Umar Killed Fatima From Sunni Sources

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The abuse and oppression of a pregnant Lady Fatima at the hands of Umar, as confessed by Ibn Abi
Darim
Argument:
In the book Mizan al-Itidal, Allama Sham sul-Deen Dhahabi brands Ibn Abi Darim as a Rafidhi. Dhahabi
claims that despite the staunch convictions of Darim, he nonetheless slandered the Shaikhin(Abu Bakr
and Umar) during the latter stages of his life, hence dismissing him as a valid narrator.
Analysis
The original narration:
Alama Sham sul-Deen Dhahabi in Siyar a`lam al-nubala' and Mizan al-'Itidal and Ibn Hajar Asqalani in
Lisan al-Mizan narrated from Ibn Abi Darim:
.

Umar kicked Hazhrat Fatima, causing the miscarriage of her unborn baby, Muhsin.
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1991 : - : :
Al Thahabi Shams Al Deen Muhammad Bin Ahmad Bin Uthmaan (died 748 H), book: Meezaan Al Itadaal
fi Naqd Al Rijaal (The Scale of Moderation in Criticizing The Men of Narration), volume 1, page 283,
investigated by Sheikh Ali Muhammad Muawwad and Sheikh Aadel Ahmad Abdul Mawjood, publisher:
Daar Al Kutub Al Ilmiyya, Beirut, first edition, 1995;
: 187 11 )847 (
1412 : - :
Al Thahabi, Shams Al Deen Muhammad Bin Ahmad Bin Uthmaan (died 748 H), book: Siyar Alaam Al
Nubalaa (The Lives of the Knowledgeable Nobles), volume 15, page 578, investigated by Shuayb Al
Arnaaoot, Muhammad Naeem Al Aariqsoosi, publisher: Muassasat Al Risaala (The Message
Foundation), Beirut, ninth edition, 1413 H;
: 367 1 ) 713 (
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Al Asqalaani Al Shaafii, Ahmad Bin Ali Bin Hijr Abu Al Fadil (died 852 H), Lisaan Al Meezaan (The Scales
Tongue), volume 1, page 268, investigated by Al Maarifa Al Nithaamiyya Center, India, publisher:
Muassasat Al Alami Lilmatbooaat (Al Alami Foundation for Print), Beirut, third edition, 1406 H (1986
AD);
Dhahabi, Mizan al-'Itidal fi Naqd al-Rijal, Volume 1, Page 283
Dhahabi, Siyar a`lam al-nubala', Volume 15, Page 578
Ibn Hajar Asqalani, Lisan al-Mizan, Volume 1, Page 268
However, as already mentioned, Dhahabi and Ibn Hajjar have rejected this notion on grounds of its
source, Ibn Abi Darim.
...

.
During the end of his life, Darim made an effort to shed light on the numerous flaws and misgivings of
the Shaikhin. I was in his presence during which I witnessed a man telling him, Umar kicked Lady
Fatima, causing the miscarriage of Muhsin.
By analyzing the scholarly reputation and character of Ibn Abi Darim, one will come to understand that
the only reason for his rejection by the Ahl Sunna is in regards to this hadith. As a matter of fact, prior
to this hadith, he was considered as one of the most knowledgeable ulama of the Ahl Sunna. Dhahabi
described him as a leader(Imam), memorizer(Hafiz), and an erudite(Fadhil).
.
....
Ibn Abi Daarim. The virtuous memorizer imam, Abu Bakr Ahmad Bin Muhammad Al Sirriy Bin Yahyaa Bin
Al Sirriy Bin Abi Daarim
He continues as:
.
His knowledge and character were exceptional, but he was attached to Shiaism.
And he also says:
.
Muhammad bin Hammaad Al Haafith said: In his lifetime he was firm in his beliefs.
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Nubalaa (The Lives of the Knowledgeable Nobles), volume 15, page 577-579, investigated by Shuayb Al
Foundation), Beirut, ninth edition, 1413 H.
In a hadith linked to Ibn Abi Darim, the Holy Prophet (PBUH&HF) says:
.
.
The border between Halal and Haram is clear, but between them, people face many doubts and
unknowns. Whoever forsakes these doubts has saved his religion and beliefs, and whoever embraces
them has committed sin, similar to an individual in the company of an ill person.
Dhahabi, after narrating this Hadith, says:

. .
This Hadith is reliable and agreed upon.
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Having said this, interestingly, then Dhahabi makes the following disparaging remarks about Darim:
.
A misguided old man!
Hence, is it possible for someone labeled as Leader, memorizer, and scholar, who has maintained a
firm belief during his entire life, to be also classified as misguided and evil?
How can such contrasting words be applied to the same person?
Yes, exaggeration of the merits of the Khalifahs will cause a prominent figure of Ahl Sunnah, such as
Dhahabi, to contradict himself.
Therefore, we should ask:
Is it valid to reject the narrations of an individual because he is a Rafidhi?
What type of logic gives us the permission to reject someone simply because of his inclination to
Shiaism? If such is the standard, then Ahl Sunna need to dismiss many hadiths in Siha Sitta (the six
hadith books) as they contain numerous hadiths from Rafidhis. InshaAllah, we will mention a few
examples:
1. AbiduAllah bin Musa:
Dhahabi says about him:

.
Ibn Manda said: Ahmad bin Hanbal would welcome people to his premises, as he was a well-known
Rafidhi, but he did not allow anyone by the name of Muawia to enter his residence.
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He continues to write:
.
His Hadiths are present in the books of Siha Sitta
Mezi, the author of Tahzib al-kamal, states that all the books of Siha Sitta contain hadiths from Hanbal:
.
() () (:
....) ()
Ubaid Allah Bin Musaa bin Abi Al Mukhtaar, and his name Baathaam Al Ubaisi, Their Chief Abu
Muhammad Al Koofi.
Narrated according to: Ibraaheem Bin Ismaaeel Bin Majmaa (in Qazwini), ans Usaama Bin Zaid Al Laithiy
(in Muslim), and Israaeel Bin Yunis (in Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmithi, and Nisai), and Ismaaeel Bin Abi
Khaalid ()
. 164 19 )843 (
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Al Mazi, Yusuf Bin Al Zaki Abdul Rahmaan Abu Al Hijaaj (died 742 H), book: Tahtheeb Al Kamaal, Volume
19, page 164. Investigated by Dr. Bashaar Awaad Maaroof, publisher: Muassasat Al Risaala (The
Message Foundation), Beirut, first edition, 1400 H (1980 AD).

. () = () = () = () = () = .
Each code between brackets represents the name of the authors of the Siha Sitta:
( = )Bukhari
( = )Muslim
( = )Ibn Majah Qazwini
( = )Trimidhi
( = )Nisai
2. Jafar bin Sulaiman al-Dhabi:
The scholars of Ahl sunna view him as a Rafidhi as well. Khatib Baqdadi narrates from Zaid bin Zari who
said:
.
Jafar bin sulaiman was a Rafidhi.
164 1 )462 (
. - : 3931
Al Baghdaadi, Ahmad Bin Ali Abu Bark Al Khateeb (died 463 H), book: Taareekh Baghdaad (The History of
Baghdaad), volume 5, page 164, in the footnote of Ahmad Bin Al Miqdaam Bin Sulaimaans translation,
no. 2925, publisher: Daar Al Kutub Al Ilmiyya, Beirut.
Mezi states that Bukhari (in Al-Adaabul Mufrad) and the other authors of Siha (meaning Muslim, Abu
Dawood, Tirimidhi, NisaI and Ibn Majah) have narrated hadiths from this person.
. ""
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5, page 50. Investigated by Dr. Bashaar Awaad Maaroof, publisher: Muassasat Al Risaala (The Message
Foundation), Beirut, first edition, 1400 H (1980 AD).
3. Abdul al-Mulk bin Ain al-Kufi:
His narrations are also present in all the books of Siha Sitta of Ahl sunna. Mezi narrates from Sufyan that
he was a Rafidhi as well:
. :
He continues to say:
: :
:
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Rafidhi hadiths are so widespread in the Siha Sitta, that Ahl Sunna scholars concede their removal from
these books will cause an immense void of knowledge.
Khatib Baqdadi says:
:

If you ignore the people of Basra due to them being Qadri, and if you ignore the people of Kufa because
of their Shia beliefs, then you have destroyed all the books.
In expounding upon this fact, Ali bin al-Madini states:
. :
The destruction of all the books is equivalent to the rejection of all the hadiths.
: 139 1 ) 462 (
. - :
Al Baghdaadi, Ahmad Bin Ali Abu Bakr Al Khateeb (died 463 H), book: AL Kifaaya fi Ilm Al Riyaaya (The
Beneficence in the Science of Narration), volume 1, page 129, investigated by Abu Abdullah Al Soorqiy,
Ibrahim Hamdiy Al Madaniy, publisher: Al Maktaba Al Ilmiyya (The Scientific Library), Al Madina Al
Munawwara, Saudi Arabia.
He continues:
:
: :
.
When asked about Fadhl bin Muhammad Sharani, he stated, His narrations are sincere, but his
weakness is in glorification of Shiaism. Someone said to him, You have narrated a hadith from him in a
Sahih (book). He replied, The book of my teacher is full of narrations by Shias (meaning the Sahih
Muslim book).
: 121 1 ) 462 (
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Al Baghdaadi, Ahmad Bin Ali Abu Bakr Al Khateeb (died 463 H), book: AL Kifaaya fi Ilm Al Riyaaya (The
Beneficence in the Science of Narration), volume 1, page 131, investigated by Abu Abdullah Al Soorqiy,
Ibrahim Hamdiy Al Madaniy, publisher: Al Maktaba Al Ilmiyya (The Scientific Library), Al Madina Al
Munawwara, Saudi Arabia.
Is it acceptable to reject a narrator due to his reliance to Shiaism?
Ahl Sunna scholars may claim that simply being Shia is not a valid reason for the dismissal of a narrator,
rather the excessive need to refer to Shiaism is grounds for dismissal. For example, the elevation of
Imam Alis status above that of Abu Bakr and Umar is an example of this.
This is how Ibn Hajar explains this in Fathul Bari:

.
To be a Shia, means to love Ali and to place him on a pedestal above all other companions; hence if
anyone considers Ali higher in status than Abu Bakr and Umar, this Rafidhi will be labeled as unreliable
due to his exaggeration; however if he one only loves Ali, they are Shia. If besides loving Ali, one insults
the companions and has animosity towards them, he is an exaggerating Shia; if one also believes in
Rijat, that person is extreme in his exaggeration.
) 713 (
. : - 1289 - - : 419 1
Al Asqalaani Al Shaafii, Ahmad Bin Ali Bin Hijr Abu Al Fadl (died 852 H), book: Hadiy Al Saari Muqaddimat
Fath Al Baari Sharh Sahih Al Bukhari (Explanation of Sahih Al Bukhari), volume 1, page 459, publisher:
Daar Al Marifa (House of Knowledge), Beirut, 1379, investigated by Muhammad Fuaad Abdil Baaqi,
Muhib Aldeen Al Khateeb.
Muhammad bin Ismail al-Amir alSanani says:

.
.
An evildoer is one who insults a believer, regardless of whom the believer is. Verily, insulting a
companion is as grave as insulting those in the company of Allahs Messengers; hence, insulting the
companions is viewed amongst the great sins.
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Al Sanaani, Muhammad Bin Ismaaeel Al Ameer Al Hassani (died 1182 H), book: Thamarrat Al Nathar fi
Ilm Al Athar (The Benefits of Looking into the Science of Tracing), volume 1, page 39-40, investigated by
Raaid Bin Sabri Bin Abi Alfa, publisher: Daar Al Aasima Lil Nashir wa Al Tawzee (The Capital House for
Publishing and Distribution), Al Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, first edition, 1417 H (1996 AD).
Even though the Ahl Sunna accuse numerous Shia scholars of exaggeration, they nonetheless refer to
their hadiths in the Siha Sitta.
For example:
1. Adi bin Thabit
Mezi says Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmidhi, NisaI, Abu Dawood and Ibn Majah have narrated from him:
)4 () ( ) (:
.) (
) (
) () (
He narrated according to: Al Baraa Bin Aazib (), and his father Thaabit (in Tirmithi and Qazwini), Wazir
Bin Hubaish Al Asadi (), and Zaid Bin Wahab Al Jahni (in Nisai), and Saeed Bin Jubair (), and Abi Haazim
Salmaan Al AshjaI (), and Sulaiman Bin Sard ().
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We have already explained the codes between the brackets.
Ibn Hajar Asqalani says about him:
...
.
Ibn Muin claimed, He is an extremist Shia. Salmi stated, I asked Daraqutni about him, he said, He is
reliable but he glorified Shiaism.
: 149 8 ) 713 (
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Al Asqalaani Al Shaafii, Ahmad Bin Ali Bin Hijr Abu Al Fadil (died 852 H), book: Tahtheeb Al Tahtheeb,
volume 7, page 149, publisher: Daar Al Fikr (House of Thought), Beirut, first edition, 1404 H (1984 AD).
2. Ibad bin Yaqub al-Rawajni
Mezi says Bukharim Trimidhi and Ibn Mahaj have narrated from him.
:
...
.
: :
.
: : :
. : :
Ahmad bin Adi said, I heard from Abdan and he narrated from Abu Bakr bin Abushaibah or Hinad bin
Sari that both of them or one of them accused him (Ibad bin Yaqub) of debauchery and insulting the
companions he has narrated Hadiths of the rank of Ahlulbait and the errors of others which have not
been accepted.
Ali bin Muhammad Marozi said, I asked Salih bin Muhammad about Ibad bin Yaqub, he said, he talks
ill about Uthman.
He also said, I heard Salih saying, Ibad bin Yaqub used to say: Allah (swt) for his fairness will not allow
Talha and Zubair to enter paradise. I said, Woe unto you, why (do you say this)? He replied, Because
they fought with Ali after their oath of allegiance to him.
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3. Ismail bin Khalifa:
Mezi in Tahzibul Kamal says about him:
...
) ( ... :
.) (
...
Ismaeel Bin Khalifa Al Absiy narrated from: Ibraheem Bin Hassan Bin Hassan Bin Ali Bin Abi Talib (as)
and Al Hakam Bin Utayba (in Ibn Majah Qazwini and Tirmithi), and Al Sirri Bin Ismaaeel and Fadeel Bin
Amro Al Faqeemiy (inIbn Majah Qazwini).
( = )Ibn Majah Qazwini (I replaced the letters with the names, I dont know if thats what u meant,
they are in green.
( = )Trimidhi
He then continues to write:
: ( )
. :
. :

Amro bin ali said, I asked Abdul Rahman to narrate the narrations of Abi Israaeel; he ignored my
request and said, Abu Israaeel (Ismail bin Khalifa) would talk ill about Uthman.
And Bukhari said: He was cursing Uthman when Ibn Mahdi left him.
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3, page 77-79. Investigated by Dr. Bashaar Awaad Maaroof, publisher: Muassasat Al Risaala (The
If exaggeration in Shiaism is reason for rejection, then why have the great men of Ahl Sunna referenced
them in their most authentic books?
Can insulting the Khalifs be a reason to reject a narrator?
We mentioned previously that because ibn Abi Darim spoke ill of Shaikhin (Abu Bakr and Umar) his
narrations were dismissed. However, in Sihha Sitta of Ahl Sunna, there are many narrators considered
as authentic despite their degrading views in regards to the Shaikhin.
1. Talid bin sulaiman alMahrabi, Abu Sulaiman

As a narrator of Sunna Trimidhi he openly criticized Abu Bakr and Umar. Mezi says about him:
. :
Abu Dawood said of him, He is a filthy Rafidhi and a misguided man. He would curse Abu Bakr and
Umar.
He also says:
: ]

[
. ) (
Abbas Dawri has mentioned Talid bin Sulaiman during another occasion, He is a liar who would insult
Uthman, and whoever insults Uthman, Talha, or any other companion, he is the Dajjal and his hadiths
will not be recorded; the curse of Allah (swt), the angels, and all men be upon him.
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Foundation), Beirut, first edition, 1400 H (1980 AD).
Ibn Hajjar Asqalani says:
....

A liar who would curse Uthman.
He also writes:
. :
Ibn Haban said, He was a Rafidhi who would curse the companions.
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Yet we see that the Ahl Sunna have classified this scholar as a reliable source, and they have accepted
his narrations. Ibn Hajar narrates from Marwazi:
.
It has been narrated from Ahmad Bin Hanbal that he was a Shia but we see nothing wrong with him. He
has also said that I have recorded many of his narrations which were narrated from Abu al-Jihaf.
. :
Bukhari said: Yahya bin Muin has talked against him, Ajali said, There is nothing wrong with him; he
was attached to Shia and would alter narrations.
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Mezi writes:
:) (:
:

. : . ...
Al Tirmithi Narrated: The hadith of Abi Al Jahhaaf according to Aatiyya according to Abi Saeed: The
Prophet (PBUH&HF) said: There is no prophet without two ministers and he said: accurate but strange.
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Foundation), Beirut, first edition, 1400 H (1980 AD);
Of course, whatever is beneficial to the Ahl Sunna will be considered as Hasan, and whatever
contradicts their beliefs and those of Shaikhin will be classified as weak, hence branding Sulaiman a
Rafidhi.
2. Abdul Razaq bin Haman:

Dhahabi writes about him:
.

There are some hadiths that are only narrated by him, and he was disliked for his Shia convictions,
specifically loving Ali and despising his enemies.
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Al Thahabi Shams Al Deen Muhammad Bin Ahmad Bin Uthmaan (died 748 H), book: Tathkarat Al Haafith
(The Memorizers Memoir), volume 1, page 364, publisher: Daar Al Kutub Al Ilmiyya, Beirut, first
edition.
Do not spew filth by mentioning Abu Sufyan:
Dhahabi writes in two of his books:

: :
.
I heard from Mukhlid Shairi who said, I was in the company of Abdul Razaq where Muawia was
mentioned; Abdul Razq said, Do not spew filth in our gathering by mentioning the son of Abu Sufyan.
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Daar Al Kutub Al Ilmiyya, Beirut, first edition, 1995;
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The complaint of Abdul Razaq to Umar

Dhahabi writes:
:
:

] [: .
: . : ! :
.
I heard from Ali bin AbduAllah bin Mubarak Sanani who said, Zaid bin Mubarak was in the presence of
Abdul Razaq on a regular basis and listened to him frequently, but at the end, he destroyed his books
and became the companion of Muhammad bin Thawr. And he was asked about this, and he said, I was
in the company of Abdul Razaq when the hadith of Ibn Hadathan was mentioned, where Umar said to
Ali and Abbas You have come to claim the share of inheritance from your nephew, and Ali has come to
claim the share of his wife from her father. Abdul Razaq said, See how this idiot says, Inheritance of
from your nephew but doesnt say Allahs Messenger. Therefore I left him and havent narrated from
him.
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Daar Al Kutub Al Ilmiyya, Beirut, first edition, 1995.
The reliability of Abdul Razaq:

Dhahabi writes about him:
. ...
His narrations have been recorded in Sihah, and he had a vast knowledge.
: 264 1 )847 (
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Al Thahabi Shams Al Deen Muhammad Bin Ahmad Bin Uthmaan (died 748 H), book: Tathkarat Al Haafith
(The Memorizers Memoir), volume 1, page 364, publisher: Daar Al Kutub Al Ilmiyya, Beirut, first
edition.
The great praise of Abdul Razaq by Yahya bin Muin

Hakim Naishabori, Dhahabi, and Ibn Hajjar have narrated from Yahya bin Muin who said:
.
Even if Abdul Razaq becomes apostate, I will still not leave his narration.
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Al Neesaaboori, Muhamd Bin Abdullah Abu Abdullah Al Haakim (died 405 H), book: Maarifat Uloom Al
Hadeeth (Knowledge of the Science of Narrations), volume 1, page 139, investigated by Al Sayyid
Muattham Hussein, publisher: Daar Al Kutub Al Ilmiyya, Beirut, second edition, 1397 H (1977 AD).
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Defense of Dhahabi towards Abdul Razaq:
Dhahabi narrates from Abbas bin Abdul Azim:
.
I swear by Allah whom there is no God besides Him! Verily Abdul Razaq is a liar, and Waqidi is more
truthful than him.
In reply to him, he says:
:
....
I said, I swear by Allah (SWT) Abbas has not done a good thing by saying this and what an evil word he
has spoken. On one side (in order to take advantage of his knowledge) he would use (this) Shaikh ul
Islam, the Narrator of time, a man whom the authors of Sihah have relied on his words, and on the other
hand he accuses him of lying.
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Classifying Nasibis as reliable

Having said all this, the Scholars of Ahl Sunna have classified some people as reliable who would curse
Amirul Mumenin, Imam Ali (as). Our question is, if cursing the companions makes a narrator weak, then
why have you classified the Nasibis as reliable?
Hence, if someone curses Abu Bakr and Umar, he is to be considered as weak, but those who curse
Imam Ali (as) are reliable? How can these double standards be justified?
InshaAllah we will now mention a few Nasibis who have been classified as reliable by the scholars of Ahl
Sunna.
1. Hariz bin Uthman AlHamasi:
This man would curse Amirul Mumenin Imam Ali (as), seventy times in the morning and in the
afternoon. Mezi, Dhahabi and Ibn Hajar in their books have written:
: :
.
Ahmad bin Sulaiman Marwazi narrated from Ismaill bin Iash who said:
I accompanied Hariz bin Uthman from Egypt to Mecca, during this period, he would insult Ali and curse
him.
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Al Thahabi, Shams Al Deen Muhammad Bin Ahmad Bin Uthmaan (died 748 H), book: Taarekh Al Islam
wa Wafiyyaat Al Mashaaheer wa Al Alaam (History of Islam and the Testimony of the Famous and
Knowledgeable), volume 10, page 123, investigated by Dr. Umar Abdul Salaam Tudmuri, publisher: Daar
Al Kitaab Al Arabiy (House of the Arabic Book), Beirut, first edition, 1407 H (1987 AD);
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Ibn Hajar Asqalani says:
:
. :
Ibn Haban said, He would curse Ali seventy times in the morning and the afternoon; I asked him the
reason of this, and he said, He had beheaded my fathers and ancestors.
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What is interesting is the approval of his authenticity by a plethora of Sunni scholars. Mezi and Ibn Hajar
write about him:
: ...
: :
. : :
Ahmad bin Hanbal was asked about him, and he stated twice, Reliable. He also said, In Shaam, there
was no one more reliable than Hariz in narrating hadiths.
Maaz bin Maaz recalls, When in the company of Ahmad bin Hanbal, the names of Hariz, Abu Bakr bin
Maryam, and Safawan were mentioned, and I heard him say, There is no one among them more
trustworthy than Hariz. Again, I heard Ahmad who said, Hariz is reliable, he is reliable.
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Ibn Hajar says about him:
.[ ]
He is amongst the narrators of Bukhari and four other books (except Muslim).
Badrul Deen Ainy writes:
. : .
Al Jamaaa (Sunnis) except for Muslim narrated from him, so did Abu jaafar Al Tahaawi. And in the book
Al Tahtheeb, Bukhari narrated two hadiths from him.
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Al Ayniy, Badr Al Deen Mahmood Bin Ahmad (died 855 H), book: Maghaana Al Akhbaar, volume 1, page
187.
If cursing the Khalifahs invalidates a narrator, then why has Bukhari referenced him, and why does
Ahmad bin Hanbal praise him in such manner?
2. Umar bin Sad bin Abi Waqas, the killer of Imam Hussain (as)
Mezi and Ibn Hajjar have written about Umar bin sad bin Abi Waqas, the commander of the army of
Yazid in Karbala:
. :
.
Ajali said: Umar bin Sad and others have narrated hadiths from his father. He is amongst the Tabieen
and hence, reliable. He is the one who killed Hussain (as).
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Message Foundation), Beirut, first edition, 1400 H (1980 AD);
How can someone who killed the son of the Prophet (PBUH&HF) in such a brutal manner way and then
captured the daughters of Allahs Messenger as prisoners be deemed trustworthy? On the other hand, if
someone loves Amirul Mumenin, considers him higher than the other 3 Khalifs, or if anyone insults the
Khalifahs, he is considered weak and hence rejected?
Conclusion:
There is nothing wrong with aforementioned narrations of Ibn Abi Darim. Regardless of the baseless
accusations levied against him, his perspective in relation to the Sahabas is no different than those of
the Ahl Sunna in regards to Imam Ali and Imam Hussein.

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Dhahabi, after narrating this Hadith, says:

1. Talid bin sulaiman alMahrabi, Abu Sulaiman

2. Abdul Razaq bin Haman:

The complaint of Abdul Razaq to Umar

The reliability of Abdul Razaq:

The great praise of Abdul Razaq by Yahya bin Muin

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