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This is a collection of posts from Badboy from Late 2008 - Early 2009 from the
Direct Method forums. After taking a hiatus, Badboy returned to the forums with
all new techniques and methods, culminating in the DNA (Direct Natural
Attraction) program. I've tried cleaning up the grammatical and spelling errors
for everyone here but there will no doubt be a few left :)
Enjoy.
- Lateralus.
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I was "away" from community for a while, in meantime I discovered lots of new
things regarding game, and especially direct game. When I get free time, I will
try to post here my new discoveries.
For those who think I am not direct..LOL, Indeed, I am very direct when it
comes to girls, and teaching as well. For guys who been on my seminars, they
know that I don't bullshit around, and how straightforward am I, but still I am
very flexible in using tools to get girl I want.
As this is my first post here. I want to say to all you guys who read this, that I
am not interested into flame wars, drama,etc.... so please do not poison my
threads with stupid "community" comments and drama. I don't need negative
energy in my life
I come here in peace, and I am willing to share my knowledge with you, and
even maybe learn something here from you guys. As I strongly believe, that if
you can learn just 1 small thing from each person you meet, you will be very
wise man.
So if you want to learn from me, no problem, we will be friends, I will help you
as much as I can. If you don't want to learn from me, stay away from my posts,
threads, and we will be cool. There are many people on this planet, I do not
agree with or I don't like what they do (politics, wars...etc) but I don't attack
them, or molester them. Let they do whatever they want to do as long as its not
affecting my personal life directly.
Its stupid to waste your energy on negative shit like that. stay positive. be
optimistic, be happy.
Ranko?
I think he is OK guy, bad Businessman, but OK guy. Personally I have nothing
against him. He said lots of funny things, but in the end I think he learned allot
from it. I will sit down and hangout on coffee no problem.
Mode One?
I must say I was away for a while, so I don't know anything about this guy. I
met almost all of guys in community, but I never met him as a speaker on
conferences all over world, like Cliff List, Love systems, super conferences..etc
David X
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Interesting.
First, you have to understand that girls are Insecure creatures. In a history, they
were never more insecure then today. Lots of competition, beauty..etc
as they are insecure, to protect insecurity, they seek comfort from a group. Her
friends. Their friends have shit load of influence on them. They are "Online" with
each other all day long. They go to date, when they get home, she calls her
friends and debriefs whole date into every possible detail.
45 min date, she will analyse 1 hour on phone with her friends. I've been
listening my girlfriends for years. How many times I heard my girlfriend
saying..."I don't think thats guy for you... you want guy who will XX" and they
will actually tell them what do they want, and she will listen her. funny. Its a
group decision.
That's how do they operate. So If you read between lines here, you will
understand what I want to say here.
Yes if you want to reduce your flakes, you will have to talk with her friends.
In last 4-5 years, I tried everything.
From entertaining whole group, to not talking with her friends.. to isolating my
target on opener away from group..
I found out that Even you go direct on your target, and focus 90% of your
attention on her, Its very smart to talk with her friends as well. Its a flake
prevention mechanism. When she goes home, or when you eject, her friends will
say to her how cool are you, and how they support she goes on date with you.
Don't confuse this with Indirect. You are still very direct, but you are smart
Direct and you operate from Emotional Intelligence.
If you collect 5 phone numbers and 3 are FLAKE... bro this is problem you HAVE!
I am just saying, Instead of ignoring them, and this way creating ENEMY,
someone who will work against you later on, you talk with them, have fun with
them, and you will create ALLY who will help you penetrate Targets panties!
I love this, because even later in relationship, when I am flying around planet
(very often), she will go out, and she will have opportunity to have sex with
other guys. Its totally normal. You don't fuck her for 10 days she will be horny.
Some dog like me will "smell" that and approach her. As I am away, only one to
stop her from doing it will be her friends. That's why you have to get them on
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your side.
Here you have to be very socially Intelligent. Let me explain you what's going
on.
Just like her friends, her mother has lots of influence on what kind of guy she
will choose.
Of course daughter will hate guys mother will choose and vice versa.
Dangerous
Unpredictable
Sexy
Wild
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See problem?
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And then while chatting you have to go DIRECT on daughter
But you have to go through mother. ( it takes balls to do it)
Lets compare sharks I like you, I want to get to know you" Direct
And my version " You are so FUCKING sexy and I am going to get to know
you.... so tell me something about yourself.
Wow.
You are smart.
See I spent 4 years teaching guys how to do direct, and how to make seduction
direct on all 5 levels
1) Verbal
2) Non Verbal (Body language)
3) Intentions
4) Energy
5) Belief's
Bro you can bullshit whatever you want, or hate me as much as you would like,
but those 2 approaches below are perfect
EXAMPLE OF DIRECT METHOD APPROACH!
HOW TO BE A MAN
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoNJi3LPXHg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObNf5rTKwac
I dunno details about Paul, but I tried doing that years ago.
Flake ratio is high. You fuck 1 of 15 phone numbers you take.
Here is what happened
So to summarise, yes it works, but I didn't liked it, as I am more sniper shoot
method.
When I see girl I like.. I go for it, and I will do everything I can to get her.
And sorry, but I don't see 20 9's during 1 night.
You see one, or 2 super hot girl you like per night. And then you pull best game
you can to get her. That's me!
New York (city) is not that hard, If you live outside, I am not sure.. but city itself
I didn't fount that hard at all. Some cute girls in city. I will be in NYC end of May.
My % right now?
I am not big fan of collecting numbers ( I did it few times lots of them per night,
but that's not me. Sometimes its smart to just do extreme to see where are your
limits.
Numbers are low, because I play less and less club, and more and more social
circle game.
Less effort, more success.
No I wasn't always good with girls. we all had our learning stage.
I was OK with girls, during university, I had relationships, but I wasn't in control
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over them. As well, I had no skills to pull from club. So I started to work on my
skills. Yes it took me a while.
Breaking point was realisation that I get way more success by being jerk then
being nice. I realised, that :
the more Nice I am towards them, the more bitchy they were towards me
So I asked myself why the fuck should I respect or be nice to someone for no
reason? Just because she has skirt?
Naled,
If you want, to be able to seduce lots of different girls, (you want to be able to
play on whole scale), you cant always be Hard core yourself (new yourself)
In my game, I will be calibrating allot by the girl.
Being Nice / Selfish / Jerk / Romantic / Dangerous,
Each girl will need different amount of each thing. All of those things are ME.
Lets say, girl get dumped by some guy hard core. For next guy she will search
someone she can trust, more Nice version of me
If I choose I want her, I will play on that week spot. I will be nice, play on lots of
trust, but still be very direct.... but more " Nice direct"
You cant always be on ONE MODE of yourself. That's me and game over.
If you always play only one thing, you will always get just specific kind of girl.
If you just go hard core direct, without calibration, your game will be Hit & Miss!
There is no real game there.
Yup, lots of calibration again, you have to tune it down. I would be more direct
in conversation then on opening.
Looks + Energy!
Its very easy (at least for me) to separate one that look for long term
boyfriend/soul mate from girls who look for fun/party
There is no way you can learn this from posts/reading books! Its all about infield
experience. There is cultural factor as well.
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Delivery has to be slow, confident, but still playful. Fuck, you have to see/hear
the way I do it/say it. Its very powerful.
I hate numbers.
When you get her number, you are losing control over her.
But fuck it, we have to take number, and play this silly game.
I could probably write 2 books about SMS ^ phone game, so I will be short here.
rule 1) Timing.
Timing is everything in pick-up.
The shorter I am in set, the sooner I will send first text.
If I was there 5 min, as soon as I leave ( few minutes later) I will send her text
"Fuck, I miss you so much already name"
Goal, is to start texting asap, so there is no this moment when u send text next
day,and u are not sure will she reply.
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If we were talking about her cats, I will use sms to continue thread about her
cats, then more into something else...
Once I get some good rapport & attraction ( you can see that by length of her
messages and by delay between your and her message. shorter it is, the more
attracted she is to you.)
With time, they play lots of games, I don't have time now to talk about this, but
its very interesting topic... (you know when it takes them 2 hours to reply) I
found solutions for that as well.
Phone call. Once I build conversation over text, I will do first call, ( that's how I
avoid her not picking up phone, flakes, voice mail..etc... this way I am 100%
sure I will get her on phone).
This works, because she knows she has 10/15min to prepare herself for a phone
call, ( go to bedroom/get rid of her parents.. who fucking knows what she is
going at that time.. she may be even masturbating).
That's why, when you call her out of blue, you get decent amount of flakes (no
battery/ cant talk..and all other bullshit)...
On phone call, I do 10 minutes chat, going through topics I like, and then try to
set up meeting (date)
this routine works very well for me. Its smooth, there is no pressure. very
casual, but still I am in control!
There are lots of small things I do, but nothing huge that would be some fancy
strategy. I try to make this transition to see her as smooth as possible. No real
goals to seduce her or to get her to fuck me. Just to get her to coffee / date
The shorter initial meeting was, the longer it will take you go get her out of
house to meet her.
So if you talked with her 5 min, it will take you up to 2 weeks to get her out!
YES!
Its CHASE thing.
Every girl wants to be chased / seduced.... that you work to get her, so she is
not easy, you worked to seduce her. They will value this way.
Now, if she missed chase on initial meeting in club. She will make you chase her
over text / phone... and trust me, you don't want that. That sucks. She will not
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reply her texts, calls... etc.. even she likes you... she wants to be with you... but
still she must get feeling of chasing!
That's why I am saying... stay LONG in set.... as Long as possible. Talk with her
friends as well!
Even Direct opening +1 min + phone will work, and will get you number..
problems will start later on. 2/3 weeks to get her out to meet you. sorry. I don't
have 3 weeks to chase her.. I would rather spend 1 additional hour in club to
give her that emotion she needs.
1) Kino on opener?
Yes its more powerful and dominant.
Without it its weak.
See, that's why you cannot have RULES in pick-up Because every situation,
every set is different. That's why If-Then-Else methods cannot work.
I personally think that night game is totally different then day game. There are
some things in common, but very different.
Lets say like regular soccer (EU :football), and Indoor soccer/football
Now, In day game in theory best would be to move her to just one location
(away from meeting location) to build more rapport/connection.
Its proven that this move reduces % of flakes. Because she has feeling she
knows you. Its instant date, but it doesn't have to be date. If you meet her in
mall, move her for few minutes to one of stores.
Now, as life is fucked, not every situation is like that.
They may be in hurry, working, under pressure... who fucking knows... you have
to pull best you can in that situation. Its very hard to prepare Perfect pick-up at
home, and then execute it in field. This game doesn't work like that. I realised
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Usually I will open with something indirect/environmental. Direct is too hard core
for them on working place.
Now, you cannot run this from indirect frame, its not going to work. You have to
deliver this with power and dominance. This is command for her unconscious
mind what to do.
You can run this on any "girl working" environment. It takes 5/8 min
still there is a chance it will be flake. There is no method to but time.
That's how their brain is structured. Is she doesn't have 30min to get to know
you... she doesn't knows you....fuck it.
Some girls are scared as shit when they go out, (first few times of going
out),some girls are in bad mood during hight.
If that's the case, I will go in with something light. Music/environment/Hi...
whatever, it gives me more space to manoeuvre and to play with her emotions.
If you go direct on that kind of girl, in MOST cases you fail.
no DHV bullshit.
As for mixed sets,sometimes I talk with guys, sometimes I just take girl away
from set. It depends on lots of factors. How do I feel, how strong connection guy
has with my target girl. If he's brother of course I am going to talk with him as
well.
On other side, is he is chump who is driving her / buying her drinks, I will help
her to get rid of him (direct on her, and asap Isolation.)
On mixed set I usually spend 45sec to 1min observing outside what's going on in
set. That minute gives me lots of info how will I play whole thing.
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If I see he's boyfriend there is no way I will go direct on her.. (sorry, but this
cant work ) instead I will open him, and run my boyfriend destroyer game, to
get rid of him
Knowledge that me, Zan, and few more direct guys have, we are years beyond
their thing.
Because they started with Natural game only 2 years ago, while we spent those
2 years upgrading, polishing our game and method.
But really, Its hard to make a perfect method for groups. There are so many
factors to play with
1) their mood
2)inner Relationships
3)Competition
4)Does any of girls have boyfriends?
5)who if guy in group ( if he exists)
6)who is Leader girl
7)does target girl has boyfriend
8)how big is group
9)how much her friends have influence on target
Eye contact?
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US and Euro?
when US chicks fly to Europe they turn into biggest sluts on planet.... fucking 17
guys into 3 weeks, and she has a boyfriend she loves back into US??
But same thing happens with European girls flying to US.
so game doesn't count on those, but locals.
Bro, you are projecting too much sexual neediness, AKA...too needy.
Remember direct is expressing you want her, but not being needy!
This very sexual approaches they may work in some cities like Las Vegas..
where girls come to be fucked, and this will work very well. But on normal places
with normal girls, projecting too much of sexual energy on very beginning, it
wont work! You have to "get to know her first"
Those 3 months during summer its OK, as they are in "Party" mode. winter
sucks.
But most EU countries are like that. Austria, big part of Germany, France...
You really have to work to get in her panties. Actually, you have to project you
want to stay with her after sex.
Again I am generalising allot here. There is always a girl in a club, that wants to
fuck NOW.
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Check it out..
Cool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NfjcKm1YqE
See, In school/ social circle environment, you don't need that powerful weapon
(direct) as you need for clubbing
You can easily destroy social circle with "Gaming" attitude there.
hmmmm...
I seen it, and based from my experience on shooting hidden cam pick-ups, I
believe its fake.
I can guarantee you girls have been paid this of other way.
I am not saying its not possible to pull girl in 10 min, and fuck her.. it is.. there
are many horny girls walking down the street any fucking minute, and fucking
day. BUT remember, each that girl you fuck & shoot, you have to get her sign
you WAVER ( press release form) so you can use this footage for publishing.
Last summer me and Cortez, we were shooting hidden cam day game.. from 10
kiss closes, during 4 days, we got Permission/signature from 1 girl.
I even have 1 hour Direct pick-up from club, pulled her to car, and fucked shit
out of her, in front of club. My camera team, has everything on tape. Excellent
video + audio.
Do you think that 21 yo girl will give you permission/signature to post in on
YouTube/Internet??
Of course you can avoid permission, but then you risk lawsuit.
So even its possible to do this kind of think, my professionals view is that its
100% acted.
Just take factors that can happen, and that you don't want on tape, when
relaying on real situations :
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5)LMR can happen. You don't want that, its sucking down energy from whole
team.
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There are so many things you don't control with real girls, so If you ask me, I
would hire pro girls.
I think its good for specific type of girls ( party chicks who wants sex then and
there).
But I would never focus on this kind of game as my main game/main weapon.
As well, I can see it working in some countries with liberal sex culture, but I cant
see it working in most Europeans countries.
I have 5-10 blabla exercises to make guys talk spontaneous for hours. There is
no way you can do that one alone. It requires me as a teacher with you in a
room to do it.
Pussy.
Every girl has a pussy.
But bro, Its not about pussy any more I can get pussy. that's not problem. Now
its more girl, I choose to spend time with.
If I can choose ( and game gives me ability to choose), then I am going to
choose good sex girl but with no emotional issues, drama thing.
I have no tolerance on drama, crying, going crazy, and other things...
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I have a natural friend who can say with 95% correctness girl that's horny in a
club. Like, we would hang out, and he would say see this girl in that group... she
wants to fuck badly.
This guy has a gift. Its not something you can learn. He can feel them. Its
amazing to watch...Its nothing to do with IOIs, or any other visual indicators..
Its pure emotions he fells from them..hard to describe.
and all he does, is waiting for them to go to bathroom..once they go in , he
follows them, and I can say he's successful in getting blow jobs, fro his club
game. I never saw him doing day game
Most guys believe that 9's and 10's are super hard to get and that you need to
have ultra strong game. Which is not true. The Game you play on those girls is
just different. It’s not harder or easier, just different!
It’s the same effort and it takes same time, but the style of game is very
different. In some ways gaming 7's can be harder then 9.5's.
Let me explain.
7's and 8's – don't want a total chump – nice guy, they want a guy who is kinda
strong(Alpha), so they can rely on him(insecurity problem), BUT at same time,
she wants some kind of emotional connection with him(Rapport).
So your game needs to be calibrated so fucking good for those girls. You will
need to calibrate how dominant you are to get good Attraction, and how much
Rapport you need to pull her into bed. Every girl is going to be different. It's
very personal how much Attraction\ Rapport she needs. There are so many
factors that controls this ratio, and formula is complicated.
-Parents ( who is more dominant in house ) - they always search for a father
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role in future BF
-First sexual experience \ First boyfriend (for example, if guy was cheating her
she will search lots of rapport & trust in next guys who come, and less
Attraction)
-Last boyfriend (If guy was bad in sex, she will go for guys who are more
dominant, sexual.
-Her friends (her friends have lot of influence on her, and she will mirror their
value)
So probably now you understand why its not possible to tell how much attraction
or rapport she may need before you start talking with a girl. It’s almost
impossible to create prefect model that's going to wok in every case. That’s why
those 7's and 8's require a shit load of calibration.
Rule of thumb is that those girls need way more rapport then attraction.
CA - LI - BR - ATE
With very very beautiful & sexy girls, ( 9's and10's ) it’s a very different story.
FIRST Lets take a look what's happening in their life :
- Parents know how beautiful she is, and they treat her whole life as a Diamond.
- In a High School she is a Princess, and guys starting to hit on her left and
right. All guys want to have sex with her.
- Every time she goes out, guys are licking her ass, and do everything she
wants, as they think that's the way to get into her panties.
- All guys are super, super insecure around her, and treat her super nice.
-She finds rich Boyfriend (Sponsor) who buys her everything. He's fun for a
while, after some time she dumps him.
- When she asks for something she gets it!
Now you can see a problem. Everyone wants to create rapport with her, and is
super nice. So basically to be different, and to create attraction, you need to
break every possible rapport with her. And don't want to connect with her at all.
You need to be different then everyone else. You need to show that you are not
affected with her beauty at all, and you don't think she is special at all. You need
to be total selfish bastard.
This is part of game I love to play.
With those girls, there is no Rapport at all. She needs to create rapport with you.
On first sign that you like her and you want to connect with her may be a turn
off for her.
She knows she can get everything she wants, and when she start getting it, it
gets boring. So don't give her what she wants. Consciously or Unconsciously.
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10 : I think I want to live somewhere else, maybe New York, Or.. I dunno..
Africa maybe as well
Me : „ yea, go to Jungle, that's best for you.
10 : I like Xy
Me : I hate Xy
Its interesting. She will stay around you as long as you do this. I personally feel
very stupid being around those girls, But as for playing this game I Love it.
From time to time they will throw something very personal, like a compliment..
but its only a test on the unconscious level.
”You are so special, I love to be around you, no one makes me feel so sexy... I
like you, I cant stop thinking about you....“
Something like this will happen after you become very strong in her life, and you
think the game is over. You think she is yours, you got her. BUT
I made this mistake so many times. If you reply something like “I like you too.. I
am thinking about you as well“ If you do this its game over. You lost her. You
showed affection. You are just like all other guys.
This is super sensitive game with them. You can make only one mistake.
Its best if you just keep it rolling, and stay congruent with your original image.
Its very hard, but you must be total non-emotional dick with them.
Attitude to have is “She is just little kid that peed in her panties, and is crying
for attention.“
An Opener I love to use on these girls is, “Are you a Man or a Woman“ with a
totally serious face.
10's are not that hard at all when you are around them alone. The only problem
with 10's is you cant find them in regular life, and there are not enough of them
even at the best nightclubs.
Actually, on these DVDs I am showing several Kiss closes moves. for different
settings.
1)If she is on a dance floor (Kiss close with no words)
2)date Kiss close (when you sit down with her, and talk... sofa.... 1 move kiss
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close)
3)If she is against the wall (so many times you see girl in club leaning against
wall. talking with no one.( last one on this clip with black hair girl)
4)shhhh Kiss close... when she talks too much, you shut her up, close her eyes,
and kiss her...
5) My favourite one...( GIRL & Wall )..."Lets go get some drinks... and you lead
her towards bar, and then spin her against the wall, and make out session.
Being a player Its not only about going out and picking up hot girls. After a while
you will get bored, sick of clubs. Thats a time to start thinking about developing
good social circle and start getting laid through social circle. Its easier, its more
fun then going to clubs.
But, this is not a replacement method for going to clubs and picking them up,
this is not a replacement for your fear of approaching. This is an Lifestyle
upgrade after you develop good game. this is Next step you will do to get good
with girls.
Badboy :“ I don't go to clubs any more to get laid, my social circle can feed all
my needs now.“
As this game requires different mind set and attitudes then „Club game“ you will
have to change and bend your beliefs, and behaviour to make it successful.
Before you even start, you must get rid of that stupid PUA mind set *trying to
fuck every girl in your life* That mind set is not compatible with Social Circle
game. In social circle, there will be some hot girls, that you will not be allowed
to touch. If you will be able control your desires, you will succeed.
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MIND Shift.
Every girl has a inner circle of 5 -7 girls. They are usually same looking as she is.
If she is a 9' ( on scale of 1- 10) she will have friends who are in range on 8 –
10. Beautiful woman usually hang out with other beautiful woman. As they can
relate to her problems, and her lifestyle. Be smart and penetrate into her social
circle,
STEP 1 Go out
Go out, find some hot girl approach her, get her phone number. Here you still do
same thing as in normal pick-up, build attraction, create wide and deep rapport
and get her phone number. Do not Kiss her. Nothing sexual with her. Create lots
of trust She is going to be your female friend .A bait to get other girls. Female
friends you don't fuck
Few days later, call her, take her on date, do everything normal as girls you
usually date, have fun with her you can even pay for everything it doesn't
matter as you do not want to have sex with her. Try not to. There is going to be
a moment, where Kiss will be in air. Moment, where normally you would kiss
her. Now, you will miss that moment. Let this sexual energy between two of you
dies. Behave and act as she is your friend, and she will be. You can even tell
her: „ you know what, we are going to be a friends, I feel so good with you... we
can talk about everything“.
Now you will be the one who is „ Lets Just Be Friends“ her
Every hot girl dreams about having cool guy as a friend. Problem of hot girls is
that every guy on this planet is trying to get into her panties. Every guy, besides
you. You are different. Remember, you don't want her, you want her friends.
It will be very hard to stay cool around perfect 10 and not think about sex. Very
few guys on planet are able to do something like that. And those few guys are
blessed with beauty they get. In first few dates you have to show that you do
not want to date her, but you want to be friends. Have a evening coffee with
her, You have to Lets Just Be Friends her. Once you are there 50% of job is
done.
When you go fishing, if you eat your bait... how do you plan to get fish with??
The bigger bait you have, the bigger FISH you going to get!!!
9's will attract 9's, 10s will attract 10's
You will have to spend some money on her. She will cost you. Take her out on
dinner, movie. Spend some time and money on her. Treat her as you would
treat good friend.
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some bar, and then they go out. Let they meet at your place instead for glass of
wine, and then all you can go to clubs.
First few times they wont trust you so your Bait girl will come with only one or 2
friends. Bring some cool guy.
Do not hit on your social circle, but neither to new girls in your life. Instead
socialise with them. Let girls become relaxed in your house. Trust & comfort.
Go to club with them, and give them FUN. Let they enjoy you
First 'party' let it be small, few of girls, few of guys.
Make sure you male friends know, 'do not hit on them rule' -- Educate your
friends
Do not hit on them at first few parties, play cool male friends game. Your Bait
girl has to be and feel like a queen. Fulfil her needs. She will bring lots of hot
girls to your house later on.
What do you want is to make those 15-20 girls so relaxed in your house, that
they know they can get drunk, and nothing is going to happen ( no one is going
to fuck them) of course this trust is just an Illusion, as Harvest comes later.
At first few weeks, you have to play it as a Gay friends towards them.
You want to drink my wine?? You want to get some of girls we cultivated? No
problem. But make sure sooner or later you bring Bootle of wine to replace it.
Make sure as well to bring new girl to replace one you took/!
Fridge, must be always full, so everyone can feed themselves. That's rule of
thumb. All of my Male friends know it.
One thing I hate on parties, and that is those guys who come, and they think
they can drink for free, girls that are in that room are for free.. etc
Its note like that. When guy comes to party he doesn't come with any girl, but
has there to feed himself, try to not invite him again.
You don't need those kind of guys in your life.
Those guys do not understand, that every girl I have in my life( inner circle girl)
costed me few hundreds bucks. ( indirect cost, dinners, phone calls, coffee)... all
those things that makes her stay in your life.
Once you have good quality girls in your life, be careful with who do you share
them. You have to share them, being selfish and keeping it all for yourself wont
work as well. If you invite 15 girls at your party and its you alone there, it wont
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work, girls will smell what's happening. So you have to share your circle with
quality guys.
If you have top-quality guys ( your friends) on parties, that girls can meet, they
will love to come back to you, as they know place where they can meet excellent
guys.
Do not invite weirdos, community guys. You want socially-calibrated guys, who
are successful in their private life. Even better, get guys who have developed
their circle as well.
This is long term plan, but fuck it, once you create this, there is enough girls for
rest of your life.
I am sure you already know what I am talking about here, as at least you know
one person who is doing exactly this.
The goal, is to get together with guys like that, and share and combine circles of
groups.
In the end you want to have gather 3 baits who are 9's or 10's and get their
circle into your life. Each girl will get you 5 girls into your life. That means 3 X 5
= 15 hot girls.
So they arrive to my place, and Bait 2 introduced me to her hot girlfriend from
university. Yummy blond. I see she already heard all stories about me, and she
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likes me. She is my target for tonight I decided to take is slow with her. Just to
create more trust and comfort with her and wait till end of night. We had some
fun at my place, drank some wine, talked about XY, and went to club 12:30. I
got us on guess list, so we didn’t waited in line.5 girls, 2 guys.
Inside club, we partied, had fun, and I was building massive rapport with my
target. 3 am, we are all going home, and I told to whole group that I will drive
my target to her home. whole group is fine, as we are friends. When we got to
car, I asked her does she wants to have one more drink at my place ( she
already been there few hours ago, so its not a problem). We got home. Started
kissing, had sex. No one knew.
Breaking up.
Breaking up with one of girls from circle like walking on a thin ice. If break up
was to hard core, or you are cheating one of girls and your social circle finds out
that, there is a big chance you will lose girl and whole circle. They wont trust you
any more I did a mistake like this, and whole circle fall apart. So Be very careful
how you end relationships. Best way is to “ Lets just be friends them”. Tell them,
you think that you tried, but you feel this relationship wont work, or any other
excuse. When breaking up use word FEEL a lot. “ I feel there is nothing between
us” etc
If whole circle falls apart, don’t panic. Go out and find new bait, and start from
scratch. It takes you around ¾ weeks as to cultivate good social circle with 6/10
hot girls inside.
In the moment I am writing this text, I am running 4th Generation.
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That's why when you don't approach you feel stupid, because you are working
against your genes, your purpose on this planet.
So when she says " you want nothing else besides sex", she is saying she wants
relationship badly.
See, now I know what she wants,I know where is the gap, I know how to GET
HER!! In that moment, I will change my game from whatever I was playing to
game for emotional type / searching for relationship...CALIBRATION.
Less direct, deeper talking, lots of eye contact, slow down kino escalation....
talking about starts, soul mates, life..
This kind of thing ( game for relationship girls I teach on my workshops all the
time... Its to long to post it here... sorry
Its NATURE!!
I am using that info against them. Once I know what they want, and she just
said it, I know game I have to play to get what I want... SEX
I bought her some book while I was in states. so I told her, she has to take me
to cinema...
It was premier of sex & city. Boring movie, so I started making out with her..
In one moment, she grabbed my dick... movie is not even on half yet. I know, I
cant wait till end of movie, because it will dry out. I will loose horniness we have
in that moment. I took her hand from dick, and walked her out of cinema room.
so far Perfect. We are walking through mall, and she asks me... where are we
going (she knew we are going to fuck, but its her logic bullshitting again) I
said... " I am hungry" with a smile on my face.. she know what that means.
we got on -2 where we parked her car, got in and started to go crazy. When I
was about to take off her panties she stopped everything, and said :""enough for
today... you will get rest of things next time"
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LMR?? yes and no... I know its a issue of relationship, and anti slut defence.
3 days later, I saw her again, and we fucked, and then she told me " do you
know why I stopped us in car??"
"Because I wasn't sure will I see you again"
LESSON Learned.
Now, I implemented during first date talking how we going to do X Y next week,
so every girl will get FEELING that we will see each other whatever happens on
this DATE.
Bro, this is exact way how I designed my game.
I agree on video.
There are so many things that are part of this game.
genes, social programming, emotions, her friends you... boyfriend...million of
things we cannot predict... like period..
Hahaha.. I love those little dirty girls. they are so much fun to play with.
This is nothing about words and verbal communication. you cant fight with
words. Its all about frames here. who has stronger frame. as soon as she gets
you (you fall in her world) she loses interest. I don't meet those girls very often,
but there was this one girl... platinum blond. guys were eating from her palm...
that night I was her "NEXT Mission"
she saw me with lots of girls, and she wanted me to show that I cant get her...
so yea, sitting on lap is par of their "seduction process"
They have too much self esteem for a girl . that's their problem
So she started to flirt with me, she is sitting on my lap, I am ignoring her, I am
talking with her best friends...
She is asking for more and more attention ( playing with my cell phone, reading
text messages from other girls)
Me nothing.
I am not even playing hard to get. I behave like a little sister is sitting on my
lap.
I know if I continue doing it, she will get bored, as she is not getting any
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results...what they usually do is, they start playing with someone next to you to
make you jealous. ( best friend usually) so I knew that's the time to do my
moves.
Move 1
" I am thirsty, lets go get some drinks"
stand her up , take her by wrist, and started to walk towards Bar.
Move 2 while walking towards bar, there was clear wall on my right. ( on people
standing). so I spinned her against wall, her arms locked above her head, and
started to make out with her). I spinned her brutally, BadBoy style.
she was shocked. she didn't know what to do. Her game collapsed. frame
destroyed.
Full slow motion step by step guide will be on 5th DVD of new DVD box.
Bro, with girls you failed to fuck, there is no coming back..Or very very hard.
Once they crossed you in their mind.... there in almost no chance they will do it
with you ever again. Its interesting, but that's how they function. don't ask me
to explain, its complicated..
We have saying here in Croatia...."Granny with cookies, walked away"
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MOVE ON!
Bro,. your beliefs are limited and stupid (no hard feelings)
Really, nothing against you.. Lots of guys thin the way you do.
I will explain you what I mean.
First, Pain in relationships in not possible to avoid. It has to end someday. both
of you will be hurt, and cry. that's normal. especially if you loved her.
As for "lying".
I never lie.
I am always in back of mind searching for relationship. Searching for a girlfriend,
that will be companionship, and great lover. I had few, right now, no. I have
sex, and friends, but I don't have both in one girl.
So, lets say I go out tomorrow. I see sexy, good looking blond. I want to have
sex with her, because that's how she is dressed. Lets say she is EMO type, and
searching for a boyfriend. for me girl has to be good in bed ( sex) to stay in my
life.
I have to be able to talk with her, and be intellectual turn on by her as well.
The way I see sex is something we have to do to enter relationship. sex will
show are we compatible or not. I wont stay with her if she is not that good, just
because she may not be hurt. Its stupid.
Bro, I have nothing against them, I love them. But that's the game we have to
play. until you find girl, that's reflection of your dreams, or 2 of them.
For some you will realise that's not it, some will say nope... I don't like that
guy..
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On some doors, no one is home, some will fuck you off, some will accept you,
and you will like them.
Some doors will look cool, but you wont like people living behind those doors.
How many times, I wanted only to fuck girl once, and I end up in relationship up
to 1/2 years....
OK bro,
Situation is simple.
You have to appear more Human.
You have serious calibration problem.
2) Talk positively about ex-girlfriends. ( mention that you had few long term RL,
and that you like being in a relationship, but as well you like to be single, and
party around. And that you find this balance important. Yin/Yang
4) sex
That's where you have most problems bro. that's where you lose your girls.
you are just pure fucking them, that's why you never see them again.
You have to introduce more love into fucking.
- Long foreplay
- sex with LOTS OF EYECONTACT (creates intimate connection)
- Give her Orgasms. 1/2 per sex. INVEST your energy and time
- CUDDLE / PILLOW TALK
Very important,talk, cuddle, kiss during and after sex. This way you will create
lots of connection, and they will start FEELING something towards you!
Right now, you have sex only without emotions. You have to create emotions.
lay in bed, and talk, watch starts,hug her, let she sleeps in your arms..give her
warm feelings. Massage her before or after sex.
If you do so ( 1-4 ) you will project towards them, you are Relationship material.
Have fun & enjoy your life
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I agree its very hard to separate LTR and party girls, because they all have
moments, where they are opposite. Break up, revenge..etc
So all we can talk is moment...
In this moment as I am talking with you she is LTR...
Even the semi-party chick after watching Titanic, will become emotional and LTR
mind set for few hours maybe even a day. Depends on her frame.
So all we have is that moment when you are talking with her. Thats what all
matters. I cant really explain how do I recognise them, I just Feel them
somehow. Experience I think
As for sex. Oh yes, they will change her mind from 1ns to LTR after fuck... It
happens a lot.
Cortez is biggest example of that.
They will believe more when you are naked in bed with her, then GAME you play
in club ( are you LTR material)
You can even play Party game, high energy lots of attraction, to get her home,
and then switch to Love making for LTR...
and actually you will get her in LTR
Cortez just told me what his GF1 (3 years LTR) thought after initial pick-up
"what a idiot, I don't know why I gave him his number"
and same thing it happened to me.
You have to fit her criteria to fuck her that same night. But to actually establish
LTR, 95% of work is sex & after sex game (text,phone calls , next meeting)
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They don't function on Logic. our core is logic, their core are emotions.
See in your case is very clear what she wants. I had girls like that.
She wants to be TAKEN!!
See, that's big part of my game. Part where I am strongest, and where I get lots
of girls.
I TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT HAPPENS BETWEEN US (SEX)
By reading her behaviour its obvious that she wants you, but she expect from
you to do all of the work.
Shorter : she wants to fuck you, but she is not going to do the work.
I am not going to give you How-to details here, because that's what I teach on
my workshops.
Yes I know..
I have a good friend whose whole game is exactly this. He's Better then anyone
I met so far in PUA community, above Mystery, me, Zan.. TD.. you name it.
All he does is bathroom pulls.
But he can somehow smell it. not sure.
I can say which girl is horny, Or I can guess it.. I don't know, but HE.. he can
TELL.
"See this girl in 5 set.... she didn't got laid for 5 months, she wants it badly..."
He would wait till she goes to bathroom, and then follow her there. When she
goes to pee, he will jump in, take his dick out... suck it.. after 5 seconds of
shock screening, they do it.. |Amazing. RESPECT!!
This guy never had problems with bouncers.. girls never called police or
anything.
He's playing on their fantasies.
This is not bullshit, I saw him doing it few times in front of me.
His target screening is PERFECT. That's something I will never be able to do. I
wish I can get this element from him.
You will never get him to do sets...or approach. He made this thing work for
him, and that's all he does. up to Perfection.
Drink his beer, and wait till she goes to bathroom.
His secret? His been working as club stuff for 15 years... He knows those
girls...where they sit, when they are horny, what they do, what they drink.. He
know everything.
I am talking with him now, that he becomes one of my Instructor in BBL team.
He has lots of stuff to share, but he's not Internet guy. He hates it. I am sure he
is more qualified to answer your question... can you learn this skill. He learned
it. I am sure he has a way to do it.
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That's a deeper issue, I cannot talk about here, as I dot see what's the problem.
If I am in SET with you, and watch you there.... I guarantee, I could see what's
the problem, and how to fix it.
It can be literally anything...
Simple one for example : EYECONTACT.
I strongly suggest you get a trainer, and work with him 1x1.
Yes its possible to fuck them both at a time. But its one time deal. Once they
find out, its game over( in most cases)
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So its about building Attraction through older sister, and with flirting...(cute sexy
jokes) do not hit on her! innocent sexual flirting.
Still when you go out, build rapport with her. Talk, have fun...
Do a picnic with LTR, invite her sister (not because you want to do her, but to
build rapport, trust)
In her mind you BF of her sister and that's OK for start, but later that mind set
will start causing you trouble. Because you are "sisters Territory's"
So, at one point, you will have to see start seeing her without LTR.
Problem will happen, If you connect yourself 100% with her older sister.
Its same scenario when you want to fuck your LTR social circle friend.
Here is what you do
see LTR every 2 days
chat, flirt with sister every so and then (you will see her 1 x week probably)
very light flirt at start.
Do not use phone number you have, you will use it at 2nd stage
be with LTR mostly.
After 2/3 weeks do some event together. Picnic, party, club, museum, rafting,
whatever. Outdoor preferred. make sure you can talk with whole group, and
people separately.
Invite few friends,and tell your LTR to bring her sister 5/7 people all together
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During approach, and whole first meeting, she was driven by adventure thing.
She felt excitement, adrenaline. They love to be around a confident and
dominant man.
I think you did very good first part, but you failed to build more trust (open
yourself to her) share some secrets, things from your life. CONNECT with HER.
That will give her excitement, and additional push/ desire to meet you next time.
example, holding hands during dinner.(over table, long eye contact(soul gazing)
you failed to build it. Mistake 1!
After that meeting you were still a STRANGER who she met yesterday.
Mistake 2. without enough rapport that day, you tried to get her out of house to
meet you... and by doing it 2ce you became NEEDY.
LOL...
Read between lines... Lets meet, kiss, and fuck..
Bro, girls do not work this way, they are not linear like we are... step1 step2
step3 step4.
Because they are driven by emotions, they cannot continue on step 5 out of blue
like we can. Cause she may come, be pissed off that day, hate life, world, and
you on that world as well, and you are back on step1.
I would say something like, " blahblshblah... I don't know why, I just love talking
with you, lets meet one day over cop of coffee and Talk... is Tuesday OK with
you?"
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Lets sum :
1) after meeting girl, text her for few hours/days to build comfort
/connection/trust, and then invite her out.
Don't try to get her back, you lost this girl, stop terrorising her... find new victim
Text with her during day. ask her how her day is.... anything... COMMUNICATE
with HER!!
She is cool girl, but I don't want to lose freedom during summer, I don't want to
be in relationship during summer (summer is for fun)
So If you like your girl, and you are cool being her boyfriend, meet family, and
make your relationship "official"
Yes they know what I do. But I do seminars for girls as well. (teaching them how
to seduce, understand boys), find quality guy for relationship.
If you plan to fuck other girls there, why the fuck you bring your LTR there?? for
social proof?? to make it easier??
It will be harder not easier.
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I did this type of things few times, where I was centre of attention of whole club,
and my LTR was there. as she was supper attractive blond, it gave us even
bigger social proof.
But what I did, I let my wing run the show. I was pulling girls to table, having
fun with them and my LTR, and then let my wing close them.
I pulled aside, and let him be the star.
then if I liked some of the girls, I would make him call them and invite them to
one of my parties, when LTR wasn't there, so I can close them/her
You all been in this situation...date , and everything is going perfect. but in the
end when you go for fuck, she puts lots of resistance, and I kinda lose interest
as well.
Basically problem is not your game, as whole community thinks. Main problem is
GIRL NEEDS TO PREPARE HERSELF FOR SEX. they are not like we guys are. stick
out your dick any time in the day, and put in some mouth/pussy. they need to
prepare body for sex. shave legs, shave bikini area.. and few other things....
So they will come on date 1 & 2 totally unprepared for sex to happen, even in
back of the mind they want it.
But most guys (97%) on this planet, will date them for months before sex will
happen. So she thinks she has a time...Lots of time to prepare herself.
And then trained guy comes, he knows how to escalate fast, how to make her
horny. He does all those things in just few hours, things normal guy does over
few months.
When this happens to me, and it happens allot recently. I stopped pushing
hardcore for sex same day. Its stupid. she is not comfortable in her body. Even
if sex happens, it wont be so good.
So what I will do is, I will escalate, and while making out start touching her
pussy over jeans/whatever she is wearing.
I will end there. I wont go above if I see problems will appear. sometimes, they
wont let you hand in panties, but they will be OK you touching her over
pants/jeans...
I wont go beyond this point. I will end there. kiss more... have fun but I wont
push it. I will wait next time
"Plant the seed"
So next time when she comes, she knows... she knows what's going to happen.
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she will come ready, shaved, perfect smelling. Because with my actions I said
what I will do next time.
What I like about this method, is.... If she comes next time basically she agreed
she wants to have sex with you. Otherwise she will never come.
Her coming to Next date (In my case Date 2) is biggest IOI I can get. If she
comes on date 2, I know she shaved pussy, and prepared everything to have
sex with me.
It happened to me few times, that I digged myself out of shit after ending Long
term relationship.
I am not sure what happens, but its guarantee that 1year / 2 year relationship
with one girl will destroy all your game, and confidence you worked on.
"Pause" is possible on 1-6 months. after 6 months if you don't HUNT, you will
start losing it.
What I do is, I am with girl. But I still talk with other girls, have fun with my
boys, wing them, help them. As I am sexually satisfied, I don't need to get girls,
but I help them... this way I get motivated, and still practice my skills. And still
be in happy relationship with that girl.
You don't lose logical knowledge, but you will lose (dominance + male energy )
and Reaction time.
Now, reaction time is very important. you know feeling when you are in zone,
and words get out of mouth without thinking. that's what you lose
that 1 second.
In Tennis world
Difference between top 5 and 100 is that 1 second. Seduction is same
Club
hmmmm.... I can write book about club topic.
Impossible to put this in one post. so I will write only few things.
1)If she is with her friends, talk with group before you choose your target.
If you are trained by me or someone else, you can go direct on target, and take
her away(Instant isolation).Otherwise, open a group, talk with group few min,
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2)good resonant Voice is important for clubs. if you have problem with voice
work area that's not that loud.
Let them Lean in towards you when you talk.
3) stay away from dance floor if you don't know how to dance.
If she wants to go dance with you, do it even you don't know how to. ( its a
signal that she wants to get physical with you)
4)you have to be smooth and slow on outside, but very fast and reactive inside.
Club is very fast paced environment. there is no time for thinking. Think later
5)don't stand whole night at one position. move her around club. go to bar, get
some drinks, move her outside, then inside, sit down....Keep her body and mind
busy.
She is expecting from you to do everything. her job is to stand there. your job is
to do everything else. Including taking her panties off.
God Bless ones that are active in seduction. They are rare.
LOL, I never saw club like that, but to answer your question.
Discussing an open relationship with a girl so you can fuck other girls, is low
status move.
It means guy is not player. and very few girls will logically accept this.
why?
Lots of my relationships where at point when girl said "I don't care for other
girls, as long as I am number 1"
I found that almost every girl will accept you having other girls... as LONG you
don't rub her nose against it.
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"You can do whatever you want with other girls, but I don't want to know about
it, neither my girlfriends."
Its funny, when they see they cant change you, tame you, they give up, and
accept you the way you are. Strong Inner game some would say.
So if you have to negotiate with a woman your relationship, how ever its going
to be, that's weak.
Ss for opening, go to YouTube, and search for badboylifestyle. That's how you do
tables.
2)your opening is wrong. It wont work. too direct, but cheap direct.
Indirect, then transition to direct after 3 min works better for day game. Field
tested all over planet. Including Montreal
Bro, since very beginning, I am against clubs. Whole stupid community got into
whole club is the best. Most of clubs sucks for pick-up!!!
I am big fan of day game. you don't get ONS, but its more consistent on getting
pussy. More quality chicks.
As for clubs.
I have 2 clubs, that I love. and whenever I want some fun, I go there, I know I
will get it.
OK, lets talk about what you need in good club :
1) Space. It has to be big
2) high-energy / Low energy balance. dance floor, but still some places where it
not so loud, and its low energy.
3) not so loud music
4)couches/ tables, places where you can sit.
5) 2 bars, or bar & cocktail bar
6)Patio
7)accessible with car (so you can park car in front of club) very important for
ONS
8)good program on work days (Monday-Thursday) Friday/sat can be too
youngish/ too party.
9) not too crowded
Now, I am describing perfect club. It takes you years to find something like that.
I grow up as a player in worst club environment ever. That's what makes me so
good as well.
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Summer : Beach/Parks/Lakes
Rest of year : Malls
Choose hi-class expensive malls if you have.. where girls do lots of window-
shopping.
If you don't have, normal malls are OK?
How long? 2h max
muttley,
Good one
That's exactly how they think/behave when they love you. If they are getting
what they want from you (attention, love, sex... etc) they don't care for other
girls.
My girls believe I get new girl each time I leave my house. which is not true. But
still when they come to me, I hug them, give them love.
I don't pick-up other girls in front of them ( unless they ask me to do it OR I
want to make them Jealous/spice up our sex life.
Overdrive,
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Not sure what I will do, that's why I am in silence with this product.
I have it here on my desk, but there is big option, I will use this product, for new
upcoming project I am doing ( totally outside badboylifestyle).
Dunno, when I decide, I will tell you...
I know I wont make that much money because of kazza/torrent.... so this other
option sounds much better for me. We will see
I establish 1x1 connections, and then bring them to event. but not in all cases.
girl brings 2 other girls I don't know to event. I will establish rapport then and
there.
As for malls, I don't rotate malls. I have 1 that's excellent. and I use that mall all
the time. for myself, for training other guys. I am there 2x a month.
Overdrive, you were close, but I am not sure you are there(level of seeing it) to
explain it in details.
I will try.
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Now, not all girls have female energy. Neither all guys have male energy.
How many times you meet guys with female energy? you know what I am
talking about.
Lots of girls in UK for example, walk, talk and behave like a Man, they have lots
of male energy.
Nothing against you UK guys.
We all met girls with good Female energy. Those are best girlfriends. I enjoy
being with them. You know how it feels to be around them.
So you start dating, you feel attraction is there. you can FEEL it. your energy
and her energy connecting. BOND. she will feel great. you as well. you been
there. Its usually first few dates.
But if you don't take action, you wait, that energy will disappear. not exactly,
but she will get used to your energy, and she wont feel that your Strong Male
energy. and sexual chemistry will be gone. Only words will stay... Logical
connection.
Its like driving fast. when you speed up from 100.180. you feel speed, you feel
adrenaline, but only for few minutes, then you get used to 180 and its normal.
No attraction any more
Its Plato problem as well. you cant stay on one point too long.
If you wait too long to move from Kiss to tits you will fuck up
If you wait to progress from tits to pussy to long, you will fuck up.
If you wait too long from first sex to next meeting, you will fuck up.
hmmm...
See, I never discussed those things with me girls. Yes my girls have guy friends,
but I don't see them as a competition.
This is simple.
as long as she is happy with me, there is no chance any other guy will get her.
Hardly.
Simply because they have no need for other guys.
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In real life, there is not that much of talking I do with them about relationship.
for some reason, they are not making any problems to me. I never had those
things happening.
Probably I am doing something ( inner game wise) that I cant see/ I am not
aware of
First, its not 80%, that's bullshit real number is around 30-40%.
On 10 girls, 3 you cant make them cum.
Lots of girls can get orgasm when they masturbate, but problem start around
guys
First, mental.
Remember that their orgasm starts in their HEAD not in PUSSY.
Lots of girls can orgasm just with thinking about something, without touching
herself!!!!
1) Lots of girls are fucked up with new - in depended woman bullshit. " I don't
need a man to be happy"
when she has an orgasm its a surrender for her, saying man is controlling my
mind/emotions/my body.
Lots of girls love to be in such a control, but feminists....ughhh...
2) Trust.
Because this is the most intimate thing woman can share with you, some of
them need to feel LOTS LOTS of trust and connection.
3) Technique.
Finally.
When they start masturbating ( I assume around 14-15yo), they choose their
technique. Pressure fingers yes/no.. palm, clit..
and they can only orgasm if you do exactly same thing.
Let them teach you with your hand how to do it. Learn.
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So, In most cases, Its nothing to do with us, its their mental fuck up problem.
Maybe,
but I don't have problems with that at all.
but yes, they use jealousy to see how much you care of them/ how much you
love them.
LTR : " I am going out tonight"
Me : "Excellent! Have fun"
LTR : "we are going to party allot, maybe there will be some boys.."
Me : "cool, you deserve to be social... I know you will have fun"
Like yesterday.
Guy tried to get phone number from my girl when she was on University. she
told me story. even I don't really care, I told her...
"If he did it in front of me, I would kill him."
See Jealousy is all about losing her/ feeling who has more options...
at least that's how I feel it. that's how its triggered in my body
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When I was dating a model, 9.5... and she was all over place, dates, dinners,
meetings.. and I was waiting her to get home. (that was long time ago) .. I felt
jealous. I loved her, I felt I can lose her... as she could replace me...
Today I still love them the way I used to love... but now, I am on meetings,
trips, dates, dinners... and she is waiting home..
After me, they always ( its a pattern) they choose Mr Nice guy.
Its hilarious to track their life after break up.
they choose guys who are :
- Predictable
- Always at home
- That's easy to control
- Does what she wants
- Have a normal life
- doesn't travel too much
- someone who respects her
I always keep track of what's going in her life after me (through my friends/ her
girlfriends..).. I just love to do it, Its interesting to watch the way they progress.
Usually they find that nice guy after me, and he's interesting for a while ( few
months) and then they get bored of him...
Makes them unhappy allot. they cant understand what exactly do they want.
Its a pattern.
Yes,
When u get LJBF-ed ...withdraw for few weeks, even months (few days are not
enough to destroy rapport you built).
And then try again.. as you said, make her feel something strong, and then push
it till end.
So, I know I had to play with my brain. so I made it very hard for my brain/
body.
I started to date 4/6 girls simultaneous... just to see what my brain will do. will
it be able to fall in love with all 4 in same time??
Nope.
I think I disconnected that autopilot by doing this, and how, I feel something
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just with very special girls. I think I am very emotionally balanced now.
As for staying friends with exs, with most of them yes I do. But Its easier to say
it, then to do it.(emotions on both sides), bad breakups... and other issues
What you are learning now, is emotional and social intelligence (what lots of
guys(geeks) never cultivate). that's essential skill for seduction/ pick-up
Now university game and cold approach in club are totally 2 different disciplines
like Running 100meters, and running marathon. You don't have to be Best at
both.
Be good, be decent.
In last few months, I got 1 girl from club ( cold approach), 1 girl from social
circle, few girls from facebook, 1 girl I met in supermarket....
Have plenty of leads!
So those girls you have now, keep them as a friends, do not try to fuck them * if
they push first, then do it, Otherwise you will fuck up circle), and you will have
to start from scratch. Harder as circles are already developed as you can see.
Don't force them to be 100% around you. Let them sit next to other girls, talk
with other people, that's how your circle will get bigger
Hot girls, attract other hot girls.
Do a party, let them invite their girlfriends, and then HARVEST STARTS.
Its nice to see that actually someone is using my Uni method. Its a pure gold!
Yes...I just wanted to say, that he's very different then other Puas in
community, more like me, not typical ,mechanical player. more as guy who
enjoys ~female company and energy.
He was in Croatia visiting me few months ago (July) so we spend lots of hours
talking about advanced stuff that's way beyond community.
Bro, this is risky game. Its impossible to avoid drama with juggling multiple
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girls.
eventually, you get good at handling it.
You fucked yourself up with not taking photo.... ( projecting hiding something)
I said million of times with 9's and 10's little mistakes like this and its game
over.
They have low or zero tolerance. They been hurt lots of times.
I have a date with super hot girl in 30minutes, so I am in the mood for 'no
mistakes game'.. so killing some time online.
Problem NO2. she is probably searching for BF. not fuck buddy! that's where you
ruined your chances.
When I smell she is searching for BF, my answer will be shaped, so she can see
opportunity to be with you.
You I didn't said I have or don't have GF. but answer is good enough to CLOSE
that painful topic!
But again, make it look like you are with your LTR, but there is nothing between
2 of you...so she sees chance to take her spot.
hmmm,
Its a part of being a player. Emotional wussy cannot be a player.
see If you don't dump them, they will dump you... you will feel that emotions
either way.
Being a player is being a selfish sometimes. people may not like it, but if it hurts
you too much, this game is not for you.
You cannot break up with her without her feeling bad afterward. That's how they
are designed....by nature. They search for one, and build emotional connection
with one, we search for many.
I know emotion what you feel, and to answer your deeper questions
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Yes she will recover sooner then you think and find new guy sooner then you can
imagine.
Yes she is able to continue life without you. and she will be just fine in few
months.
See woman go through break up stage much faster then we guys do. Their side
is more intensive and filled with more emotions, but its shorter.
Look, our reality and motive are far different then woman reality and motives.
I disagree that you have to LIE on every question.... that's stupid.
But there are some situations where you have to say what she wants to hear
otherwise she will freak out :
But its not what she wants to hear, its what's socially acceptable to say :
example 1)
example 2 :
why do you want to meet my Lesbian girlfriend?
My answer : "Because she has a different views on life and love, and I would
love to see how does that affects her life.... I like to meet different kind of
people.....blahblahblah"
HI.
This is very common situation.
You are trying to invite her to "done deal" as they say. Basically, she is
interested into you, but she doesn't want just to bring her pussy to you, and
fuck.(even she actually wants that, but she cant do that thx. to social
programming).She wants seduction, chasing, the whole thing.
so even she wants it, she will feel easy if she just comes over.
So what you have to do is : Invite her to some social gathering. Coffee, then
date 2 Cinema...
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You can do that only when you are in position of Ultimate power over
person/group. Like rock star / superstar.
I managed to do this several times, but only when I had 10-15 girls in room
wanted to fuck me, then as a being in position of ultimate power, I was able to
say whatever I wanted, and still get away with it.
In regular situation, you gain power over her once you fuck her several times
haha, no its not a test. Because its I know it used to happen to me all the time
till one point, and then it stopped forever. I dunno what point it is,
but I know what are you doing wrong.
Last minute flakes are always related with sex expectations....you are doing
something wrong, that she thinks sex will happen when you meet/you are
pushing too high pressure on her. Its like she wants to meet you, but at same
time she is afraid / not ready / its too fast.
Trust
If you ask me its the most important element in today's scared female world.
They been never more insecure in a history then today. you will never get her
out of venue if she doesn't trust you, she will never take her panties off if she
doesn't trust you.
Opening yourself up with stories, funny things that happened to you, share some
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Vulnerability ; I think that;s what you lack. You are trying to play Mr Perfect,
and that;s not what they want. You have to show you are human, you have
emotions, that you are not perfect. By showing her your weaknesses you are
displaying you don't care about her and outcome, which will create deeper
attraction, and her willing to bond with you.
Leading ; on other side by leading you are displaying your power. Making
decisions instead of her, will show her she can relay on you. Very important for
trust building.
Spending time ; the more she gets to know you the more she will relax and trust
you.
Physical Comfort.
Its part of rapport, because the more she is comfortable with your touch, the
more she will open up, let her guards down and connect with you.
so, first you have to start touching on hands/palm (1), then with a time your
touch has to progress up on shoulders (2), so you have arm around her while
you sit with her.
1 & 2 can be under a 3/4minutes
3, is a kiss close, once you have arm around her, its a perfect position to kiss.
4.kissing her will give you access to kissing neck, tits. neck is 4.
notice how escalation first goes up the arm to mouth, and once you kiss her,
BTW, mouth is breaking pint to start going down (neck/tits/pussy). You cannot
play with her titties if you didn't kissed her.....
guys who are needy, and GREEN will try do do all 7 in a place where they meet
her, club/bar for example. that's so stupid!!
Pro player will wait....so do not go further down then mouth(kiss) in a club.
wait till for execution 5-7 until you are in a venue where she will be comfortable
naked ( venue where sex is possible). Club is so not for it!!
and finally
Conversation : point I think you have most problems ( I think)
you have to go through several topics to create that connection with her.
Hobbies
Music
Sports
Relationships
Childhood
Vacation
Food
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You will have to go deep into the topic ( 3-4mins per topic)
the key is to ask as less questions as possible while talking with her.
do not try to build conversation with zillions of questions. instead tell stores.
after each story to tell she will have urge to tell her story about same thing. AND
THAT'S STORY EXCHANGE, THAT'S HOW YOU BUILD CONNECTION WITH A
PEOPLE! your story/her story, your story/her story,
structure :
Open a topic with question
ask sub question to get more details about topic
Tell a story
she will reply with her story in 80% of cases
example :
what kind of music you listen?
lkjlkj
so I assume your favourite bend is xy then? isn't it?
no, its xxxx
really?? because my favourite band is.....blah blah blah, and several years ago I
been to this concerts.. blahblahblah
Keep story long, and juicy with details, and she will want to tell you her side of
story.
Now, I gave you enough things to make it work, but If not enough, you
will have to sit down with me, and let me run you through several exercises to
fix your rapport once forever, because I cannot write things I would do if you are
here. One little detail like not holding intensive eye contact can be a core of
whole your problem with rapport. DETAIL. we have to find that detail and fix it.
you wont fix it by reading stupid forums!
Soon, soon, there will be this DVD set out and my new book.
I am working on several projects outside pick-up and that's taking most of my
time, February, march we will release it.
Nope,
Chemistry is their word for Attraction.
Little bit of push-pull, ignoring, let her chase you... and that's it.
Logic is very simple : they make decision will she be with you or not WITH
EMOTIONS, if there are no emotions towards you (butterfly's/chemistry), she
wont choose you.
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Hehe
So once they find Alpha guy, that gives them all they need : Power, stability,
good sex, Confidence, they will keep their mouth shut to keep you in life.
They are afraid if they bullshit too much, they know they will lose you.
I said many times that every girl in your harem should know she is
1) Special
2) Replaceable
If your frame is strong enough, and you actually sucked her into you life (some
guys live in woman frame, they visit her home for sex, etc) where her rules
apply. So if you have strong dominant frame, she has to accept everything, and
once she sees that's who you are, she wont try to change you, because she
cant. Problem happens for all those weak guys out there, that they will shape,
twist, and do all kind of bullshit with them. and guys will eat all of it.
"If you don't fuck her in 4 dates/meetings, probably you won't ever!!
On first few meetings, by creating some attraction & good Wide & Deep Rapport,
she felt Intimacy with you!
she created once or 2 times a opportunity where you should kiss her. Now do
not expect she will do it, that move is OUR JOB! You didn't kissed her, even she
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wanted it, and by doing so, you sent a message " You want to be friends".
Its all about creating Lots of Rapport/Connection, : talking about stuff, problems,
hobbies, sex..etc, but you do not build sexual/physical attraction this way.
again do not blame her.
Once you are friends, you are friends! no way out. Once she start seeing you as
a guy without dick, ( non sexual) Its very hard to put dick back into picture!
bro, Inside friends zone, she sees you as a her Girlfriend, she can talk about her
problems, and have coffee! NOT A MAN!!!!
You had opportunity to escalate, to kiss her, you missed it, and you still pushed
more and more meetings, with each meeting you were deeper and deeper into
shit!
Do you remember first or second meeting, where you felt some energy between
two of you? There was something between 2 of you. That was a moment, to do
something about it/ Kiss her/ Fuck her. You didn't acted based on that emotion
you felt, and both of you got comfortable with that emotion. That sexual emotion
disappeared, and you become friends!
Bro, you have to learn how to escalate, how to go for the Kill, otherwise this will
be happening whole your life.
Its just a business. I am searching for a partner in Poland, and we will see how
they will do the job.
Every girl I get to bed, I anchor peak of orgasm to the hips bone. do it 3X in a
row, and she will remember it for years...
Next time I see them..just touch that cute place... hehehe I love it.. I been
doing that to all of my girls for 5 years now.
It works, and its brilliant!
So I guess, yes there is NLP in my life.. heheeh
Enjoy.
Don't be like a girl....... " I feel this, so I can do that" that's how girls operate.
Making life decisions based on feelings ONLY.
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Bro if you want something, go and do it. Life is the way you make it. You will
have as many girls in your life as many you bring in your cave.
I don't feel any Adrenaline on 2 7's in a club that I am working for a 3some...
but I know once they are in my bedroom I will feel lots of happiness....
4) Kiss her on 2nd half of the day2. go through a 2 venues with her ...2X45min
(total 1.5/2 hours)
5) work out logistics, so your home/car is close and its logistically OK for you to
fuck her.
some girls will be easier ( read first date to have sex, some date 2/3) Calibrate
by girl.
6) If she pulls home, set up day 3, and go for kill with better logistics.
enjoy.
Bro, the reason why I asked that is because I played that game long time ago...
Brutal honest.
that's why I asked you..... forget the theory you wrote... on paper lots of things
sound cool. Its all about can you make that work, and how long can you keep
your girls in that world.
You are young, and still very inexperienced, IMHO you have to go through 3-5
Ltrs over year, and then get back to game, to truly understand some deeper
things, and get clear picture of what's happening.
I had lots of concepts like that, LOTS, and yes some worked, some not, some
worked, but it wasn't good model for LTR. or Multiple handling multiple girls.
The main problem I had with things you are trying now was I was loosing way
too many girls in first 45minutes. If they accepted frame, that was OK...
But bro, besides their emotions, LOGIC is still in the game big time...
I will tell you from 10+ years of experience in this game that there is market for
this, and yes it works on some girls..... but you wont fuck allot....
Remember one thing.... Player never talks that he's player... no need for
bragging. Talking about it makes you lose value. You have to BE a player, not
talk about it.
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If your progress is too slow, or you are stuck with results you have find someone
to help you with it/work with you. That is fastest way I know to get good very
fast. There is certain number of mistakes you have to make with girls till you
start getting good results. Not only mistakes, but find solutions for those
problems/mistakes as well.
IMHO best way is to learn on your own, like I did. go out and keep trying,
analysing mistakes, each time trying to preform better and better. I did this way
because I had no one to learn from back then. on other side, nowadays its
stupid to spend so much time discovering everything alone, as things are
already discovered by me, and other guys. Its like you are trying to teach
yourself tennis, ALONE!
As for experience, that comes with mastery, with doing it, being active... My
experience is priceless, as I've been living with 2 BI girls for year together,
dated lots of girls, being in all kind of relationships /
monogamous/open/Multiple/Harem....I tasted & tried everything that exist.
That's where my experience comes from!
Same you have to build. But Its useless if you cant get the girl. Find someone
who will put you on road of seduction, show you quick and useful tips & tricks,
so you can start building your life experience and live fully.
Carpe diem bro.
If she doesn't reply.. Its a sign of not enough attraction/rapport.. ( Problem with
Initial approach).
Her not replying your messages she is actually saying = " I don't want to talk to
you/ I am not interested into talking with you! "
bro, ask yourself why doesn't she likes you??? (here lies problem, and answer to
your question)
Once you reach sms/phone chasing, and she goes silence....there is not much
you can do...any new try you will be more and more needy ( I know you can feel
that)!!
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You are asking me.. what to do after you crash your car....
No no no ...
2nd date is easy...but progression to 2nd date has to be smooth. so you don't
feel needy...
I usually start talking during 1st date,how we should go to cinema next time, as
this new movie came out.. blahblahblah.....
In most cases, they will agree, say its good idea, and its been long time since
she been last time in cinema...If you did OK job so far(1st date), and she likes
you, she will accept cinema 100% ...
Agreeing to cinema, she is actually agreeing to continue seeing you ( dating)
If she starts bullshitting, Problem is with your date1, either you are boring, she
cannot see herself with you, she wants to end it then and there. If so date2 will
never happen! I totally understand them. Its like a fat girl coming to your date1,
and trying to arrange date2 with you... "sorry, I am busy" hehe
then during date 1, stop talking about it, change topic, leave it in "air"... and on
the very end, before you leave her.... "you know, this was fun, I enjoyed your
company... so are we doing cinema on Friday? (give her 3/4 days from date1 to
date2(cinema)
Trying to arrange date2 to your/her place directly may freak them out as its
obvious sex. Transition is not smooth, and you will lose some girls in that
transition.
This game is all about being smooth... the more smooth you are,(it makes them
relaxed) the more relaxed they are to have sex with you..
Actually, I don't need to see him with girls at all. Just by talking with guy I can
smell how good with girls he is. I think its because I can see him through my "
girls eyes".. I can see him the way girls are seeing him.
7 years of teaching guys
I see through you..
Nope, you cuddle, watch movie together.....listen music.. have fun.. downplay
sex, and show you didn't wanted to have sex only....Have fun with her..and then
proceed date2 as per normal.
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Training will take place 7 days and 7 nights.. But don't count you will sleep a lot.
Actually, you wouldn't be allowed to sleep more then 2-3 hours a day. Training
schedule will be extreme, super extreme. Its going to be 20 hours of
training/sarging per day. you will be pushed into sets all day long, you will be
given an envelope with your mission for each day THAT you will have to
accomplish. Missions like Instant date/One night stand/ 5 kiss closes in a row/
get 3 blow jobs..etc
and You will have 24 hours to accomplish your Missions...
and
Probably that sounds too much for your skills right now, but remember, Its a
summer, girls go wild, they are there to Party, to have fun, to meet summer
love, to have sex...... so It really shouldn't be THAT hard.
then from 11AM-2pm we will hit - day game (street/ Beach/coffee's, stores)
Lunch
3pm-7pm on the beach there is huge After Beach party ( see Video), we will be
doing that each day. Here you will be trained to sarge one of loudest clubs in
Europe. If you ever had a problem with loud clubs, after this you wont ever!
Zrce Beach, has 4 big clubs, no fees no lines/Q's so you can move from one to
another in seconds.
Evening seminar + dinner 8pm-12pm
and then back to Clubbing 12-7am
The moment you get there, you will be given local sim card for your phone, and
that's how you will communicate while in Croatia. You will needed for calling girls
from night you meet before, hooking up with them on beach day after, etc.
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Each person will have assigned Wing-man, so you will work in couples in most of
the time. When there is no Instructor/trainer next to you, your wing will be
monitoring you and reporting your progress to trainer. same thing you will be
doing for him.
WATCH THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO CLIP :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGipseZUcCM#lq
This will be something you will remember for rest of your life.
Just imagine sarging for 48 hours, without any sleep.... set to set....
Usually what happens, your brain goes to zombie mode, like an autopilot, and
you stop thinking while picking up girls, you just do it.... Its beautiful.
after this training, you will never ever feel any approach anxiety in your rest of
your life. You will be really pushed to limits of Seduction.
We will teach you DNA - all models of DNA, but we will focus allot on Aggressive,
because that is designed for that kind of party places.
We still don't know how many people per group will we take, probably not a lot,
due to logistical problems.
There will be 5-6 trainers 24hours a day available with a group. Me (Badboy),
Cortez, Marius, and new guys I will introduce soon.
This is not like a regular workshop, where you have seminar then infield, this
training goes 24 hours per day. when I will be sleeping for 2-3 hours, Cortez and
other instructors will be working with you/students...there will be always
someone around you..
If you decide to sign up, and participate this crazy training, BBL team, will help
you will bookings your flights/accommodation/transportation, and all other
things you may need, you will be fully able to relay on us.
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Kiss closes
Cafe approaches
Restaurants
This training is not about collecting phone numbers, this is about having sex with
girls ASAP. no phone numbers. you dot want to DATE those girls, you just want
to use them for sex, and move on... find new one!!
you will probably takeover 10-20 girls, and you will fuck between 4-6 girls.... But
that's totally up to you.
ACCOMODATION
Its not included into price, and you will be staying in apartments by 2.
apartment cost is 200eu per person for 7 days.
Transportation
Island Pag doesn't not have an Airport.
Book your Flight to Split or Zagreb.
Once you land, you have to get to Bus station and get a bus to Island Pag ( town
Novalja)
Buses go regularly every 30min, and you don't have to buy ticket in advance.
Bus takes 4 hours to Island Pag.
Once you get there, you will call us, and we will pick you up.
Dates :
2 summer camps -
July 24 -July 31
July 31 - August 7
http://www.badboyplayers.com/secret-techniques
http://www.badboyplayers.com/dna
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