EROTIC HYPNO TRAINING

Lying Down Inductions for Eroticatrance and More

http://trancesociety.socialgo.com/forum/topic/36

On fetlife, there was a question in one of the erotic hypnosis groups regarding what is
the best hypnosis induction to use with someone who is lying down . . .
specifically, for eroticatrance.

A variation of the hand drop http://trancesociety.socialgo.com/videos/view/core-skills-

64-hand-drop_122.html was mentioned that uses a few words which is a powerful and
worthwhile induction. I've done the same bit as five, three, one, and no word variations
just to show folks that number of words is not the magick formula but the engagement of
the imagination. However, it is a very solid induction and works really really well.

I would more likely use an armpull induction in those contexts (particularly my own
variation, the Phillips Armpull Induction which can be found at
http://trancesociety.socialgo.com/videos/view/core-skills-60-phillips-armpull-
induction_126.html as it has a bit of confusion thrown in for good measure) but for an
erotic session I'd very likely just start with some eye fixation and eye catalepsy to start and
then do an erotic variation of a progressive relaxation deepener (the magickal erotic touch
version works really well, especially if you tie in actual touch to the suggestions).

Do keep in mind that for erotic sessions, it's less about speed and more about
building erotic response.

If I've worked with someone before, then I'd likely just start with the trigger and work
from there . . . if no trigger has been installed then I'd simply drop tonality and
let automatic response do its thing (yes, even when folks have no formal trigger they
automatically trigger respones to you when you use tonality, touch, or even eye contact).
Don't believe me, take my courses and learn for yourself.

Erotic hypnosis is more about the sensuality of the beast than the raw power . . . even if
you're moving into edge materials . . . certainly catalepsy is a lot of fun (some folks have
seen my demo where I stick someone to a wall via suggestion and then use imaginary
feathers to do some interesting bits).
I love speed hypnosis . . . seriously, love the beasties and have taught specialty courses on
the subject all over the planet . . . but it ain't the speed that matters as much as the
sensations that are created.

IMNSHO.

Since the discussion has been taking place on fetlife, where fetish lifestyles are freely
expressed, a very good point was made about how some folks are less interested in a slow
relaxing experience as something shocking that implies power exchange.

These are very very good points. Note that I suggested an eye catalepsy as part of the get-
go as a means of gaining immediate trance and then the longer bit is a sensual deepener
(some folks mistakenly think progressive relaxation, sensual or otherwise, is an induction
only or useless but it's actually a very worthwhile deepener after you've established
experiential hypnosis - let's not throw out the gold with the chaff and dross).

If it's mostly about power then with a lying subject I would still likely do a variation of an
arm pull. Hand drop would be okay as well, but honestly it would all depend upon
context.

Here's something you can do which is both about power and control and I've done it a few
times. Take the classic stick-stuck-to-hand suggestibility
effecthttp://trancesociety.socialgo.com/videos/view/core-skills-49-stick-stuck-to-
hand_137.html or another catalepsy based effect (arm LOCK
http://trancesociety.socialgo.com/videos/view/core-skills-30-arm-stiffening_156.html or
leg catalepsy http://trancesociety.socialgo.com/videos/view/core-skills-43-leg-
catalepsy_143.html or the impossible to sit or stand
bitshttp://trancesociety.socialgo.com/videos/view/core-skills-50-impossible-to-
sit_136.html or http://trancesociety.socialgo.com/videos/view/core-skills-51-impossible-
to-stand_135.html come to mind or any of the others) and use it as a waking
hypnosisinduction. I tend to use it as part of a waking hypnosis suggestibility
sequence thatmoves from physical catalepsy to kinesthetic and emotional effects such
ashttp://briandavidphillips.net/2010/08/17/sticky-stick-waking-hypnosis/

Now, with that in mind, the idea of suggesting a person's muscles or limbs are locked tight
and cataleptic, imagine how you can use it in a power exchange erotic capacity . . . I
mentioned pinning someone to a wall but you can pin them to a bed as well . . . with eyes
open and even use tonality so that it implies you are in control of their limbs (and once
their imaginative involvement is intensified then that control is actually transferred to
you).

So, if I have you lay down on the bed or stand against the wall with your limbs akimbo (an
X-cross, but without cross or ropes - hypnotists don't need ropes to restrain
folks), I then start the patter of you feeling your limbs becoming tighter and tighter so
that you begin to feel them stretching tight as if invisible chains are pulling them tighter
and tighter so that you are completely immobile and cannot move. In fact the more you
try to move the tighter they become so that you are stuck tight within my power. As
catalepsy is quickly established, I then move on to my invisible tickle feathers as above or
get out myvoodoo doll so that anything I do to the doll you
feelhttp://briandavidphillips.net/2009/08/30/exotic-hypnosis-the-voodoo-doll/ of
course, I hold the doll in special ways and use my finger to tickle "interesting" areas and
even do some licking and kissing bits, perhaps taking out a vibrator or doing other things
of interest.

That's a quick pattern, completely with eyes-open (my own variation of what I call Hyp-
No-Sleep in my courses on the subject to play with the idea of eyes open, no sleep or eye
closure, waking trance hypnosis . . . by the way, it is still possible to register for my
upcoming course on this very subject.
Seehttp://www.briandavidphillips.com/training/hypnosleep.html for details but register
NOW or you may miss your chance.).

This can also play into both straightup regular vanilla erotictrance or the more alternative
power exchange play very very easily.

Honestly, be creative, once you've got your core skills down, you can adapt them to just
about any context you like.

Please note that many of the links above are to episodes of the free online core
hypnosis skills video course at the Community
athttp://trancesociety.net/community - a complete video course in core skills of hypnosis
with explanations and demonstrations of all of the basic skills required for basic
memberHypnotist Certification with the Society of Experiential
Trance(http://www.trancesociety.org). Membership in the Community is free.

I hope this has been helpful.

All the best,
Brian
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(This topic was originally posted in the forum of the private group
Eroticatrance, and is being cross-posted here to encourage responses from the
collective resources of the larger membership)

Come on everyone, let’s heat things up in this Edgy Topics forum! Here’s the
idea… let’s all share at least one favorite hypnotic suggestion that we take
pleasure in using during an erotic trance session.

You could share from the point of view of the hypnotist making the
suggestion, or from that of the hypnotee enjoying receiving the suggestion.
Make it as simple or elaborate as you’d like. And it doesn’t need to be original
or even creative – it’s just one of your favorites… that’s all. So just jump in and
go for it!

To get this party started, I’ll go first. One of my absolutely all-time favorite
erotic suggestions to give is what I call the “Erotic Blindfold.” Although you
could use this as an induction in itself, I prefer to do this as a suggestion after
the induction and even after some deepening. The concept itself starts off
very simply; you suggest that you’re tying on an erotic blindfold 被蒙住眼睛的魯莽的; 輕率,
and that all the time it’s on, the hypnotee will not be able to see anything
that’s going on around or to her (this works equally well on both sexes, by the
way).

Now here’s where it gets way interesting. The variations on this theme are
endless! First of all, you can choose the material the blindfold is made of, a
few examples being silk, rope, or a pair of stockings. Use your imagination (or
your direct experience) for more ideas.

Next, you can create a trigger for quickly removing the blindfold AND for
quickly putting it back on. (Lots of great uses for this… again, use your
imagination) I’ve found that auditory triggers (a word or a sound) or
kinesthetic ones, like some sort of touch, work best for this, especially
because the person can’t “see” – lol!

If you’re into magick, you can build in sensual/sexual spell-making abilities to

the erotic blindfold, and then play those out as you choose.
To end this post, I’ll give you one more, and it is awesome. In the set-up, add
“virtual reality” capabilities into the erotic blindfold, so that you have the
ability to create whatever “reality” for the hypnotee that you choose. Similar
to how real-life virtual reality headsets work, now you, as the hypnotist, are
the one creating the sensual/sexual “reality” (the fantasy, of course) that the
person begins to “see,” experiences as real, and then starts to act out in
trance. Mmmm, mouth-watering, isn’t it?

As I said before, the variations on the “Erotic Blindfold” theme really are
endless! Perhaps you can think of a few more and post them here.

But hey, that’s enough from me. Now it’s your turn. Feel free to keep it simple,
if you choose, or get more descriptive and elaborate about it. What’s one of
your favorite erotic hypnotic suggestions that you like giving or receiving?

Come on, Edgy Topics people, let’s heat up this forum... inquiring minds want
to know!

- Master Dagaz

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To repeat what we've already stated elsewhere . . .

Obviously, there is a whole slew of things I enjoy . . . but some would be more
towards the top of my list than others.

Honestly, just accellerating pleasure and sexual response is probably enough .

. . I could happily be overloading someone's sexual response all night along
with a whole lot of orgasming.

However, while that's pretty much what most folks who approach me for
information and training are after, it's pretty straightforward stuff.

If I'm in a creative mood, and I usually am, I might slip in some shapeshifter
stuff where I suggest that the trance partner is shifting into a lycanthrope form
. . . a werecreature . . . often feline (those of you familiar with my Feline
Fantasy script or mp3 know whereof I speak and that script process was based
upon live sessions). In appropriate circumstances with an appropriate partner,
I would suggest that the trance partner experience my presence also as a
lycanthrope (wolfen, of course). Yes, the furry folks would enjoy that. I have
done a lot of work with animal spirit guides and shapeshifting for introspective
meditation so the erotic approach is an adaptation of that albeit with bells and
whistles and fang and fur so to speak.

- Brian
I have a good time simply taking a response and feeding it into a loop.
Someone who normally is very quiet during sex might enjoy a suggestion
along the lines of "Imagine what it would feel like if the sounds you make,
increase the pleasure you feel. The more sounds you make, the more pleasure
you feel. The more pleasure you feel, the louder the sounds become..."

In my experience, formal hypnosis isn't required. Just whispering it in their ear

is often eno
That's a most excellent combination of creative and primal erotic hypnosis,
the lycanthrope form. And yes, with an appropriate partner, that could morph
into some very enticing and pleasurable experiences. Also, I totally agree that
sexual response IS an erotic trance experience, and then it can be insanely
heightened by one's awareness of that.

@KRJackson

Great comment about informally creating a feedback loop, especially starting

it with the hypnotic language pattern, "Imagine

On particularly fun bit is to do the "cat woman" transformation with an

appropriate partner and as they notice the physical sensations of the change
in jaw shape, the elongation of certain teeth, the feel of the fur, and changes
in the face, and the feeling of a tail . . . then slip in the . . . "you're in heat"
suggestion and play with that. Growls, howls, and mews can all be used to
reinforce the sensation.

Agreed, self-reinforcing feedback loops are golden.

- Brian