debugging problems of Siemens mm430 in constant pressure water supply 13269938896 p003=3: enter all the parameters group.

p0010=1: entering motor parameter modification group. p0304=380: maximum output voltage of inverter. (Long distance should be given to problems of pressure drop). p0010=0: exit motor parameter modification group. Frequency converter must be set to 0. p0702=3 before running: downtime for the sliding stop closes the output. Prevents regeneration power reverse washed high inertia load inverter. p0756 (1) = 0: feedback voltage should be taken when 0. (for the current Access 1 and 2nd on the dip switch). p10801=10-15: constant pressure state, motor minimum rotation speed Hz, not water the best. p1300=2: fan/pump characteristic curve of load control. Starting difficulty desirable 1. p2253=2250: define pressure set to p2240. That is with the p2240 parameter value set for the constant pressure point. When Loopy 10K potentiometer settings when pressure p2253=755.0 with 1, 2, 3 terminal setting. p2200=1: frequency converters to PI closed loop works. p2280=0.0x:p parameter, usually taken 0.02-0.08. is subject to the actual system. p2285=0.0x:i parameter, usually taken 0.01-0.04. is subject to the actual system. p2293=10:PI closed-loop work time to rise from 0 to 50hz, is subject to the power of a frequency converter

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Just adding one more point on top of bansal's comment. set the parameter P2231 = 1. (this will save you setpoint stored in P2240 else, you have to enter the setpoint each time when power goes.) Since you says that you are using a PID loop for the MM430, i am assuming that there must be a feedback signal (like pressure/temp signal, 4-20mA / 0-10V ) connected to analog input. If that is the case i'll give a brief explanation reg how to set the setpoints. initially do the factory resetting and do a quick commissioning as the document says and end the quick commissiong by setting P3900 = 2 (This is to save all your commissioning data, else default value will come) P0700 = 2 (you can start or stop the VFD with the help of a +24V given to Digital Input 1) P0756 , P0757 , P0758 , P0759 , P0760 (These are for how to set your Analog Input signal as voltage signal or current signal and their max. limit) eg: say I'm using a current signal as 4-20mA for my feedback signal my parameters will be P0756 = 2 (unipolar current source) P0757 = 4 (minimum current input, in my case its 4mA) P0758 = 0 % (im scaling my analog input to 0 - 100 % for a standard purpose) P0759 = 20 (maximum current is 20 mA) P0760 = 100 % P1000 = 0 P2200 = 1 (Enable PID Controller) P2231 = 1 (to store your setpoint entered in P2240) P2235 = 19.D (to increase the speed by pressing "UP" via BOP-2) P2236 = 19.E (to decrease the speed by pressing "DOWN" via BOP-2) P2240 = 60% (Your Set-Point) [please chk that by pressing up/down key via BOP-2 your set point changes, see description in the parameter list.] P2253 = 2250 (to choose your set-point ) P2257 = 20 (ramp-up time) P2258 = 20 (ramp-down time) P2264 = 755.0 (to select your feedback is from analog input 1) P2267 = 100 (maximum value of PID feedback) P2268 = 0 (minimum value of PID-feedback) P2271 = 0 (if you want your operration to be reversed you have to give "1" here. [PID-inversion]) P2291 = 100 (PID output limit.) P2292 = 0 (if your motor requires to run a speed higher than say 20Hz you shoud set it here) these are parameters to be considered in a PID controller. I assumes that you are using a feedback mentioned earlier. If there is no such feedback, then there is no need for a PID-loop. You can straight away set your values. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask

I will try to explain to the best of my knowledge. "P2253", PID-SetPoint :- The value of 2250:0 is the correct one. There is no indexing in it. Or in simple words, You can set the Setpoint from one MOP.

For example, say you want the PID-SetPoint need to be set from what you recieve as data word through communication. In that case you set it as 2050.0 - 2050.7 (since it comprises of 8 data words) P2235 & P2236 :- If the 'higher' or 'lower' key (e.g. on the BOP) is pressed briefly (< 1 second) the frequency setpoint ischanged in increments of 0.1 Hz. The setpoint change is accelerated if the keys are pressed for longer. Suppose when your drive is running and you changed the value in P2240. This change will comes into picture only when the drive stops and starts again. "P2264" Setting the Feedback :- Can you please check the P0756 in the Parameter list (see the diagram in that). may be the DIP switches mentioned there and the value you set have some conflicts. P0756 has index. P0756[0] {for analog input 1}, P0756[1] {for analog input 1} so, care must be taken that you set P0756[0], P0757[0], P0758[0], P0759[0], P0760[0] - in order to assign scaling factor for analog input - 1. and even after, it again creates problem, then connect to "analog input - 2" and set your scaling settings from P0756[1] - P0760[1] and set the parameter P2264 as "755.1" "P3900" :- you can end the quick commissioning by placing value P3900 = 3. Regarding the staging/De-Staging process, I dont have any practical experience in it. But, I'll tell what i got understood. I hope you had set the parameter P2371 as per requirement. and now please check the attacment. In that you can see P731 (function of digital output 1) set to 2379:0
P0731 = 2379:0 to 2379:F (function of these values are"Motor Staging Status word")

In the parameter list, P0731 has options only of 52.0 to 53.B But it has so many other options. for the use of staging/De-Staging purpose, it has to be"2379:0 to 2379:F" (i got this information when i checked with drive monitor software.) So, I think you should set P0731[0] = 2379:1 / 2379:2 (i comared with descriptions of 52:1 and 52:2 in the parameter list.) P0732[0] = 2379:1 / 2379:2 And I am not sure regarding this stagging will work or not. hope that i had given you some idea. or other forum members could help you out. feel free to ask questions.

Thank you very much for your help recently. I have met some problems, I would like to ask you some question as following: I have set all PID necessary parameter as your direction as below: Since I'm using a current signal as 4-20mA for my feedback signal, so that I scale the analog input 1, or analog input 2 by set parameters are: P0756 = 2 (unipolar current source) P0757 = 4 (minimum current input, in my case its 4mA) P0758 = 0 %

P0759 = 20 (maximum current is 20 mA) P0760 = 100 % P1000 = 0 P2200 = 1 (Enable PID Controller) P2231 = 1 (to store your setpoint entered in P2240) P2235 = 19.D (to increase the speed by pressing "UP" via BOP-2) P2236 = 19.E (to decrease the speed by pressing "DOWN" via BOP-2) P2240 = 60% (Your Set-Point) P2253 = 2250 (to choose the set-point ) P2257 = 20 (ramp-up time) P2258 = 20 (ramp-down time) P2264 = 755.0 (to select the feedback is from analog input 1) P2264 = 755.1 (to select the feedback is from analog input 2) P2267 = 100 (maximum value of PID feedback) P2268 = 0 (minimum value of PID-feedback) P2271 = 0 P2291 = 100 (PID output limit.) P2292 = 0 (if the motor requires to run a speed higher than say 20Hz you shoud set it here) After I set all parameter I save by setting parameter P3900 = 3. And after setting I have checked again all parameter have correct value as I desire. The problem that I have met are: 1) After scaling Analog signal input in a correct way and all parameter for PID control were set as above, I have read the value of r2272 (CO: PID scaled feedback) and see that the value of r2272 was wrong. When I set Analog input = 4mA then I read parameter was r2272 = 12% ( if correct it must be 0% because the analog input was scaled). I have tested with entire 2 analog input 1 and 2 by set : P2264 = 755.0 (to select the feedback is from analog input 1) P2264 = 755.1 (to select the feedback is from analog input 2) and it was still have the wrong value. Could you please show me the way to solve this problem 2) I couldnt know how to set the parameter in the index part. Example as: I want to know the way to set parameters as: Index: P0756[0] : Analog input 1 (ADC 1) P0756[1] : Analog input 2 (ADC 2) Index: P2253[0] : 1st. Command data set (CDS) P2253[1] : 2nd. Command data set (CDS) P2253[2] : 3rd. Command data set (CDS) I couldnt make the appearance of characters after each index parameter as [0], [1], [2] or [3] to set the value in! . I dont know that if I use BOP2 then I can set index parameter or not?I wonder whether I must use a PC software to set index parameter

part or not?Could you please show me the way to set these kind of parameter? I am looking forward to your direction. Best regards Hoang Quoc Xuyen.
Dear Mr Hoangxuyen, I hope that you had selected the DIP switch (mentioned in P0756 in the paramaeter list) as "ON" position. There are 2 DIP switches, one for analog input 1 and other for analog input 2. For current signal feedback you need to place that DIP switch in up-direction (ie. ON) Now dealing with Analog input scaling: (only mentioning the one required for analog input scaling, rest all parameters remains the same) If you are using analog input 1 or 2 as your feedback, then pls chk these values. Analog Input 1 P0756[0] = 2 P0757[0] = 4 P0758[0] = 0 P0759[0] = 20 P0760[0] = 100 P2253[0] = 2250 P2264[0] = 755.0 Analog Input 2 P0756[1] = 2 P0757[1] = 4 P0758[1] = 0 P0759[1] = 20 P0760[1] = 100 P2253[0] = 2250 P2264[0] = 755.1

P2253 & P2264 are set on 0th data set. (for both the cases). But the scaling parameters are set in different data sets. After seting theses parameter can you please check two parameters? these are readable parameters just to ensure what your data receiving are correct. r0752[0] (Act. Input of ADC) for Analog I/P -1 r0754[0] (Act. ADC value after scaling) Analog I/P -1 or if you are using analog input 2, then r0752[1] (Act. Input of ADC) for Analog I/P -2 r0754[1] (Act. ADC value after scaling) Analog I/P -2 Here, you see clearly how much current you are providing to the drive. And how is the scaling done. If you check the P0752 in Parameter list, a detailed diagram is given. Each and every step is clearly mentioned via block diagram. I think it will be useful to you. To be on the safer side please try to do every thing with Analog Input-1 to avoid confusion. I hope this will work.

Dear Mr.hoangxuyen, If you are asking how to view/change different indexes ??? Lets take an example say, P0756 your BOP display will be having P0756.0 = 2 right??? and the only 0756 will be highlightened, ie, when you press UP/Down key 0756 will be changed rite?? ( P0756.0 = 2 ) Now if you press the "Fn" key in the BOP the highlightened display will shift from P0756 to index "0" Now uising your Up/Downkey you can change the index variables. Each time it will comes as P0756.0 = 2 P0756.1 = 2 P0756.3 = 2

Now if you press again you "Fn" key in BOP, you can shift from index to the value part. and pressing UP/DOWN key changed the value P0756.0 = 2 P0756.0 = 1