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Jen Hatmaker

The Texas pastor, author, homemaker and social-media star talks about faith, family and the debates that are causing schisms among Christians

In your new book, Of Mess and Moxie, you call yourself “low-grade Christian famous.” What does that look like? It’s maybe a D-minus level, enough to get recognized in airports, but not enough to really have any true advantages. The Christian world is pretty small, especially for women in leadership.

As a woman of faith, do you think there’s a way forward in the antiabortion vs. pro–abortion rights debate? It’s one that my

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