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Adjournment of them was my late colleague in the

Assembly Arthur Doherty, who never gave


Magilligan to Greencastle Car Ferry
up, and finally accomplished his dream of
[Tuesday, February 17, 2009] having the link that would bring new
Mr Deputy Speaker: The proposer of the prosperity to his beloved Magilligan and, of
topic will have 15 minutes in which to course, to the Inishowen Peninsula.
speak, and all other Members who speak What a shame it would be if, at this moment
will have approximately seven minutes. of unequalled challenge, that umbilical cord
Mr Dallat: I am grateful for the opportunity were to be cut. Once severed, I believe that
to have the Adjournment debate, and I it would be extremely difficult to put it
cannot emphasise enough the seriousness of together again, and years of hard work
the topic, namely the Greencastle to would be lost for a very long time.
Magilligan ferry service, which has been The bottom line is that the service needs
operating since 2002. Indeed, later this year, substantial subvention in order to operate in
if it is still operating, the service will have a way that allows it to meet its overheads,
carried two million passengers. Five years which have increased substantially. Those
ago, the ferry service was operating with a overheads include public liability insurance,
subvention of €156,000. which has risen tenfold, while the cost of
By December 2007, that had fallen to dry docking to comply with safety
€75,123, forcing the operators to increase a inspections is around £90,000. How that
single-journey fare from an initial £5 to £10. subvention is to be found is a challenge to
That had an immediate negative impact and both Governments. Although no one
resulted in a drop in the number of cars underestimates the financial difficulties that
carried from 90,866 in 2007 to 63,405 in the our Governments currently face, I do not
year that has just ended. believe that there is any choice but to
continue with the medium- and long-term
The Magilligan to Greencastle ferry service challenge of developing sustainable tourism
is an important part of the North Atlantic in one of the most beautiful parts of this
tourism corridor, which is the critical island, which is unequalled in history,
passage that links the Causeway Coast with culture and music, and is a critical part of
the north-west. The service is fundamental the tourist triangle that includes the west
to the development of sustainable tourism, coast of Scotland and the Scottish islands.
not just along the Causeway Coast, but to
Northern Ireland as a whole because it is, in I acknowledge that the ferry service has
effect, the bridge that enables international survived on small but greatly appreciated
tourists to enter Northern Ireland from north subventions from Limavady Borough
Donegal. Many visitors travel to Malin Council and from Donegal County Council.
Head, Glenveagh and other places of However, I believe that it is the duty of
interest, before making the crossing to the Governments to take responsibility for ferry
Causeway Coast, where the main attraction services, and, by and large, that is what
for international tourists is the Giant’s happens. Indeed, I know of no ferry service
Causeway and other tourism honeypots, in the North or South that is not subsidised,
such as the Bushmills distillery. and some to a degree much greater than that
which is needed in order to maintain the
Given the present economic crisis in the Magilligan to Greencastle service.
North and the South, it is unthinkable to
allow that ferry service to die at a time when The contract under which the service
the only growth industry that we have is operates runs out in June of this year. As yet,
tourism, which is expected to increase, for no provision has been made to resolve the
various reasons, over the next decade. The shortfall. The current operators have stated
ferry service is the product of people who publicly that they could not continue, and it
had the vision to see the bigger picture. One is difficult to see why any potential operator
would tender for a contract that is a money
loser. Indeed, I believe that it is fair to claim 2009.
that there would be no takers, which is why In other words, a crisis looms at a time when
I tabled this topic for debate. I have no tourism in the north-west cannot afford a
preference for who operates the service. I major setback. The area has already suffered
simply want to ensure that it continues. a disproportionate number of job losses on
At present, the authorities North and South both sides of the border, particularly in East
are fully aware of the issue. Our own Derry, where the Seagate closure alone cost
Minister for Regional Development has around 1,000 jobs.
been written to, and a meeting requested. I Given that the topic has now been aired in
have just been told that that meeting will both Stormont and Dáil Éireann, I hope that
take place next week. Indeed, I welcome the a way will be found to provide the
Minister, Conor Murphy, to the debate. subvention that is clearly needed to enable
7.00 pm the service to survive and prosper. A long-
term view of needs in around 10 years’ time
The Republic’s Finance Minister has been
is required. Malin Head may not be in the
asked whether he would directly facilitate a
same league as Land’s End or John
meeting with the Special EU Programmes
O’Groats — which is, perhaps, a good thing
Body. The North/South Ministerial Council
— however, it will develop to become a
has, equally, been made aware of the
major draw for international tourists.
matter’s urgency. In that respect, I accept
Likewise, the Causeway Coast will receive
that the North/South Ministerial Council has
major investment when the current
no direct function in the assessment of
economic recession is out of the way.
individual projects’ applications. However,
Investors will have learned to put their
that does not mean that it has no function at
money in long-term sustainable projects and
all. Its very name suggests that it has a
not the kind of speculative, high-risk
legitimate interest, given that this is a cross-
projects that have brought so much
border matter.
heartache in recent times.
Members will be aware that the Special EU
The development of waterways, which
Programmes Body is the managing authority
would bring tourists from the Shannon and
for the Peace III and INTERREG IVA EU-
the Erne along the Ulster Canal, and all the
funded cross-border programmes. The
way down the Lower Bann to the Causeway
INTERREG programme for 2007-2013 has
Coast, means that the Magilligan to
allocated indicative budgets to various
Greencastle ferry service will take on a
themes whose eligible area comprises
critical role in the movement of people
Northern Ireland, the South’s border
around the island of Ireland in numbers
counties and western Scotland. That
never before imagined.
includes a tourism theme that has an
allocation of €30 million and a rural Let us hope that the concerns expressed in
development theme that has an allocation of the debate by me and other Members will be
€10 million. taken seriously and that time will not run
out. In the darkest of times, the ferry service
Unfortunately, the tourism theme is
is one piece of positive evidence in the
currently closed for applications and most of
north-west that matters can move forward;
its budget has already been committed in
that we will not lie down and accept the
principle. I have been reliably informed that
situation, but will fight for a project that is
the rural development theme will be open
well worth maintaining. That is not just in
for applications later in 2009. That may
the interest of the current generation who
offer an opportunity for funding the
struggle to survive on tourism during one of
Magilligan to Greencastle ferry service.
the worst economic periods in history; we
However, I am concerned that none of that
must make every effort to ensure that a
is of any immediate value, given that, as I
future generation will have the confidence to
have said, the contract runs out in June
invest in tourism and thereby create
hundreds — indeed, thousands — of well- the part of people in Limavady. They have
paid, sustainable jobs in the only growth promoted the ferry service and put it in
industry in Northern Ireland. place with European aid and other
assistance. It is a tremendous project and its
We ask for the Assembly’s help and appeal
benefits are spread right across the north
to the Dublin Government to act
coast, far beyond Limavady.
immediately in unison with the Executive on
this most crucial issue. Limavady Borough Council has found that it
simply cannot sustain the level of
Mr Campbell: I rise to speak as a
investment in the ferry service that it made
constituency MLA in respect of the
previously. Therefore, the juncture that has
Adjournment topic. I congratulate the
been reached is not merely a T-junction, but
honourable Member for securing the topic
a cul-de-sac. One hopes that the Minister
for debate in the Assembly Chamber.
and others can establish whether there are
Mr Dallat rightly pointed out that the funding opportunities that could maintain
Greencastle to Magilligan ferry is a vital the ferry service.
lifeline. Operations between Northern
The service provides a lifeline. It is a tourist
Ireland and the Republic are too often
hotspot, and the numbers that Mr Dallat
assessed parochially as narrow projects that
outlined are very significant. Whichever
affect only a finite and small geographical
way the variation in the fuel price goes —
area. It would be completely wrong to view
whether it is cheaper in Northern Ireland or
the lifeline of the ferry service in that way.
cheaper in the Republic — there will be a
People who know the topography of the two-way flow of traffic as people avail
ferry landing point on the Northern Ireland themselves of cheaper fuel.
side at Magilligan know that the approach
A land journey of one hour and 10 minutes
road brings vehicle drivers along a narrow
will have to be negotiated if the 15-minute
B-class road. That road goes past the prison
ferry service is not maintained. I hope that
and brings drivers to a T-junction.
the Minister will explore all the possible
Mr Dallat referred to Limavady Borough ways of sustaining the service for the greater
Council putting forward an amount of good of all the people of the north coast and
money. This is the month of the striking of beyond. I know of many people from
rates, and, unfortunately, Limavady is at the Donegal and further south who have come
upper end of the rates spectrum. I am sure across on the ferry to spend several days in
that Limavady Borough Council would various parts of Northern Ireland. Everyone
argue that it has put very significant moneys wins when the ferry service is in operation.
— hundreds of thousands of pounds — into Unfortunately, if a way of sustaining the
the ferry service over a number of years. service cannot be found, everyone will lose.
I hope that the Minister will take the Mr Brolly: Go raibh maith agat, a
following point into account. A significant LeasCheann Comhairle. I was involved in
number — between 65% and 80% — of the development of the ferry service from
motorists coming from the Republic to the very beginning. I was a member of the
Northern Ireland turn left rather than right Limavady-Donegal steering committee
when they reach the T-junction to which I during the construction of the slipway at
referred. A left turn takes those motorists to Magilligan and the awarding of the tender to
the Causeway Coast, Bushmills and the Mr Jim McClenaghan of the Lough Foyle
tourist spots. Ferry Company. Therefore, I have a
However, a right turn would take them to particular interest in this matter. Indeed, I
the town of the council that spends the have a much wider interest in the entire
money to support the ferry service in the Magilligan area.
first place. Therefore, there is As John Dallat said, it is definitely one of
understandably a degree of indignation on the most beautiful parts of Ireland, yet it has
been allowed to remain a desert. Why are an officer from Limavady Borough Council
people not inclined to turn right to visit asked officials from Donegal about sharing
Limavady? There are hundreds of acres security costs. There was a stunned silence
available to develop, sensitively, the area in the room, particularly among the Donegal
where the ferry lands at the slipway and representatives. When one official
where one can take the 10-minute journey eventually got his breath back, he asked
from Greencastle to Magilligan. Binevenagh what that meant and was told that security
— one of the most remarkable mountains was essential. The Donegal representatives
one will ever see — looks down on that said that they were not interested in security
area, which is the greatest strand in Ireland, and would not build a security zone or
with miles of beautiful golden sand. employ security staff in Greencastle.
Furthermore, Lough Foyle is ideal for water However, security measures were
sports. introduced on the Limavady side.
As Gregory Campbell said, anyone who Therefore, there is a prison, a Ministry of
turns right towards Limavady or anywhere Defence firing range and a beautiful security
else will — in one of the most beautiful zone at the slipway. People must drive into
parts of Ireland — pass the prison and, a few high cages, but, if they arrive too early, they
metres further along, a British Army firing cannot drive in. Moreover, if someone
range. When a decision was being made to drives in, it impossible to get out again, and
build the new prison, I worked as hard as cars are searched. Limavady Borough
possible to prevent it from being situated in Council wants to save some money. It can
Magilligan. I spoke passionately to Paul save £80,000 by removing that security
Goggins — obviously, not passionately zone. Such a measure will enhance — at
enough — and, although he understood my least to some extent — the chances of the
argument, the decision was, unfortunately, ferry remaining viable.
based on economics rather than sense or the I urge the House and people from the area to
potential despoliation of a beautiful area, visit Magilligan. They will believe what I
and the decision was taken to build a prison. am saying. It is too precious, and we have
At that time, I dealt with people in little else except tourist attractions. We have
Magilligan who had expertise in no oil, gold, coal or natural resources other
landscaping, and so on. One person than the beauty of the countryside. People
generously offered to provide a landscape of might ask why the north-west is not
the entire area. The next time I meet Mr thriving, has not thriven and has been
Goggins, I might show him that landscape. neglected; we have caused it.
Unfortunately, in the meantime, Mr Goggins We have not recognised what we have, and
announced that he will build a beautiful what we could have. Go to the south-west of
prison in beautiful Magilligan. I am sure that Ireland — they have made rocks into a
Jim McClenaghan from the Lough Foyle fortune. Places like Killarney do not
Ferry Company considered what people compare with Magilligan. I am asking that
from Greencastle and Donegal see when we all wake up —
they look across the lough: they see a
wasteland. People on the Magilligan side Mr G Robinson: I remind the Member that
who look across to Greencastle see fishing the prison has created around 350 jobs.
boats, a harbour, a lovely village and a Given the effects of the economic downturn
famous seafood restaurant. It is a lovely in the Limavady area, particularly with the
place. There is nothing on the Magilligan closure of Seagate, those jobs are very
side to invite people. welcome for both sides of the community.
When negotiations on the development of Mr Brolly: I appreciate what the Member
the ferry were almost finished, the tender has said, but if we are going to have some
had already been awarded to Mr kind of greater vision, surely we can do
McClenaghan. At a meeting in Greencastle, better than providing jobs for prison officers
in one of the most beautiful parts of Ireland. reduction in tourism and trade between
I think that we can do much better. There Donegal and Northern Ireland.
could be a championship golf course to link Of course, people are suffering from the
up with golf courses along the north-west economic downturn on both sides of the
and in Donegal. There could be water sports, border. The ferry represents not only a flow
or a marina — there could be anything. of people, but a flow of money between the
Anything is possible in Magilligan. two jurisdictions. With the strong euro and
7.15 pm cheaper consumer opportunities in Northern
Ireland, we are currently at an advantage in
Earlier today a Member was complaining
attracting tourists and shoppers to
about how Newcastle could not attain a blue
Magilligan and the north-east of the
flag because of pollution, and how Dundrum
Province. Equally, a joint report from
Bay was polluted. There is no pollution in
Queen’s University and University College
Magilligan and, since we are starting from
Dublin in 2006 found that the impact on
scratch, we can make sure when it is
tourism in Greencastle has resulted in a
developed that there will be no pollution.
marked increase in the number of providers
Although I appreciate that the prison with
servicing tourism there.
250 jobs is a holding operation, and that
some of the local shops may sell an extra 40 The Northern Ireland Executive and the
cigarettes a week, it is time to open up our Government of the Republic of Ireland must
eyes and look beyond that. Go raibh míle come together to save the service. Without
maith agat. the subvention of an estimated €300,000, the
service will close in June. The Governments
Mr McClarty: My understanding was that
must not look upon saving the service as an
the Adjournment debate was about the
added cost. We recognise that this is a time
Magilligan to Greencastle car ferry service,
of great fiscal constraint, but saving the
and apparently not about Magilligan prison,
Magilligan to Greencastle car ferry service,
which could be the subject of another
rather than being an added cost, would be an
debate, because it has huge benefits for the
investment that would result in continued
entire East Londonderry constituency and
returns in tourism and trade on both sides of
beyond.
the border.
Very seldom in the Chamber is there
To oversee the closure of the service would
unanimity — sometimes there is grudging
be short-sighted and would not represent
unanimity, but on the subject of the
sustainable management of both our
Magilligan to Greencastle car ferry I think
economies in the current economic crisis.
that there is unqualified unanimity as to the
benefits that it provides, not only to the I thank John Dallat for raising this
constituency itself, but much further Adjournment topic. I fully support him and
beyond. all my colleagues who have contributed to
the debate.
As has been pointed out, the service was
launched in 2002 with European structural Mr G Robinson: I declare an interest as a
funds, and was designed to promote cross- member of Limavady Borough Council.
border travel, tourism and trade. In all those I am pleased to contribute to this debate, as
respects, it has been a remarkable success Limavady Borough Council has supported
story. The service recorded its one millionth the Magilligan to Greencastle ferry transport
passenger in 2005, and every year since has link since 2002-03 with grants totalling
carried around a quarter of a million more than £800,000. In this financial year, it
passengers. However, the Government of has supported the ferry with a projected
the Republic of Ireland, and ultimately the grant of £133,000. The Council’s financial
Northern Ireland Executive, are in danger of backing for the ferry is, therefore, beyond
neglecting the service, which will result in question. Costs include provision for
its closure, wasted investment, and a marked security, staff, energy, rent and rates,
insurance and other costs. whether there is anything that his
Department can do to help maintain the
My personal commitment to this unique
venture, and that he will have discussions
transport link in the north-west is as strong
with his counterpart in the Republic in order
as the council’s. I also recognise the difficult
to determine whether a joint effort can be
economic climate in which everyone, every
made to protect this tourism gem.
business and every Assembly Minister has
to operate. This difficult economic climate I wish to make one other point. Mr Brolly
also affects the Magilligan to Greencastle mentioned security. Security arrangements
ferry. I must also remind Members that are sanctioned by the Department for
Limavady Borough Council has no spare Transport in London and are enshrined in
capacity in its budget, beyond its existing European legislation. We in Limavady
commitments, as expenditure has had to be cannot get out of that.
cut to the bone in order to prevent higher Mr Brolly: We have been examining this
than necessary rises in the rates bills. issue for six months now, and, in fact, the
Having framed my comments in that ferry operator has been told that had a
context, I wish to explore ways in which to certain officer been present when the chief
diminish the drain on the public purse, while executive of Limavady Borough Council
retaining the ferry service. The development asked about the need for security at
report of 2006 showed that 63% of those Magilligan, he would have said that there
who used the ferry did so as part of a leisure was no need for it. There is no need for
outing; 41% of whom used it on day trips. security at a slipway. Security is only
That indicated that the main users of the needed at ports. There is not even a place to
ferry were using it as a tourist facility. The tie up a boat at Magilligan; it is just a
other notable figures in the report showed slipway. There is no need for security, and a
that 23% of users were travelling to visit decision will probably be made about that
friends and families, or going to and from soon.
work in the area. It is therefore essential that The Minister for Regional Development
we do not overlook the home market for the (Mr Murphy): Go raibh maith agat, a
ferry service. LeasCheann Comhairle. I welcome the
As that is the case, the council is involved in debate, and thank the member who secured
a project that will, perhaps, highlight the it and all those who have contributed to it.
ferry service to a higher level, in tourist I understand the importance of the
literature, local papers and local radio. I also Magilligan to Greencastle ferry service to
believe that the respective tourist boards the people who live in the north-west, and I
could aid awareness of the ferry service by am very aware that there is real concern that
including some higher profiling in their the ferry will be unable to continue its
jurisdictions. Such measures would not be operation. I am conscious of the role that the
intensely expensive and would represent the ferry has played in tourism, and I am aware
value-for-money principle that all Members of the role that the service has played in
have agreed must be applied to all bringing communities together. `
departmental spending.
This adjournment debate has been helpful in
This debate is a great way of highlighting bringing about a better understanding of the
the novel means that we in the north-west issues involved. As Members said, the
have of getting around. I believe that the Magilligan to Greencastle ferry has been in
loss of the ferry service would be operation since 2002 as a commercial
detrimental, not only the local people, but to venture that the Lough Foyle Ferry
the development of our tourist market. The Company provides under joint contract with
ferry is an essential part of the tourism the local councils in Limavady and Donegal.
infrastructure of the north-west and has the
potential for growth. I hope that the Minister Funding for its establishment was provided
for Regional Development will consider by the Special EU Programmes Body’s
Peace and Reconciliation Programme, the which is a reserved matter. Under the
International Fund for Ireland, Limavady Harbours Act 1970, my Department can
Borough Council and Donegal County make grants, or give loans, to harbour
Council. My Department has played no authorities. Although those powers are quite
direct role in the ferry service. wide-ranging, they restrict such support to
what are described as “harbour purposes”.
It may help if I were to start by explaining
The powers cannot be used to provide direct
my Department’s role with regard to ferry
support for shipping.
services and shipping in general. I do not
want there to be any misunderstanding about I should point out that where those powers
the powers that are available to the have been used, it has been the policy of the
Department for Regional Development. As Department not to subsidise harbour
the Minister for that Department, I have authorities. The Department has used those
responsibility for road ferry services in the powers within the past few weeks in the
North, of which there are two: the north-west. My Department recently
Strangford Lough ferry service, which provided Derry’s Port and Harbour
operates between Strangford and Portaferry; Commissioners with a loan to enable it to
and the Rathlin Island ferry, which operates invest £2·2 million in a new dredger for use
between Rathlin and Ballycastle. in Lough Foyle. There is no subsidy
involved, and the loan is provided at a
The Strangford Lough ferry service is
commercial rate and is fully repayable to the
directly provided by Roads Service, and it is
Department.
particularly important to the people who live
in the upper Ards area, because it gives them Setting those issues aside, I also need to be
better access to schools, hospitals and other conscious of the financial pressures on the
services that they would not otherwise have. Executive in general and on my Department
in particular. The Strangford Lough ferry
Rathlin Island Ferry Limited provides the
service has an operating cost of
Rathlin ferry under contract. The service
approximately £1·5 million to £1·8 million a
provides a lifeline to the people of Rathlin
year. A new support vessel, which will cost
Island and is essential for the survival of that
some £4 million, will also be required in the
island community.
next few years. The Rathlin ferry service
The Department’s powers with regard to will require a subsidy of approximately
ferry services are contained in the Roads £600,000 in the coming year.
Order 1993. Those powers enable the
I have received representations from
Department to provide and to support road
Members about the conditions of the roads
ferry services. However, in the 1993 Order,
across the North, and I have made it clear on
“road ferry service” has a particular
many occasions that my Department’s
definition. It is, in effect, a service for
programmes are under-resourced. The needs
conveying vehicles by boat from a road,
of the Magilligan to Greencastle ferry must
across the water, to another road. In the
be considered in that context.
context of the Order, the word “road” also
has a particular meaning. It is defined as a The question over the costs involved in
public road that the Department maintains. meeting the security regime required by the
Department of Transport’s transport security
Having considered the legislation, the
and contingencies team (TRANSEC) was a
Department is of the view that the powers to
matter of dispute among some Members.
provide support for road ferry services do
Maritime security is a reserved matter, and
not extend to the ferry service across Lough
that body is responsible, in effect, for
Foyle, because it conveys vehicles from one
implementing Regulation (EC) No
jurisdiction to another.
725/2004, which deals with enhancing ship
As the Minister for Regional Development, and port facilities’ security.
I have responsibility for ports and harbours,
I understand that the cost involved in
but I do not have responsibility for shipping,
meeting TRANSEC’s requirements amount it had not addressed that sort of issue
to approximately £90,000 a year. Limavady previously.
Borough Council currently meets those However, as I have already stated, I am
costs, but it has indicated that it intends to willing to help facilitate — in whatever way
pass them onto the operator. The costs stem possible — the examination of all options
from the fact that the Magilligan to that might reduce the risk to the operation of
Greencastle ferry service is a cross-border that important cross-border transport link. I
route, which means that the terminal facility am willing to engage with the NIO and the
at Magilligan Point is subject to a security British Department for Transport about any
requirement of a particular level, which is reserved matters of security and shipping,
set by the Department of Transport in and with Limavady Borough Council and
London. Obviously, there are further Donegal County Council about finding
question marks over that, and I am happy to solutions to this matter. Although shipping
explore the matter. does not fall within the remit of the NSMC
I have pointed out that my Department has meeting in transport sectoral format, I will
limitations in dealing with the Magilligan to meet Minister Dempsey in the NSMC in the
Greencastle ferry, because it does not have a near future. I will take that opportunity to
specific statutory responsibility for it. More raise the issue with him.
generally, it is disappointing that no part of I also feel that the ferry service promotes
Government seems to have a specific role in tourism. I think that most of the people who
dealing with that service. However, as I said spoke agreed that it was very important for
at the outset, I recognise the importance of tourism in the northern region of the island.
the ferry service in the local area. It also promotes business, and it moves
Despite the limitations of my Department, workers, goods and people. Therefore, I will
there is — at the very least — a need for also consult with my Executive colleague in
interested parties to more fully explore the Department of Enterprise, Trade and
whether any options are available that may Investment, Minister Foster.
help the service. I would be happy to be Even with the legislative limitations that
involved in that process with my apply to my Department in relation to this
Department. issue, it is incumbent on us all to try to
7.30 pm explore — with all of the interested parties
— what avenues may be open to us to
I have already received approaches from
ensure that that ferry service continues to
Members asking me to meet constituents,
operate. It is important that the service
and I have agreed to those requests.
continues to be a feature of life in the north-
Building on the information that has been
west. I certainly hope that we will play our
gained in this debate, I want to explore the
part in doing that by engaging with others
issues more fully at those meetings and
who have a responsibility or role in that
evaluate whether assistance may be
matter. Go raibh maith agat, a LeasCheann
possible.
Comhairle.
It has been suggested that this issue should
Adjourned at 7.32 pm.
be added to the agenda of the North/South
Ministerial Council (NSMC). As has been
mentioned, I understand that it was one of
the points that was discussed during a recent
Adjournment debate in the Dáil. The
Official Report shows that Noel Ahern, the
Minister of State at the Department of
Transport, answered the debate. He pointed
out that shipping services do not fall within
the remit of the North/South body, and that

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