality could be where settings in the most challenging areas and circumstances are 'outstanding'
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DTChildcareplus Ltd @dtchildcareplus13h

#EYTalking A warm, positive relationship between practitioners and the children is a key part of quality. Children will thrive in it.
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Nichola Irwin @stbirwin13h

@LincsMont I think its very hard to measure, it permates through everything. #eytalking

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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@EYTalking Clips of high quality #EYFS practice to use for staff training and with parents #EYTalking teachersmedia.co.uk/search?f=501
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Jenny Barber @JenB11613h

@ChrisMalone48 no it has to come from within the setting intrinsic motivation & passion from practitioners #ETalking
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@Sallymaee @EYTalking Would love to hear more - very hard to overcome some barriers to effective approach but so important #EYTalking
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EYTalking @EYTalking13h

Staff to think about quality retail experiences - does it match your quality experiences Thus what you want in your setting. #EYTalking
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Nichola Irwin @stbirwin13h

SEF, typing in the dark!! #eytalking

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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable13h

@Gold_Lol Love it! As a parent, being asked how you are also goes a long way! #EYTalking
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Lincs Montessori @LincsMont13h

Controversial - but exploring quality, can we accept that it's subjective, culturally defined and not universally measurable? #EYTalking
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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable13h

@stbirwin @signoramac @chrismalone48 Totally agree - you need to have walked the walk before you can give the talk! #EYTalking
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Christine Malone @ChrisMalone4813h

@signoramac #EYTalking that is if there are LA teams remaining out there.......


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Nichola Irwin @stbirwin13h

@LincsMont @DeborahFielden @ChrisMalone48 SET's are so minimal now, compared to the ones a few years ago. #eytalking
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Jenny Barber @JenB11613h

An inspiring manager with a clear vision who leads by example will bring quality to the setting. #ETalking
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EYTalking @EYTalking13h

@Gold_Lol Yep, good customer care (parents/children) How do we get staff to understand customer care, links to quality? #EYTalking
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EYTalking @EYTalking13h

@Gold_Lol Love it!


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Laura G @Gold_Lol13h

Example of going above&beyond: dabbing clear nail polish on parent's tights this morning to prevent them from laddering!! # EYTalking
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@LisaJConstable @Sallymaee @EYTalking Exactly. PSED needs effectively identified and met has to be at the very core of provision #ETalking
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Sally Mae Taylor @Sallymaee13h

@EYTalking just done my dissertation on what makes an effective KP approach, a really interesting subject. Enhances quality!
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Lisa Houghton @LisaTalkingTots13h

Some lovely positive stuff on #EYTalking this evening.


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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@MarieAW40 @signoramac @ChrisMalone48 Agreed! Just as interviews for staff should include observation as well as interview #EYTalking
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EYTalking @EYTalking13h
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via @ncbtweets #NQIN ncb.org.uk/nqin #EYTalking


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Lincs Montessori @LincsMont13h

@stbirwin @DeborahFielden @ChrisMalone48 Mmm this poses questions about role of self evaluation if SEF itself is judged externally #EYtaling
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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable13h

@DeborahFielden @sallymaee @eytalking All greatly enhanced with an effective Key Person Approach consistently in place
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Marie Woodward @MarieAW4013h

@signoramac @chrismalone48 I think whoever inspects quality should observe it rather than rely on paper evidence!
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@Sallymaee @EYTalking Exactly - every person in the world has different needs, something I often point out! #EYTalking
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Clare Bailey @Clarelouisebod13h

@EYTalking So lucky in Stockport to have so many high quality #childminding settings. They work so hard for children & parents! #EYTalking
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Kate Oakley @newtonoakley14h

@EYTalking #EYTalking By the wellbeing & happiness of our children. By their curious questions about & enthusiasm for exploring the world .
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LittleDrama @LittleDrama_14h

@EYTalking A bright stimulating space, with dedicated staff who aren't afraid to get messy, play & engage with children on an equal level!
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ICT coordinator @smpsaict14h

@EYTalking #EYTalking Quality = enjoy + achieve but takes a lot of planning to get those.
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BInspired to Move @BInspiredtoMove13h

@stbirwin @EYTalking I agree, definitely quality CPD. If someone is confident in what they're doing it will be of a higher quality.
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ecrp.uiuc.edu/v7n1/walsh.html #EYTalking

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Sally Mae Taylor @Sallymaee13h

@DeborahFielden @EYTalking sometimes people think that only children with additional needs need support, all children have different needs
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Christine Malone @ChrisMalone4813h

@EYTalking #EYTalking and ITERS for under 3s ... we are now moving on from ECERS and ITERS to also use EEL and BEEL (Leuven scales)
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Lincs Montessori @LincsMont13h

@stbirwin @DeborahFielden @ChrisMalone48 Mmmm this poses questions about role self evaluation if the SEF itself is judged externally.
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden13h

@EYTalking 16 steps to achieving an outstanding EY Ofsted judgement, from Linda Thornton + Pat Brunton #EYTalking optimus-education.com/16-steps-achie
http://www. ving-outstanding-early -years -ofsted-judgement

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Simona McKenzie @signoramac13h

@stbirwin @ChrisMalone48 The recognition of quality can only come from knowledge and experience not ticking boxes at inspection!!

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EYTalking @EYTalking13h

Leadership for Quality in Early Years -Supporting Your Team to Achieve Better Outcomes for Children Garvey/ Lancaster #EYTalking
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Nichola Irwin @stbirwin14h

@DeborahFielden @ChrisMalone48 So how do we wnat our quality judged if we agree OFSTED not great? #eytalking
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Laura G @Gold_Lol14h

Going above and beyond what is "expected" #qualitysetting #EYTalking


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Jennie Johnson @KA_Jennie14h

@ChrisMalone48 no no no! see by vlog on this very subject m.youtube.com/watch?v=SKh03M "children not Ofsted should b at the centre of what we do"
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EYTalking @EYTalking14h

Assessing Quality in the Early Years: early childhood environment rating scale (ECERS-E) Sylva, Siraj-Blatchford & Taggart #EYTalking

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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable14h

@ChrisMalone48 Absolutely not! They set a general standard but variations in inspectors experience and views has an impact on inspections
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden14h

@stbirwin @ChrisMalone48 My experience too - had to do far too much justification of practice to someone who should know #EYTalking
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden14h

@Sallymaee @EYTalking Agreed - taking the curriculum to the child, not the child to the curriculum too, different for every child #EYTalking
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EYTalking @EYTalking14h
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See this discussion on @NurseryWorld LinkedIn page on Ofsted linkedin.com/groups/What-is #EYTalking


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Nichola Irwin @stbirwin14h

@ChrisMalone48 No some of the ones we have had never had experience of EY, very scary #eytalking

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EYTalking @EYTalking14h

@ChrisMalone48 Good question! No the shouldn't! #EYTalking


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Christine Malone @ChrisMalone4814h

#EYTalking should 'Ofsted be the sole arbitor of quality'???


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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden14h

@EYTalking "A Good Place to be Two - Developing quality environments indoors and out" FREE! #EYTalking communityplaythings.co.uk/learning-libra
http:/ /www. ry/training-resources/~/media/Files/CPUK/Library/Training%20Resource/A%20good%20pl a ce%20to%20be%20T wo.pdf

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EYTalking @EYTalking14h
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Research paper @Policy_Exchange policyexchange.org.uk/images/publica


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Marie Woodward @MarieAW4014h

#eytalking Strong leadership that empowers, supports, mentors, recognises achievements etc! Happy adults = Happy children! :)
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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable14h

#eytalking Open ended resources which provides opportunity for critical thinking should be in place
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Sally Mae Taylor @Sallymaee14h

@EYTalking supporting all children's different and additional needs.


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EYTalking @EYTalking14h

Quality Education in the Early Years by Lesley Abbott #EYTalking


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Sally Mae Taylor @Sallymaee14h

@EYTalking having a passionate team with shared visions and values.


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EYTalking @EYTalking14h

Ooh, loads of sharing tonight! The two week break done us good! #EYTalking
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Pat Townshend @pattownshend114h

@EYTalking it's about fostering and promoting their love of learning. This is the operating system for the rest of their successful lives
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Lincs Montessori @LincsMont14h

@EYTalking Absoultely - we think being values-based is key to quality, leadership and sustainability.
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Nichola Irwin @stbirwin14h

@EYTalking making sure your staff have quality CPD and mentoring. A clear shared vision. #eytalking
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EYTalking @EYTalking14h
http://www. earch/Early_Years_Quality_Full_report.pdf

Research document via @daycaretrust daycaretrust.org.uk/data/files/Res


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Christine Malone @ChrisMalone4814h

@EYTalking #EYTalking happy children and babies, well-cared for, and enjoying driving their own learning and development forwards
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Lisa J Constable @LisaJConstable14h

@EYTalking Where interaction not interference is the most natural thing #EYTalking
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EYTalking @EYTalking14h

@Clarelouisebod I still use this in training. The early years person that I am I made a set of jigsaw puzzles out of the wheel. #EYTalking
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Lesley Smith @lesley127814h

@DeborahFielden @EYTalking therefore the way we organise the environment is important to allow children the opportunity to discover
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden14h

@EYTalking "A good early years environment will always have a healthy amount of childgenerated messon any given day."Bryce Clegg #EYTalking
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Marie Woodward @MarieAW4014h

#eytalking Quality... Where do we start! A practitioner that is 'tuned in' to an individual child & families needs
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EYTalking @EYTalking14h

To me it is about your values. How do staff understand quality in practice? #EYTalking


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Clare Bailey @Clarelouisebod14h

@EYTalking By having high expectations & expecting everyone to fulfill them. #EYTalking
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Deborah Fielden @DeborahFielden14h

@EYTalking "Rather than just being the receivers, children should be the discoverers of their learning." Bryce Clegg #EYTalking
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Jennie Johnson @KA_Jennie14h

@EYTalking happiness!?true deep fulfilled happiness of children and team.....


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Lesley Smith @lesley127814h

@EYTalking well qualified staff AND (not or) low ratio of adults to children!
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Simona McKenzie @signoramac14h

@EYTalking Here we are ready to go!!! #EYTalking


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EYTalking @EYTalking14h

Good evening! 'How do we define quality within the early years?' #EYTalking
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