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Luke 6:43-45, Matt 7:15-
20, Matt 12:33.

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(43) His disciples said to (43) His disciples said to 48 [43]. His disciples said
him: Who are you, that you him, "Who are you, since to him: "Who art thou, who
say these things to us? you say these things to us?" tellest us these things?" "By
<Jesus said to them:> From <Jesus said to them>, "Do the things that I tell you, do
what I say to you, do you you (plur.) not understand you not recognise who I
not know who I am? But who I am from the things I am? But you yourselves
you have become like the am saying to you? Rather, have become like the Jews:
Jews; for they love the tree you have come to be like they like the tree and detest
(and) hate its fruit, and they Jews. For they love the tree, the fruit, they like the fruit
love the fruit (and) hate the and hate its fruit. And they and detest the tree!"
tree. love the fruit, and hate the
tree.

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Jesus (pbuh) basically is Robert M. Grant and David Noel Freedman write: "In this saying we have a highly
saying..."From what I told artificial construction. It takes its point of departure from John 8:25, where the Jews
you, you should clearly ask Jesus who he is; they know neither him nor his Father (John 8:19). Thomas has
know who I am, but you transferred the question to the disciples so that Jesus can say that they are 'like the
don't. He (pbuh) was Jews.' The Jews do not understand that the nature of the tree is identical with that of
implying a severe lack of the fruit (Matthew 7:16-20; Luke 6:43-44). And in both Matthew and Luke the
wisdom among his disciples. discussion of trees and fruits is followed by a rebuke to those who call Jesus 'Lord'
Here's the two-fold. Some but do not obey him. It looks as if Thomas has consciously tried to make his meaning
will love the tree (God) and more mysterious than that reflected in the gospels." (The Secret Sayings of Jesus, p.
hate the fruit (Jesus), and 156)
some will love the fruit F. F. Bruce writes: "This disciples' question is like that of the Jews to Jesus in John
(Jesus) and hate the Tree 8.25; Jesus's answer, with its implied insistence that tree and fruit are of the same
(God). All comments are of kind (cf. Saying 45), may be derived from the saying in Matthew 7.16-20 and Luke
my opinion, however. 6.43 f. The anti-Jewish sentiment recognizable in several places throughout the
- whacky Gospel of Thomas becomes quite explicit here." (Jesus and Christian Origens
You ask me, "Who are you to Outside the New Testament, p. 130)
say these things to us?" You Funk and Hoover write: "This exchange between Jesus and his disciples is polemical,
do not understand who I am as the hostile question in v. 1 indicates. Jesus responds by comparing the disciples to
from what I say to you.
Rather you have become like Judeans. The figure of speech employed draws on a common proverb to the effect
the people who live in Judea, that there is no separating the fruit from the tree it grows on. A comparable figure of
for they love self speech is employed in Thom 45:1-4 and its many parallels." (The Five Gospels, p.
righteousness and hate its 497)
consequences, and they love Gerd Ludemann writes: "With an image corresponding to 45.1, in v. 3 Jesus
peace and hate what will compares the disciples with Jews who want to separate tree and fruit or fruit and tree.
bring it. However, for the disciples it is a matter of knowing Jesus exclusively from his words
- Simon Magus (v. 2) as they are to be found in the Gospel of Thomas." (Jesus After 2000 Years, p.
Here we can clearly see the 611)
fanatical viewpoints of the
Pharisee and the layman.
What do we mean by loving
the tree and hating its fruit?
We yearn and venerate
Divinity but we reject that
which brings us there (sex).
Pharisee. What do we mean
by loving the fruit and hating
the tree? We care not about
wisdom and only about
fornication. Layman, those
who arrive at the Wedding
without a proper garment
(see the wedding parable).
The Tree of Knowledge
represents sex. We know this
because of statements such
as: "Adam knew eve."
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