Ep. 074: Gray Wolves: Steven Rinella talks with John Oakleaf, Vicente Ordonez, and Karl Malcolm of the US Forest Service, along with Janis Putelis of the MeatEater crew.

Steven Rinella talks with John Oakleaf, Vicente Ordonez, and Karl Malcolm of the US Forest Service, along with Janis Putelis of the MeatEater crew. Subjects Discussed: Mexican gray wolves; taxonomic lumpers and splitters; historic sub-species of wolves in North America; Cormac McCarthy's The Border Trilogy; wolves and livestock depredation; the Endangered Species Act; tainted bait for trappin'; foothold traps for wolves; roadkill buffalo; how many elk do wolves kill?'; wandering wolves; a correction re: brevited and brigadier generals; and more. Check out the show notes to dig deeper into the books, studies, ideas, and stories mentioned in this episode at http://www.themeateater.com/podcasts