ALBERTO
JUANTORENA
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We had wanted to interview him for ages,
and T had been packing a plaque honoring
him as 1976's Athlete of the Year around
Europe for almost 2 weeks.
‘After this auspicious start, it was there-
fore rather disheartening when the frst five
things he said to me were “NNO!,
amghisrsty, mmm, mmm” and “mmm
‘The first response comes the next
night on the warmup track. I'm rot a fan
of opening ceremonies, so T hang around
outside to play a litte Frisbee with some of
the US. team
Suddenly, there he is-The
Man. Knowing that he is dying to meet me
and to get hs plaque (I still don't know
how he knew I had it), Tmake my move.
Forgetting that your typical US.
athlete is loo and retaxed, and that some
of the more-disciplined athletes from the
rest of the world might take pre-race
preparation a bit more seriously, 1
approach him, flashing my best toothy
arin, with hand extended.
“Hi Alberto, I'm Garry...”
“NNO!” Abruptly turning on his heel,
he stalks away.
“But I have a present for you,” 1
whimper in my most phintive voice. End
of Round |
Shortly thereafter, Juantorena takes
hs Round I with Mike Boit
Tam awakened early the next morning
by a call from the ubiquitous Tassos
Verghitsis, who claims to know just about
everyone in the world, and may be righ
‘An expatriate Greek, Tassos has said,
“Track and field is my life, and Track &
Field Nows is my bible.”
He knows we wanted Juanto. “I have
arranged a half-hour interview at the
Rheinstern Hotel in one hour,” he says.
Grabbing former Staff Weiter Don
Steffens for som: moral support (and
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T&FEN Interview
by Garry Hill
because he is am astute inquisitor), we head
off. Racing through the raln-swept streets
of Dusseldorf in our cab, Lam filled with
doubts. What if he sill doesn't want to talk
to me? My thoughts tumed to an
carly-summer story in France's ‘Equipe,
which said that Jugntorena got along well
with American blacks but was standoffish
to the WASP Pacific Coast Club. Will It00
be stung?
The Rheinstem Hotel is a mob scene.
Dozens of youngsters crowd the sidewalks,
begging autographs from anything remotely.
resembling an athlete. They don't ask us.
“The lobby is today’s version of the
noted har scene in Star Wars. A group of
Africans, bedecked in orang: warmups,
one corner, a bunch of greetrelad Asians
another. Stacks of vaulting poles in the
hallway. American. coaches/reeruiters
making lastiminute pitches to exacerbate
the foreigner problem. Shoe salesmen
Pushing their wares. A pair of East Indian
weightmen holding hands (no, Anita,
customs are different there,
A quick phone call, thon an ckvator
ride with KarbHlans Richm to the 62h fo
AA tentative knock on the door. No direct,
response, but heads poke out of adjoining
portals. "Eyes stare. You can read the
minds: “Who are these mere mortals who
dare to knock on the door of the great
Juantorens?”
Another knock, and still no response
‘Then the realization that the bouncing beat
of music isn't the hotel's hallway Muzak.
It’s coming from inside the room, A couple
of vigorous fists produce results.
“Amghisrsty,” says Juantorena, tooth-
brush clamped between his teeth, lips
flecked with foam. Clad in one of the
skimpizst pairs of red bikini underwear
known to man.
“My God!” 1 think.
“He's human
after al! He has o brash his eth just ke
While we wait for Alberto to finish his
ablutions, we take the lead offered by his
pointing finger and move into the main
room, walls vibrating with sound.
‘On the dresser is a massive record
player, pumping its notes through a pair of
large floor speakers. The volume s cranked
all the way right and we are treated to what
seems like a thousand decibels worth of the
Isley Brothers. Of course, if we didn’t like
‘that, we could have chosen something else
from the healthy stack on the floor.
‘The room is strewn with the
memonibiia and clutter of 6 months on
the Tod. And enough adidas bags to carry
it all. “There was obviously joy and
celebration after the victory over Boit. A.
champagne bottle (unopened) is on the
Gresser and the ashtrays are ful
‘And stil trying to sleep through it all
js roommate Alejandro Castnas, the world
110 hurdle record holder. He acknowledges
cour presence, then once more ties to hide
Bis feed under a unde of Blankets anda
pv Feantorena glides back into the 100m.
What a specimen! Hle may be The Horse CE?
Gabaito} When he tans, But sbinking around
the room virtually’ au naturel he is
definitely £1 Tigre
Not an ounce of adipox tissue clings
to his body. You a body culture freak?
You like “his quadriceps and hamstrings?
You ought to see where they dive back
under the skin at point of insertion. But his
anatomy (6-2/185, bom 3/21/31) is
wellknown. It’s his head into which we
want to get
Trying to get « cogent interview done
in a mere 30 minutesisa pretty tough task.
Aayboy, Tor example. tes you that its
famous interviews tske phice over hours
and hours in a period of months. We never
take nearly that long, but certainly a lot
more than the half-hour allotted to us here.
And we are without the benefit of @
translator, working solely on our subject's
knowledge of English,
What emerged for us was a fascinating
ricture of Iuantorens. While there was just
bit of the mandatory revolutionary
Thetorie one finds in virtually every plece
Track & Field Newsvwaitien on him, it
passion. He's an athlete who travels the
World. And perhaps his travels and views
into different cultures are depoliticizing
him,
We also saw avery inteligent, probing.
‘mind, Very rarely did we have to rephrase a
‘question. And he was able to quickly cut
through to the heat of the matter.
Terribly pragmatic, he did not give
trite, embellished answers (0. simple
questions. Rather, there was a look of
‘Ny ate you asking me tha!? You already
know the answer” and a noncommital
nt. AK least he doest get misquoted
that way.
His eyes are alive, ever-twinkling. And
his mouth is in an enigmatic slant. He
appears constantly bemused. Was he
laughing at us? I got the feeling throughout
our session that he was playing
cat-and-mouse.
don’t think he likes journalists, and.
he probably isn't a fan of Americans. But
he knows the value of promotion, and he
knows TREN place in the world. He
wants to be known 28 the world’s best, and
he wants the U.S. to be prepared for his
coming. vee
‘Things begin slowly as our first three
tutterances-introductions, an apology for
interrupting his prerace psych, and
congratulations for being the 1976 Athlete
of the Year~provoke “mmm, mmm” and
With great ado, | produce his plaque
and prosent it. After a long pause, in which
Bible of the Sport
Juantorena examines every square
Centimeter, the interview is underway,
albeit a bit digointed:
TEN: You must have a lot of awards
and trophies
Juantorena [after another tong
pense: First one like this.
TFN: Well, maybe next year you
will get another one. Now that you are
running the 800 more and more, do vou
like the 800 more than the 400, tess, the
Suantorena: More the 800.
T&FN: Do you feel that you can run
different kinds of races now, start siow.
start fas it makes no difference?
Juartorena: None. | can change my
speed now.
T&FN: Were vou surprised last night
whew it was slow in the first quarter?
Iuantorena: No.
TAEN: Did you know that Boit was
always right behind you?
SJuantorena: | wes all the time waiting
for Bots attack.
T&EN: You could tell on the curve
when he started to sprint?
Iuantorena: Yes,
T&EN: You never 1
catch you?
Juantorena: Never. Ihave fought with
him, both of us running fast laps and
running slow and I best him both times.
T&EN: You travelled arownd « bit in
Europe this summer,
Juantorena:
Hungary, many plices
TAFN: Which countries do you like
to sisi in Europe?
Juantorena: Some countries are very
It is too difficult for me to choose
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sht he would
Sweden, Polandbetween them.
T&FN: Do you like to go dnd visit the
ceustes, the old buildings?
Suantorena: And museums and
gardens. Especially gardens.
TAPN: You like flowers and trees?
Juantorena: And grass green. Green
grass is nice, [Tike to ron on
TEEN: After Montreal, you said you
were glad thet your country lied given you
Ihe chance 10 compete and there were
stories that you were going to go hack and
work in the eanefields, Did you?
Juantorena: Every Cuban worksin the
sugareane. Everyone neips the Cuban
economy. For me it was 4 years ago. 1
could not help last year because it was
during my preparation season. Before I was
a runner 1 helped with the harvest. That
lasts for 6 months. I did it for 2 years when
Twain the army.
TEN: Does everyone in Cuba g9 into
the army?
Juantorena: Everybody is proud 10
defend the Cuban Revolution.
T&EN: A German paper sold that
Premier Castro came down out of the
mountains near where you live.
Juantorena: Yes, just 2 years after 1
was born.
TFN: After you became Olympic
champion, how many times did you get 10
‘meet Premier Castro?
Juantorena: Two times. He was all the
time talking athletics because he was an
athlete who was a basketball player and
800-meter man.
TEEN: Whet wos his best time?
Juantorena {aughing): You know, he
fold me he could never run less than 2
minutes.
T&FN: One question I've always
wanted t0 ask you: do you miss basketball?
Juantorena: Yes, | was a basketball
player first—but bad.
T&PN: Bed?
Juantorena: Yes, bad.
TREN: Do you ever play it for fan?
Juantorena:” Never for fun, it was on
the National Junior Team.
TEEN: No, no. Now, do you play for
Sun, relaxation?
Juantorena: Just for preparation.
Preparation for athieties.
TEEN: Do you do other sports?
Juansorena: Switnmning.
T&FN: I'm gad. I sink [laughter elt
around). In America, after the Montreal
Olympics, you were probably the most
popular athlete, maybe even more than
Bruce Fenner. {'think you wif have a very
trong following on the day you come to
America and you will draw very big crowds
‘end they will clap very loudly. Would you
Uke 10 come someday?
Jugntorena: Why not? If we have
lose relations, all is possible.
TEEN: How about in Conada?
Juantorena {reaching under his bed to
produce a brochure]: | have this invitation
from the Toronto, Star.
T&EN: Indoors! [Thinking of those
Bible of the Sport
ong legs on those tight curves.
Juantorena: Maybe 1 will be there in
February.
TFN: You think you can run on the
boards?
Jeantorena: Mmnnvhmm.
T&FN: Do you have different eruning
schedules in preparing for the 800 and the
4007
Juantorena: | combine the training.
“| Was Afraid
in The Olympics’
‘Training for the 400 meters helps the 800.
And some resistance training in the 800
helps.
T&FN: Do
distance in the fall?
Juantorena: No, no, not so much. The
Jongest Irun for the 400 is only 300 meters
anda alt.
TREN: You never run eross country?
Juantorena: Not so much kilometers.
I think Tam the only 800 meter runner 1o
have only 1000 kilometers in a year. Only-
T&FN: Only a thowand! You must
run that many in races [large laughter all
around).
Juantorena: The others run 3000
kilometers, 2 thousind and a half.
TEEN: Do vou think you would lose
your speed if you ran that far?
Juantorena: Manian (voncoraaital]«
T&FN: When you fist ran the 500,
were you scared?
Juantorent: 1 yas afraid in the
Olympics because { was thinking that Thad
to have the power to run 3 times 800 and
then try to get a medal.
T&EN: What has the result of sour
success in the Olympics been in Cuba?
Juantorena: There is now more
attraction for track and field. You know.
Fike the children all the time want to do
what they think is most important. For
example, when Stevenson won a medal,
children was fighting in the street {at which
hhe goes through 2 quick shadow-boxing
routine]. Like Stevenson,
‘And now, all children are running in
the streets. Everybody calls now {switching
itched faleattol: “Suantorena,
you run much tong
TAC this point, the phone rings for the
third time during the interview]
TEN: Do you get many phone call?
Do people aways want to tale 10 you?
Jugntorena: Just journalists like you.
T&EN: Yah, journalisis like us. No
girls though, because you are married, no?
Juartorena: Yes, Uhave 2 kids. One of
them is only 2 months.
TEEN: Fave you seen him yet?
Juantorena: Yes, at the London
sigport. The other one, my daughter, is 2
ystre and 10, almost 3 year
TREN: [ think that many people tn
America would be surprited thet You speck
such good Ergish
Teantorent: English good! No! Dre
never been ih te schools forthe English.
TEEN: How did you arn?
Jantorenn: Casinas teach me
CCasanas [till buried to the eyes under
the covers and who speaks even better
‘English Lite bit
TEEN Juaking the baitl: Did he
really? [then,eatchig the grins and winks
the Cubansare exchanging) Oh, a joe
Inancorena: Aoke.
TEEN Who us Your Kol when vou
were youn
Jwantorena: My idol?
{world record holding sprinter]
TEEN: What did your wije do before
you were married?
“Inentorent: Sho was a student, she
studied’ mathematios-computers. Now she
fs changing to physcal education at Habana
University
TEEN: What wil you do when you
{nsh running?
Jnantorera: | will £0 t0 work. In
economics.
TEEN: You have to learn how 10
spend your money?
Juantorena’ [grinning broadly and
making a dealing motion]: Count the
‘money, count the mney.
TAL this point, a slight man enters the
room and fies off a. quick round of
staceato Spanish and leaves a8 suddenly 3
eapprared|
Gentlemens, the interview is over
‘hank you. T must go for my massage
As it tured out, we had been able to
sneak almost 40 minutes of his time. But
no, it wasn't enought ase him about his
plans for the 1300, tactics, hs opponents,
ft. We now have lots of pood questions
Inf for nent time.
‘Asa posiscript, we take you 10 the
practice track that evening. Don and I vere
Aiscussng the state of the Earth. with
Britain's Dave Jenkine whon we heard a
commotion a the gate
“NNO, NNO! said the familiar voice
of youknowho. There was a young local
forcing a pen and paper into Iuantocena's
shest. Totally” incensed, he dashed. the
offending implements to the ground ard
stalked onto the invield. Within seconds,
feverl more Kinder flocked to his knees
with photographers drcing about t0 catch
the image ofthis lone ire inthe middle of
idewrt.
Muttering 4 few nasty words and
waving his arms, Jusntorena charged from
ine group and stomped off tobe atone.
‘Moments liter, he passed by” the
fence, hands on hips, ssow on face. Ase
rotsed us, he looked up, ecoked one side
ff his mouth and gave a glant wink that
only wo could se.
Maybe we will get anext time.
November 1977-9
Figuerola